How tall is tall? And will it share support with the rose or just be adjacent? I really like Rooguchi which isn’t a climber, but does well if grown up the center of a tall support such as an obelisk. IME it gets to about 6’ and is well suited to grow with climbing roses here. I also have Prince Charles growing with a rose, but it isn’t a terribly long bloomer. It’s covered with blooms when it is blooming, but only blooms for me for about 3 weeks. Both are group 3.

Thank you, Babs. Tall for me would be in the 10' to 14' range. I have 2 large arbors I would like to grow taller ones on with Peggy Martin and Isabella Skinner. I doubt either of these roses will reach the top of these arbors so I'm hoping the clematis will carry color to the top.

I plant clematis about a foot or so away from the rose because of the aggressive clem roots. They share the same support with the roses.

I grow Prince Charles with Jeanne Lajoie on an arbor and, as you said, his blooming period isn't as long as some, but he's very prolific. He would devour Jeanne L if I didn't keep him in bounds. She surprised me by reaching the top before the Prince.

I have two more arbors I would like to grow clems on to share space with Eden roses. I bought Betty Corning for one, but have decided she will get too big. I have Louise Rowe, but she's not tall enough.

Thank you for the Rooguchi suggestion. I would definitely like to add that one. I'm just not sure the color of his blooms could be seen from a distance.

I think you are right about clematis needing their own space. I see so many photos of clems and roses mingling, but I wonder if after a few years, it is a big tangled mess with one smothering the other, depending on which one is the aggressor. I've had success with one or two clematis together on an obelisk, or spaced a few feet between climbing roses on a picket fence, or in the case of Paul Farges, an arbor of his own. I will stick to these methods since they work. Thank you for your responses.

I really like Rooguchi which isn’t a climber, but does well if grown up the center of a tall support such as an obelisk. IME it gets to about 6’

I couldnt agree more with NHBabs. It is a great clematis but I think flowersaremusic you would be best with a climber if you want it to 'work' with a climbing rose.

I agree, rouge21. I do love Rooguchi and plan to add it one of these days, but one that wants to grab onto something and climb without my having to constantly tie it up would be easier to grow as a companion to a climbing rose. I want Rooguchi planted near a seating area or the porch where the blooms can be appreciated up close.

How about Clare de Lune and Samaritan Jo? I have them growing with different climbing rose including Eden and they are not that vigorous.

Thank you, totoro! I forgot about Samaritan Jo. I like both of these and should have picked them up while they were available at Northland. Samaritan Jo would work best since it's a later blooming one and would more likely bloom with the roses. I'm going to try to locate it before the season is over. I remember your Samaritan Jo with a white rose climber on your fence posted in the Rose Forum. I really appreciate you reminding me of these two.