Generous Gardener and Olivia Austin had decent blooms in my shaded yard. My first year Lavender Veranda also has no trouble setting buds quickly under dappled light.

Lady of the Mist blooms in North facing shaded wall, but does get some late afternoon sun from west.

How will you overwinter this Rose? My best roses for shade is the climber Ghislaine de Feligonde, Ballerina and Pink Pet all with dappled shade and some sun.

You can try Desdemona...there is a recent thread on her in a planter. Mine gets some shade, intentionally, and she does well. I dont have a good picture of her plus planter, here is one I just took . She usually puts out good flushes of blooms with a brief rest period.

Another one that does well for me in a planter with some deliberate shade is sharifa asma. Both of them are fragrant.

@sbrklyn_7bny Love Olivia! I already have her in my tiny little plot that gets full sun, so I'm thinking it'll be best to keep her there. Lavender Veranda is so cute!!! I have yet to try Kordes roses.

@totoro z7b Md Lady of the Mist is gorgeous!! I haven't heard of it but it's got plenty of great reviews from what I see!!

@Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley Pink Pet looks absolutely lovely. Would you say it is fragrant? I plan to overwinter with maybe a few inches of bark nuggets on top. The zone 5 roses were buried with the graft above ground in my plot and they seemed to survive just fine (no mulch either).

@ladybug A 9a Houston area I actually have two Desdemonas that I need to pull out of the ground :( They both have Mosaic Virus. I asked forum members on how the virus affects performance and it seems like the general consensus is that it depends on the rose plant itself. My zone has long, harsh winters so I think it would be a bad idea to dig them up and put them in shade. Perhaps if I order one directly from DA I can get a Desdemona without the virus... both of mine were from Burpee.

Lavender veranda blooms really well for me under the shade of a tree. She gets afternoon sun for like 4 hours maybe

Remember everyone, Grace is up north in zone 5. This will make a big difference in her rose growing results. My best shade bloomer is a magnificent Rouge Royale, blooming in isolated splendor out on the edge of a steep slope for the last four years with shade all around and a northern exposure. Since RR is in the ground and I'm in zone 7, though way up north (same latitude as southern Maine), your RR would be smaller than mine, most likely. Its scent is gorgeous like a less lemony Evelyn. Diane

Those I recommended are tip hardy in my virtual zone5 areas. However, if kept outside the recommendation is to lower the zone further. Thanks for the comment on RR. I had not considered that, but will look at it for my Z5 hill where a monster red needs moving. My friends and I find PP has a strong wafting clove fragrance, but many don't detect this. Consider Marie Pavie or Marie Daly also.

WoW! How have you resisted? That is beautiful.

Thanks, vapor. It was easy to resist--all I had to was look down; plus, some big plants surrounded RR, except for the northern exposure where the land fell away. It was a "temporary" spot four years ago, and I never dealt with moving it to a better place. Diane

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I actually have two Desdemonas that I need to pull out of the ground :( They both have Mosaic Virus.

Perhaps if I order one directly from DA I can get a Desdemona without the virus... both of mine were from Burpee.

Grace was asking if her plan is sound, but no one responded to help her out.

I have read repeatedly from those who would know (breeders and such) that almost all Dr. Huey grafted roses are infected, including those from DA. I've read on this forum of directly-bought DA exhibiting this virus. There is really no reason to dig these out as weather conditions and plant health influence how and when it presents. I do not know if their OR roses have the virus. I suspect not if the mother plant is OR. The virus comes from Dr. Huey, but can be passed on to any cuttings. That is why it's important to know about the mother plants used for the OR cuttings. I would hope someone at DA could answer your question. There exist virus-indexed roses that have been exposed to a heat treatment that kills the virus, but I don't know if Desdemona has undergone that treatment. Some of these roses are available from UCDavis.

Heirloom roses has virus indexed their entire offering. That’s what they are all on own roots and more expensive. But you can be sure to get a mosaic-virus free rose, if that is important to you. https://www.heirloomroses.com/info/about/

@Diane Brakefield Diane your RR is absolutely stunning. How beautiful and I have never heard of it! Thank you fo your suggestion.

@Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley While it may be true that it is widespread throughout grafted roses, I still don't want to put in care for roses that might not perform at their 100%. I'd prefer to make it as easy as possible and it'll give me an excuse for another one teehee! I had to baby a Jude the Obscure with the virus and it never compared to my other without. Not even half as vigorous! My other roses that are the same age or even older are all grafted and have not shown signs of the virus so while it is widespread, I do not think all have them! They are all in the same soil and same light conditions. (tiny plot!)

@Stephanie, 9b inland SoCal Wonderful, I had no idea that they were virus indexed! That does seem to justify the higher price being both own root and virus-free.

@rifis (zone 6b-7a NJ) Thank you Rifis... I will have to think more about what to do since I have time until spring :) preorders are not far away though!

Thanks, Grace, for your comment on Rouge Royale. I wish I could recommend a place to buy this rose--I bought mine locally. As far as rose mosaic virus goes, I've said many times that I don't let it bother me, and it doesn't seem to bother the roses I grow that have the virus (three at present, I think). The first rose I got that had RMV was ordered directly from David Austin almost 16 years ago, so there's nothing virus free about DA's roses. This was an Evelyn. Another Evelyn, straight from Austin to my favorite local nursery, and purchased by me several years ago also has RMV. They are otherwise great roses. Diane

Evelyn has RMV--you'd never know it.

Playboy Rose is a lovely shade-tolerant pink-salmon-yellow rose that will grow in down to Zone 4. It is also not too big (3-4 feet) so it should fit well on a patio. If you want to go the other direction, New Dawn is a hardy shrub/climber that will put out flowers even in the shade. But we are talking about what will be an 8-12 foot plant in a couple of years with stiff canes and thorns. Would be a good planting if security was your secondary concern after appearance, and you always dreamed of living in Sleeping Beauty's castle.

I have it in my head that white hybrid musks tend to be more shade tolerant than average, though I could be mistaken. I have Moonlight thriving partly shaded under an overhanging tree, but I don't know if it will consent to grow in confined spaces--it's currently eating my garden shed.

Where do you live, M. Wilson?

Oregon, Rogue Valley. The part of Oregon that has summer drought rather than rain and clouds.

That's where our wonderful member Sheila lives, too, M. Wilson. I love your part of the country and think it's heaven on earth for roses. Diane

I can’t say enough good stuff about my Bolero and show profusely it bloomed in shade... yet it also performs just as well in full sun. This rose blows my mind in every way. I don’t have one bad thing to say about it. It’s Romantica Meilland Bolero. It grows in a perfectly round bushy shape... stays a very nice manageable size (3x3 is considered full grown for most plants)... and spends almost all of it’s energy making gorgeous blooms. And as if that’s not enough... it as an awesome cut rose to bring into the house or give as gifts... and smells like sweet tropical fruit... to me it smells like lychee fruit. It’s also very disease resistant... I never spray... and makes for a great landscaping rose... and rose to grow in a planter as it doesn’t tend to get too big. I don’t live in your zone, but I’ve heard from others across the country in different zones that grow it... and it seems to be one of those roses for people all across the country. There’s a good thread on here about it if your just google Bolero Rose and Houzz. I posted a bunch of pics and info on the thread about my love for this rose. It gives me so much, with such little fuss. I honestly don’t really do anything other than water it. I don’t even really prune it... ever. I might if I have time, dead head it... but honestly you don’t even have to do that to it. It seems to self deadhead, if you don’t have time or forget.

I should have mentioned above... my Bolero Rose bush was growing for most of its life getting one a few hours of morning sun. The rest of the day it was in open shade... and was perfectly happy to be constantly in bloom.

Ann, Bolero sounds amazing got our climate! On my wish list!