why not a queen futon? it's great as a sofa, or for the kids to sit on during games, but folds down into a nice bed for guests.

there are a ton of styles, wood, colors, etc. we've had ours for 15 years now

We had one years ago and didn't love it. I can look again (but often grandparents sleep in that space - is a futon as comfortable as a regular mattress? I can only have something 68" wide though because of the width of the space and need to have a little "walk/scoot around to the backside" space

they make the mattresses in diff types now. normally they are on the firm side. but I think they have the memory foam now. Since you have a smaller space, and they only visit a few times a year, this gives you the option for a smaller sofa, but will also sleep two.

the other option is to use a memory foam topper on TOP of the futon mattress. so for the older people, it would be a bit more comfortable.

I even added a topper to the mattress (replacement a few years ago) in current sofa :). I found a sleeper (full) in the same style as my LR sofa (Crate and Barrel) that is 70x36", but not sure I want to spend that much on a sofa essentially for the kids- lol. Any futon companies you like? I don't know if we'll like the wood frames.

not off-hand. if you don't like the wood frames, they have the more modern style.

but you could also look for a pullout sleeper! Honestly, it's up to you and the style you want for the room. I figured the futon would last forever, work for kids (and if they have friends stay over) but also avail for your parents for visits.

just keep searching for the queen futons, I'm sure you'll find one you like.

I know on craiglist you could prob find a frame for sale, then just buy your own mattress. you can paint the frame if it's wood. I've painted ours.

Thanks for the ideas. I saw one full futon that converted from sofa, to lounger to bed. My boys would love to lie down/head up and play video games- LOL. But review wasn't great. I feel like I've seen pop-up trundle/day bed style seating before but can't remember well. I could splurge on the sofa similar to my LR one (we really like it) but don't want it ruined (have teens and let them eat in their flex/game room space). Trade offs!

well I've had my futon/mattress in my son's room for 15 years. same mattress. I keep it covered w/coverlet or quilt because those are easy to wash.

he's played his games, had friends stay over on it, watches tv,,,,and it's held up great. the mattress must weight 120 lbs! so it's hard to switch around (sometimes it's slouches on the frame) but overall, for a bunch of kids to hang on? I think its your best bet. any type of sofa under 1200 bucks isn't going to last long w/kids. it will get saggy and the material will be shot in 2 years.

get the futon and keep a quilt or blanket thrown over it.

You first line of defense is going to be in the arm style you choose. You need a track arm sofa or square arm so that any additional flare on the arm will not take up additional space. Pottery Barn makes a full sized (you wont get a queen in your size parameters) sleeper sofa that measures exactly 68" wide but the depth is 40". The Cameron slope arm is 67" wide X 40" deep. Price point on these start at $3100. They so frequently have sales that you can get 25% off of it if you time it correctly. Dozens of fabric options. this is the square arm.

Also this web site may be helpful

https://www.apt2b.com/collections/sleeper-sofas/Size:60-69?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6-rL_oiS6wIVg4jICh2Ixw5VEAAYASAAEgI5D_D_BwE

Thanks- will check. This one is same style as my LR sofa. It’s 70x36”. Walls are BM Van Courtlandt Blue.
But I just saw some double recliners that were 60” wide - my kids would never leave that room- 😂!! If I sacrifice the sleeper and find streamlined double recliners, hmmm.

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Maybe some modular type pieces.

https://www.pbteen.com/m/products/burnett-sectional-set/?cm_cat=Google&sku=5648964&catalogId=84&cm_ven=FreePLA&cm_pla=Furniture%20%3e%20Sofas%20%26%20Sectionals

I looked at some modular sofas but they didn't look too comfortable. I think if I sacrifice the sleeper feature, I'd go with the loveseat recliner. Will look at the futons again too.

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Full-sized convertible sleeper.

https://www.raymourflanigan.com/melody-full-sleeper-263244508.aspx?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Google_LIA_Living+Room&utm_term=&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpKPUk_KS6wIVE0mGCh3kdA9_EAQYASABEgJY7vD_BwE#Reviews

That is a nice/good size sofa from Raymour and Flanigan. I've requested fabric samples from Crate & Barrel, Burrow, and R&F. I am still considering the reclining loveseat from LaZBoy though! Would be so perfect for watching TV, gaming for my teens, naps, etc. I may order some of those fabric samples too. They have a smaller width but bigger depth.

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After some consideration, I'm wondering if a slipcover is an option? We so rarely use the pull-out mattress portion that we could remove a slipcover for those handful of times. Is it possible to slip cover when there are cushions. The cushions actually have zip-off covers, but can those be bought separate ready-made. I don't want to pay for upholstering but probably could do minor adjustments for a more perfect fit.

Are there decent looking slipcover options in this situation. Attaching the 68" sofa in question.

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I think you could do a slip cover.

or, even drape a nice quilt or coverlet over the sofa if all it's for are the kids.

Would something like this work? It has one cover for entire seating cushion even though I have 2 seat cushions.

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Is there a reason you've ruled our having it re-upholstered?

It's 15 years old and I think upholstering + material will cost more than I want to spend on something that is not super great quality - it's a Rowe sofa (that said, it has lasted this long). COVID issues and NYC prices are always quadruple every where else!

It actually has big puffy back cushions but my kids prefer them off so there's more lounging space (and I like having my pillows on it). Maybe I just need to try throughly cleaning it again and unzip the cushion covers and wash them (it's a microfiber/suede fabric). sadly, I can't remember if I've every cleaned the cushion covers (other than spot cleaning)!

Micro suede is durable you may be surprised out how well they wash up. Consider getting someone in to professionally clean the body of it.

Good to know! I think the cushions are the worst. I watched a video that suggested baking soda and vacuum and to spot clean with rubbing alcohol/sponge or damp microfiber cloth. I'll make sure and check for any cleaning labels on the sofa first. Sometimes just posting a dilemma makes you starting thinking through options. If this saves me thousands of dollars, it would be great!

I would take them off. Zip them back up and wash them on gentle/handwash cycle cold water then hang them dry. I would take a color safe (white wash cloth) and wet it in warm water ring it till damp and do a went wipe down of the whole sofa.

That is a nice sofa that you have. Definitely, lots of options. Maybe save your money. Really.

It looks pretty clean to me. But cleaning is an option. But since you have it mainly for your kids and hanging out, a slipcover could also be ideal - and easy.

Have you considered the drop cloth slipcover route? It’s a genius thing, really. You buy a fabric/canvas drop cloth or two - wash them a couple of times to soften them up - and you have what looks like a nice linen. Plus, durable and easy care. Can just zip off and wash. Or do a no sew version. Lots of tutorials online for no sew drop cloth slipcovers. Also tutorials for the sew option.

But I bet you could do a combo, if you wanted to. I don’t know what part of the City you are in, but you can check with the local dry cleaners. Most of them have some kind of tailoring service on premises, and it’s an easy job to sew up a couple of pillow covers. And then it looks like it would be super easy for you to custom fit a no sew slipcover to the body of your sofa. Easy lines to work with. Or you could just DIY no sew the whole thing. Even just more of a shabby chic style. As fitted or unfitted as you want, really.

https://town-n-country-living.com/no-sew-drop-cloth-slipcover.html

Looks nice. Love the pillows and arrangement. Pillows work well with sofa + wall color.

Drop cloth slipcover idea is fun. You can basically use same slipcover idea I outlined using any fabric you want. But with the drop cloth slipcover idea, for the cost of a couple of drop cloths, you can get the look of a nice linen, plus durable.

I took people’s advice and did a DIY no-sew slipcover. My kids like this texture better than the microfiber and it covers the stains. We rarely use the sofa bed so this is a nice temporary fix.

Found a friend to hem/sew the slipcover. Was considering getting some trim (like what is used on drapery) for the hems. Would that look good? If so, standard width? Or ideas?
I’ll add some pillows back as well.