Moses, Sara Ann and Ben, I appreciate knowing Dee-Lish is good in hot weather. I will attribute mine's poor performance to being very young. That is a color I need among my very lights and very darks. This crazy Peach Swirl is putting all the others to shame with it's non-stop blooms that are huge and perfect and long lasting. I know that not all roses are good on all root stocks, and some are even better on their own roots, so I was worried I'd made a mistake getting Dee-Lish on multiflora. Every rose I've ordered from Palatine has been excellent, so far.

Moses, I daresay you are too modest. I'm not the only one here who relies on your recommendations. Your rose beds are so well thought out, like I wish mine were. My roses are also stunted and petals turning into potato chips in this unrelenting heat. Back to double digits today for some relief. I hope you have a cool place to retreat to.

Everyone, remember to stay hydrated.

I love the rose, hate the name- I put 'Sweet Parfum de Provence on the garden tag. My plant is new this season and I've only had a few blooms, but they rank near the top!

Great bloom of Dee-Lish, sara_ann! (or Sweet Parfum de Provence - agree with you there, Nick) I lost my first one to RRD but loved it - dusky pink blooms sometimes with a bit of coral, outstanding fragrance and disease resistance. I replaced it this year with one from Palatine but the blooms have been this awful hot pink - same fragrance, foliage and everything but the clone I received is not quite the same I had before. Cool weather, hot weather - it didn’t make a difference in the color. Ben, do you notice a difference in color in yours from Palatine vs the other?

Mine has changed from those pitiful small and deformed blooms to a luxurious bloom like I was expecting. It is a deep pink with the barest hint of coral. It is from Regan and the roots were cut very short. It is not the size of a normal bare root, rather very low and stubby. No clue about fragrance - it's way too low to the ground to sniff. I planted another one from Palatine that hasn't bloomed yet. I have a feeling the one from Palatine will be a better specimen because it's already a better size.

Nick, I much prefer Sweet Parfum de Provence, too.

Nick

Great minds think alike! I only call it Deelish on this forum, I really detest that dumbed-down name, what does it say about Star/Meilland’s opinion of us, their US rose growers?

Dave

Yes, the body bag and Palatine rose are identical in color, scent and foliage. A body bag that’s actually true to variety I guess I lucked out! I agree the color is a stronger pink, very much like Merlena’s , but that’s what I had wanted.

Moses - so glad I found you. You encouraged me to get. Apricot Candy. It is the perfect rose for me. I never had the chance to thank you. It’s blooming against a west facing stucco wall in our dry summer heat. so pretty.

and Dee-lish is growing and blooming in my back border too.

altho our gardening conditions are so very different I have found your recommendations so helpful.

Mrs. Teakettle,

Thank you! My only regret about Apricot Candy is that I only have one bush of it. Mine is a blooming fool, no slacking off. So far it has really not needed to be sprayed for black spot, a real issue here. The blooms have a robust beauty to my eye.

Moses

Moses -- I saw that Edmund's fall catalogue has Apricot Candy...

It has been more than 2 months since planting my 2 Dee-Lish plants. i am no longer un-impressed. I am very impressed. Above, I said in one comment they were from Palatine and in another comment I said they were from Edmunds - very different root stock - so I checked my orders and I was half right. One was from Palatine and the other from Regan. Even with two different root stocks, they are growing about the same in height and width and both blooming non-stop. These small plants literally cover themselves with huge blooms. For my climate and soil, I don't think there's a big difference in the root stock, at least in the short term. This rose would be gorgeous in multiples, lining a pathway or such.

Flowers, can you show us photos? I'm very interested in Dee-Lish. Thanks. Diane

Diane, I have only 1 photo of Dee-Lish. Both plants are only about 18" tall. They put all their energy into blooming instead of growing. They literally never stopped blooming. Both are under a blanket of snow. The blooms are large and they smell divine.

Our snow broke records. Just under 7" in one day.

Ewww on the snow, wowowow, on Dee-Lish. I love it. I'll take all those blooms on a small rose. Thanks for posting this pic, Flowers. Diane

Oh my goodness Flowers, that is a pretty darn impressive looking rose. What a lovely color !

7inches of snow, that is impressive in a whole different way.

Moses, I wish that I could see ypur rose garden, it sounds so incredibly beautiful.

I appreciate all of your stellar advice over the years

Thank you !

Flowers - beautiful!!!! Oh my!!! LOVE!!! Mine grew to about 3 feet and always had blooms...so far, I hate the fragrance...but I'm hoping for better fragrance next year. Seven inches of snow in one day!!!! That's a LOT of snow!!!!

Thanks, Diane, Kristine and Carol. I think Dee-Lish earned all those awards she got upon introduction. Carol, i don't remember exactly what the fragrance is like, but I remember it surprised me with the strength and I really liked it a lot. Kept my fact smooshed in the blooms for more.

Made myself go shopping this morning in 20˚F, and by the time it got up to 29˚, I was in a hurry to get back outside because the stores were so hot. It doesn't pay to wear a coat because I end up carrying it.

Flowers - yeah, something weird I'm doing that is changing the fragrance profile. LOL

I’m torn on this rose. I’ve almost purchased it several times. I love that it has a reported strong, sweet fragrance and that it’s a blooming machine with big, beautifully formed blooms. It’s also the nickname I have for my son (I’ve been calling him Delish since he was a baby) so the name is encouraging me to buy it too. I’m just not a huge fan of the super saturated pink colors roses. Plus I have so many roses already and 17 coming in the Spring! 😮

Mine didn’t bloom a ton in its first season, but I always looked forward to each bloom.

Laura - that's ADORABLE that you've been calling your son Dee-Lish since he was born!!! Awwwwww :) :)

Nice - that's gosh darn beautiful!!! I love the crennelated edging!

Yes, I agree Nick's Dee-Lish is gorgeous. I love certain saturated colors, and this rose has the color I like. It won't be a faded dishrag like pale pink blooms are in our desert sun.

Hi Carol. I hope you're having a good late night. Diane

Hi Diane!! Check out the seasonal thread...I finally posted a picture of myself. Heavy, over-weight...but happy! :)

So true...I love happy, bright colors!!

And, yes, I'm having a good evening. Are you? :)

Yes, Carol, but evening is long gone. It's more like earlyearly morning. My favorite time. I loved seeing your photo. I suppose I should post mine. Ack. Diane

Nice, love your photo of Dee-Lish. It's a beauty and that mid range pink is useful in the garden. I've learned that my pales come to life when I put something brighter, darker or different in the mix. I planted Dee-Lish where Princess Alexandra of Kent used to be. PAoK almost died during a late spring freeze last year. I maybe could have babied it back to health, but I wasn't in love with it. The whole plant of Dee-Lish is softer in form and bloom. PAoK was structured and stiff. I snagged myself on that rose more than any other.

Flowers, lucky that you didn't let PAoK grow back and become a monster to remove like I had to deal with. I totally agree with your description of "structured and stiff" as the PAoK growth habit; mine spread out stiffly all over the place and scared poor neighbor Munstead Wood half to death. I agree that pales do come to life when they are next to brighter or darker. Think Augusta Luise next to Twilight Zone. It works. Diane

Diane, AL next to TZ is a combination that never gets old. It is a classic here on the rose forum.
The bigger and stiffer PAoK got, I kept thinking of yours and that I should take the opportunity to say good bye while it was still doable. I don't regret it. She was next to OSO Easy Strawberry Crush, a weird combo, each overlapping the other but not in a good way. OSO Easy SC was tossed in the trash, too.

Diane, that would be great to see a picture of you!! :) :)

Yes, AL and TZ!!!

Carol, we need to see a photo of Flowers, too. I wonder if my mental image of her turns out to have a basis in reality. Like I said on the seasonal thread, Carol, you were much like my mental image of you was. I was shocked when Kristine said her image of you was a little gray haired old lady, or something similar. No way. Maybe I could post something from say, fifty years ago. Then I would lie through my teeth about my age in the photo. I hope you're feeling better. You mentioned being tired and having a sore throat. If you haven't been exposed to covid, I wouldn't worry about that.

Flowers, what was wrong with OSO Easy Strawberry Crush (other than the name being a ridiculous mouthful)? It sounds like it would be cute, or good to eat. Hmm, I have some strawberries and vanilla ice cream. What am I waiting for? Never mind. Back to roses. Do you have any Drift roses? I really like my Apricot Drifts. I think I have seven of them, and they make good filler between bigger roses. I'd like a couple more, in fact. You wouldn't believe the number of roses I've checked out on HMF; then I recheck and recheck. I want to narrow down my interests to just one rose that I like above all others, since I may only have one space to fill. I think my favorite so far is Madame Isaac Pereire, and she will be too big, I'm sure. What is your very favorite rose? I really like the looks of Eustacia Vye and Gabriel Oake. I'd take either of those. I'm thinking EV might be a better Evelyn type, which interests me. Our weather really warms up starting Thursday, and that's when I'll start with the compost. Meanwhile the fallen leaves are out of hand. It looks terrible around here. Diane

One more time...

Diane - Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! Those colors!!! SWOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!

Yes, we need to see a picture of FlowersareMusic too!! :)

Yeah, I'm not worried. Just tired.

i can't post a pic of myself because there aren't any current ones. I posted a pic of myself on another thread, and that will have to do.

Favorite rose is not easy. I know you've been interested in Soeur Emmanuelle, but she isn't the bloomer Dee-Lish is, so far. She is stately, and her blooms are classic, but not that 'look' I expected, yet. Queen of Elegance will become a favorite, I'm sure, but still so new, I haven't really gotten to know her. I think you would like Paul Bocuse, Sonia Rykiel, and Dames de Chenonceau. What draws you to Eustacia Vye and Gabriel Oake but not Mill on the Floss? Strawberry Crush got too big and i was tired of her. I'm gradually weeding out roses that I don't love to make room for new ones, or duplicates of the best old ones. I've planned to grow Apricot Drift for years. She's always in the back of my mind.

I missed your pic, flowers. What thread was it on? I don't have any good current ones, so I'll ask Jemma to take one--if she ever has a minute off. All your rose favorites are making it harder for me. Now I have to recheck them. Diane

Diane - can't wait to see your picture!! :)

Carol, Flowers cheated and showed a pic of a cute little girl in giant hat which covered her face. She claims it's her, but she looks suspiciously young for her age. Here's my slightly disguised email address if you want to send some poems. No pressure. Diane Brakefield at gmail dot com. Here's a book you might be interested in. I haven't read it, but it was highly recommended, so I may be ordering it: What It's Like to Be a Bird, by David A Sibley. It sounds very interesting. Diane

Diane - oh, I'm laughing and laughing...."suspiciously young for her age." LOL So THAT's the picture she was talking about.

Thanks for the email....you should delete it now. :)

You said you write poems too...can we do a shoot out at high noon and exhange poems?

I'm looking through Christmas cards on Etsy for our exchange!! :)

Carol, I haven't written any poems for several years, and those were funny poems about my various roses. I posted them about 2015 on the seasonal thread of that year. Diane

Whoever gets What it's Like to be a Bird should post whether or not we recommend it. It's been on my want list for a while now. Looks like a beautiful book as well as informative and fun to read.

Oh, Diane...then ignore my question about your poems in the email I sent you. :) :)

I fell asleep hours ago in my chair and just got up a few minutes ago. I looked at my email and saw that Don Peterson had sent me a zombie poem--egads! Who is this guy? Then I saw your other mailing. I'm so groggy, but I'm going to look at them. Will they scare me if I try to sleep in a little while? Haha. I'm not easily scared. I was so pooped from putting compost on my roses this afternoon--lots of 1.5 cu ft bags and five gallon buckets to heft. I'm too old and out of shape for this. We're now having weather in the 60's for the next 8 days. Today was 68F. What a change, and perfect weather for the hideous compost job. So now, on to reading your intriguing poems. Diane

Diane - falling asleep in a chair/on a couch?? Never happens to me. LOL Just all the time. Thanks for reading my poems! I really appreciate it!! The amount of work you did scares me. :)

Does anyone have a photo of their entire Dee-lish plant to share? I would love to get and overall sense of its form? Does it grow in a nice bushy, rounded form like Bolero?

Deelish is bushy but definitely more upright for me. Bolero is more as wide as it is tall. I wouldn’t say either is as relaxed as some Austins (ie Olivia Rose Austin) but Bolero’s compact height might make it seem bushier. I just pruned Deelish, so this isn’t the best pic, but hopefully others will show theirs:

Mine was planted last year, so it is not a mature bush. You can see from the picture below that Deelish has a typical hybrid tea V shape and is upright. This picture was taken 6 months after it was planted, in August 2020. The height is about 4&1/2 feet, but you may be able to appreciate from the picture that there were 2 very long canes, both at about 7 feet tall. I think this rose is going to be very tall this year. I won't be surprise that it will get to 6 - 7 feet in overall height. It has already leafing out robustly now in my SF Bay garden.

The best feature about Deelish is its fragrance. I have bad sense of smell but I can still appreciate the fragrance is divine. It is probably one of the top 3 most fragrant rose I own. I have heard that the fragrance of Deelish is used in one of well known French perfume??

It is definitely not like Bolero which is compact and round. I have 9 Bolero so I can say they are definitely very different. At least it will get much taller than Bolero. However, the bloom of Deelish is quite English style - more cabbage like.

Ooooh!!! Those blooms are sensational!!! Everything about that rose is amazing!!! Mine, however, smelled terrible last summer. I really hope mine gets a better fragrance...I want to see what all of the fuss is about. LOL Beautiful!!

Wow! The color of Delish is so pretty.

I wish that I had space for a tall beauty but alas only short and stumpy for me.

Beauty is beauty, Kristine...and your roses have that in spades! :) :)

Thank you everyone for sharing your gorgeous photos of your Dee-lish... aka... Sweet Parfum de Provence. Do you think this mystery rose photos I’m going to share is of Dee-lish??? A neighbor grows it and has no idea what it is. She can’t even remember where she bought it. Says it has a fragrance... and it used to grow in full Southern California Sun... in a pot and was a bit neglected, so stopped blooming. I advised her to nurse it back to health with a deep slow drink of water consistently and move it to a spot where it gets some relief from scorching afternoon sun. What do you think? Is it the same Rose?

One more pic of this mystery rose...

Personally, I think the color is too fluorescent to be Dee-Lish...but I'm not that good with IDs. It looks more like an Austin to me.

What I like about Dee-Lish that nobody mentioned is that it drops its petals before the blooms start to fade. This I consider a very good quality. My other roses stay with the ugly fry-and-dry petals until I deadhead them, which I obviously cannot do every day.

Can anyone recommend more roses with similar quality? I am looking for:

1. Very strong fragrance. I prefer classic rose scent to Dee-Lish's citrusy scent, but the other qualities make it a winner

2. Disease resistance. Black spot is heavy in NC

3. Good rebloom

4. Flowers drop petals instead of becoming a brown ikebana a couple of days later

5. Heat tolerant

6. Colorful. I am not a fan of many Austin roses for that matter, they are mostly the same strawberry yogurt type of color