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Kitchen Upgrade

6 years ago

Tho I like the tone-on-tone light painted cabinet look, I wd like to (budget-friendly) modernize my kitchen .. keeping the light oak cabinets. I love having all the storage but they take over my kitchen. Paint color change on walls?, new pulls (wd I be able to use a bronze/gold-ish finish?) I was thinking of pulling the doors off of the (4) cabinets to the right, but I don't want it to look like an afterthought. I'm not sure I can afford new counter tops yet, so I may just regrought everything w/ a bright white. Maybe a new slab top for my island (paint the island base?) or run a fun graphic tile up the front of the island for a creative focal point. Remove the (3) support trim pieces? Idk .. Probably move microwave to inside of my island and add an above stove hood. Are the black appliances too dark to deal w? (They all work!) My refrigerator is a powder coated stainless steel. New wide plank, light colored flooring. I like a "Napa-country" style. My backyard is olive trees & vegetable boxes w/ decomposed granite, etc. I like whimsey. Go ..


Comments (35)

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    Which 4 cabinets? I do not see an over abundance of cabinets and IMO when you remove cabinet doors it always looks like you forgot to get the rest of the doors. I have no idea what powder coated stainless is IMO just plain old stainless is still the best for sinks and appliances . You could do any pulls or knobs since there are none now so no worry about size. No graphic tile on the island , I would spend the money on new counters for the whole space you can get steel supports for the island top so no corbels at all. If you do that then do not do the 4" piece on the wall and do a nice backsplash instead. I would also get some fun colored stools and forget the clock , IMO there are enough clocks in a kitchen without adding another . I have no idea about a new wall color without seeing the surrounding spaces. You could paint the island a different color but that also depends on surrounding spaces .

    patrice1050 thanked Patricia Colwell Consulting
  • 6 years ago

    Whimsical = keep the tile counters. Get them cleaned and seal the grout and you have whimsical. Leave the supports on the island = keeps the counter from breaking! There is nothing more horrifying than a friend leaning up against the countertop overhang and have it break -crashing to the floor!


    I like the idea of new wall colour (I hate mint...but that's me). I would look at painting the island an antique blue or a deep farmer green. New pulls in the bronze family with the same for the faucet/taps will go a long way. Leave the appliances (go ahead and move the microwave). They have a life span of 7 years so you might as well kill these appliances and then replace when you have one of the larger one's die on you. That's when you drop $10K on appliances that match.


    I like the look of tumbled travertine or limestone with a country chic kitchen.

    patrice1050 thanked SJ McCarthy
  • 6 years ago

    Throw a rug on the tile. See how it feels for a few weeks. If you still think it is worth the re-model then go for it.

    patrice1050 thanked Joe Macker
  • PRO
    6 years ago

    I'd replace the floor and change the paint color first.

    patrice1050 thanked Design Girl
  • 6 years ago

    Here is my wood kitchens idea book with both new and older refreshed kitchens: https://www.houzz.com/ideabooks/75202366/list/wood-kitchens


    I would definitely replace the microwave with a hood - I like decent venting and as a short person, I don't care for reaching up to the micro. Use either black or stainless - which ever you prefer. If you want to change to stainless, just do it as appliances die. I've spent many years with different color appliances:) I used grout paint on a bathroom floor and it has held up well. A countertop gets more wear, but it would be an inexpensive thing to try. I also like some whimsey - lots of ideas on the internet. I did change out a cabinet to a plate rail cabinet and changed out my hood to a wood hood with vent insert. The cabinet change was not expensive, but the hood change was - but not so bad as could have been because I did part DIY with an unfinished hood.


    https://www.houzz.com/hznb/photos/my-pics-work-in-progress-phvw-vp~109854029


    Again, as a short person I don't have a problem with reworking or removing some upper cabinets. I can barely reach the second shelf anyway. Recently I needed more storage to avoid going to the store as frequently and changed out two shelves in a close by hall closet into a pantry space. I find it easier to get stuff from there then a cabinet shelf I can't reach:) Another thought is to have the center panel in some upper cabinets removed and replaced with glass.


    You have a good layout which is helpful because even while you are thinking about changes (and saving up), you have a good space to work in. I added some DIY under cabinet lighting between my sink and range and found it very helpful. When I did get new counters and backsplash I had an electrician wire the DIY lighting to a switch. New flooring will be great. Watch the color tone works with the cabinets

    patrice1050 thanked jhmarie
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    If you ever plan to replace the cabinets, I would wait to replace the flooring. You won't want to re-do the floors again when you replace the cabinets. Why might you replace the cabinets? If they start falling apart, drawers start being difficult to open/close, doors start having issues, etc. OR, if you want more functional storage (e.g., drawers) or better cabinets.

    If you replace the floors now and later want to modify the footprint of your Kitchen cabinets, you will be limited by the fact that the flooring is not consistent throughout the space, including under the cabinets, range, refrigerator, and DW.

    Personally, I'd replace the counters before I replaced the flooring -- depending on how long to fuller remodel (if any), I would get a nice looking laminate for now and plan to replace with more expensive material during a full remodel. If you never plan to replace cabinets, maybe go with stone, if you prefer. (But, given the nature of life, I would never say never!)

    patrice1050 thanked Buehl
  • 6 years ago

    Paint walls and change hardware. Move MW and add a SS hood of ability to vent is there. Replace appliances as they die. I agree that I’d you are even considering re-working layout or changing cabinets in the next couple of years, wait for the floor. Add some runners. Make sure light (including under cabinet) is nice and white. Good luck!

    patrice1050 thanked Gcubed
  • 6 years ago

    I don't recommend putting flooring on top of your tile unless the new flooring is very, very thin. Why? Your range, DW, and refrigerator all "slide in". If the floor heights are different under the cabinets than in the rest of the Kitchen, it can cause issues if you need to move them in the future (cleaning, repairs, replace).

    While you could put the flooring inside the alcoves for the three "slide in" appliances, that won't work if an appliance is in a tight "alcove", like a DW. DWs fit b/w the counter and the floor and are sized to match the height of the base cabinets. If you add flooring in the alcove, the open part of the alcove where the DW fits is no longer the same height as the base cabinets. You will essentially trap the DW.

    patrice1050 thanked Buehl
  • 6 years ago

    Another consideration is that painting cabinets can get expensive if you have them done by a professional. If you do it yourself, be prepared for chipping paint fairly quickly.

    patrice1050 thanked Buehl
  • 6 years ago

    A darker sage green usually looks good with oak. I despise tile counters, so that would be my own priority. Then the floors. Appliances as they fail. How's your lighting under the upper cabs? If we could see more of the kitchen and especially pantry and fridge, we'd probably have more to say about it.

    patrice1050 thanked decoenthusiaste
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    patrice,,,let me comment on the micro first. you want to 'move' it to your island? then you need to buy a 'built in microwave'. The Over the Range style you have cannot be stuck in a cabinet.

    GE profile 1.5 model can be put in an island.(cost is about $650) you will need to have at least 24" of depth for clearance, 14" height and about 25 inches total width. Pretty sure that little island isn't going to accommodate that. Then you would have to buy a new vent hood and have it properly ducted. (don't even know if the micro is properly ducted). a new vent hood? 400-1K ?

    have you ever painted cabinets? they will all need to come down, marked where they go, sanded, primed, sanded again, cleaned and then painted. Are you up for doing all of that? If so, I have a great tutorial for you. But it's a ton of work. Doable, just ton of work.

    Currently that green wall color is doing you no favors. paint. a soft blue gray would look better. or a creamy white


    How much money can you spare to work with?

    can you DIY your island? you could always just paint this one to start. just do some trim work on the panels so that it has a finished look
    Heck, go to a fabricators warehouse shop and see what he's throwing away. your island is so small, you could pick up a granite (or quartz) top for it for 50 bucks.






    patrice1050 thanked Beth H. :
  • 6 years ago

    Thank you all for your input! I am ready to begin. 1. TSP cleaning of all cabinets; add new pulls & handles. 2. Paint walls a Benjamin Moore warm white. 3. Clean & regrout tile (for now). 4. Add pendant drop light over sink (remove clock). 5. Add under cabinet lighting. 6. Remove linoleum & add new wide plank light colored flooring. 7. Add farmhouse (double basin) sink & new hardware to match cabinet pulls. 8. Change a few upper cabinet panel inserts to be glass. I'm not sure what to do w/ the island just yet. Possibly an accent color. Also, I'll wait until my appliances die before replacing them (common sense). How does that sound? I'm already exhausted! I'll keep you posted!

  • 6 years ago
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    who said to clean the wood cabs w/TSP? wood absorbs water. is there a clear coat finish on that wood or is it worn down? if you have mostly bare wood, then you'll need a proper wood cleaner. Try anything for wood cabinets or wood floors.


    patrice1050 thanked Beth H. :
  • 6 years ago

    Here's the other side of the kitchen.


  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    don't use a murphys oil soap or anything w/a waxy buildup finish. you just want to clean the wood and add some natural wood oils to the finish.

    I used this on my wood cabinets. it's a cream cleaner. restores the wood finish too




    get yourself some nice hardware too


    patrice1050 thanked Beth H. :
  • 6 years ago

    Thank you Beth H. You're right. I used to use TSP before priming and painting old wood pieces. I will use a wood cleaner. I'm new here. Is there a way I can answer directly to your comments? Or do I have to post here?

  • 6 years ago

    you can message me here on houzz. click on my name, send message.

  • 6 years ago

    You will need a "short apron" farm sink if you do not plan to do extensive work on your sink base cabinet. If you want it under mount, might damage your tile counter when installed. The only over mounts I know of are the stainless Kohler Vault - comes in a short apron style and I think there is a two bowl option or the Ikea Havsen - not sure if that comes double bowl. It is made to fit Ikea cabinets so I am not sure how it would work on your present sink base cabinet. I think the Havsen is fireclay. The older Ikea farm sink which is no longer made (the fireclay Domsjo) had a lot of bad reviews here with crazing and cracking. I haven't seen reviews on the Havsen.


    I used the "short apron" Kohler Whitehaven (see my pic above and more pics in my "my pics" idea book.) It is cast iron and a bit pricy so I waited and saved up - and love it! It is an under mount sink and if that is the look (and durability) you want, it might be best to wait till you change out counters - it can wait, and will be less expensive to install if you do it when changing out counters. I do not have a farm sink in my basement kitchenette, but I curtained the sink base cabinet and that gives a whimsical / farmhouse look. There are curtain rods that are hinged or use easy slide curtain hangers so as to not lose the efficient use of the space, but in my basement I just have a regular rod. Also, curtain not great if need to keep pet or cild out of the area:)


    My basement kitchenette:

    https://www.houzz.com/hznb/photos/my-pics-work-in-progress-phvw-vp~65270573



  • 6 years ago

    OK, my house has warm colors so I've decided to paint the kitchen walls Benjamin Moore, White Dove or Swiss Coffee. The swatches look good against the cream tile I have. (Pls note I will run a cool backsplash and add new counters in time.) But, for now, I'm going to live w/ the tile. Whaddayathink? Have any of you worked w/ these two tones? Thanks! I appreciate all of your input sooo much!

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    I wrote a piece on how to update a kitchen on a budget. You might find it interesting. Remodeling tips

    patrice1050 thanked Rachiele Custom Sinks
  • 6 years ago

    Thanks, @Rachiele Custom Sinks .. I'm going to be doing most of the work alone.

  • 6 years ago

    Paint your walls and post back. I think you will note a great change immediately. And then get more suggestions and idea to file away once you've said $ and have the time. Good luck!

    patrice1050 thanked Gcubed
  • 6 years ago

    I like that idea @Gcubed. I think I will paint tomorrow. Thanks so much .. I'm getting excited. Well, not to paint, but for the change. ;) I'll touch up behind the refrigerator and stove once the new flooring goes in. I live alone and don't want to throw out my back.

  • 6 years ago

    @jhmarie You brought up so many great points about the sink. I do want a porcelain sink so I'll check your resources when I'm ready there. Thanks!

  • 6 years ago

    The quality white farm sinks are mostly fireclay or cast iron, (enamel over cast iron). I think Elkay makes a quartz short apron but not sure of the color. I think by porcelain you mean white - either fireclay or cast iron. Porcelain alone is not strong enough - one whack with a pot and it is probably a goner:) I have seen a drop in double farm sink at Menards labeled ceramic which looks very breakable.

    patrice1050 thanked jhmarie
  • 6 years ago

    @jhmarieGot it. I viewed your photo of the sink (with curtain) and I like the look of that sink. (A curtain wouldn't work here, tho.) Looks like a top mount sink? Perhaps I don't really need the farmhouse front, or whatever it's called. It may running it's trendy course. ;) I'll get to that after a paint session tomorrow.

  • 6 years ago

    When I got the new apron front sink, I put my 20+ year old drop in cast iron sink in the basement kitchenette:) I wanted a sink big enough downstairs for the kids to wash their dishes. The kitchenette was done on tight budget using a few refinished original kitchen cabinets, the old sink and stock laminate counters.


    I recently got my mom a new two bowl drop in cast iron sink for her kitchen. It was a Kohler available at Home Depot.

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    A few years ago I went with a budget single-basin Enameled steel sink (~$300) instead of apron-front. I figured I could go farmsink when we do a full renovation, if I still want it. I love my sink- I can actually wash baking sheets and large pans and it kind of gives the farmhouse feel (in my head anyway).

  • 6 years ago

    @Beth H. : I really love your island trim work and will definitely be stepping mine up w/ this. I'm going to tackle the island last as I'm not sure what color to paint .. tone-on-tone? I don't want it to be too bold as it may overtake instead of accent the room. I'm painting the walls today!

  • 6 years ago

    OK, so I painted my kitchen yesterday - two coats! - and I love it. I chose BMoore Collingwood. The color is off in this photo but it is a nice breige that I can work with. I'm searching for classic pulls & knobs now. After pricing them out individually, I was over $200. So, Amazon has brushed nickel hardware w/ great reviews for a quarter of the price. Thoughts?


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  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    nice color patrice! great choice.

    those pulls you've picked are a bit more modern looking. AND, they catch your clothing!

    Look at some of the other choices amazon carries. maybe Cosmas?


    I chose it for mine. price is comparable. Otherwise, try something a little more traditional or transitional. This is black nickel, but they have regular nickel


    this is also under Cosmas


    patrice1050 thanked Beth H. :
  • 6 years ago

    Already looks so much better and calmer!

  • 6 years ago

    @Beth H. : I think I like the brushed nickel over the bronze finishes .. they seem more timeless. And, I really like the top one you have shown. Is that on Amazon? I'll go there next and search. Thanks again for your input.

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