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Is this a print or painting?

6 years ago

I was given this free. It had a very old moving tag on it from the early 1950's.


I started to take what I thought was a water color out of a frame and now see that it is all one piece of cardboard. . So I feel sure its a print. What puzzles me are all the signatures and the Copyright date of 1905.








What is it?

Comments (5)

  • 6 years ago

    It appears to be on what is/was called artist board. The artist's name is George Howell Gay. Since right above the name it states Copywrite and the date it is a print pressed onto artist board.

  • 6 years ago

    Thank you. So does that mean that the print was produced in 1905?


    I think that I will finish taking it apart and take to be reframed.

  • 6 years ago

    Do not take it apart. Spend the money to have it professionally done probably by an art restorer not some like Michaels. They should be able to tell you how the print was melded to the backing. If they can not have any visible signs of foxing etc. repaired and have them place the board on a substrate before framing. Without knowing how it was melded removing the board could cause major damage to the picture.

    Copyright only means that they registered that print with a government Copyright office. I can not see it well enough to see if it is the US but many countries do have copyright offices. The print may have been done any time including yesterday even if the copyright protections have been expired for decades.

  • 6 years ago

    I think it appears that the print was glued to the board. Geo Howell Gay was a well known artist who did lots of watercolors of ocean scenes. But a print like you have can be replaced for about $20. I would not spend a penny on a restorer but I would take it somewhere, like Michaels and have it rematted over that board. It's nice, but not valuable, other than a decorative value.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Thanks so much!

    Since HAVE already taken the matting apart (as seen in the photos) I did plan on taking it to a locally owned framing shop...not Michael's.

    I suspected the print was not really valuable after looking up the artist. He has a lot of work out there. Most of the framed pieces I see for sale are for between $250 - $2500. Because of the condition of mine, it may not even be worth having it framed, but it is pretty.

    Any guesses on what the E P is at the bottom of the hardboard? It was actually hidden under the matting. Under the Copyright, looks like a name...appears to say by James Piangame or Piangare or Hungary???? Have no clue!

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