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Thunderbolt is not thundering!!

6 years ago

I bought Thunderbolt in 2018 and last year it looked like this:



by the end of summer it had added 1 extra leaf, this is end of August so it’s getting fried from late afternoon sun. Also as you can see the ground cover was being pulled out to return to mulch this year.


here it is this morning, it has looked like this all summer.



Is this really worth saving?

debra

Comments (17)

  • 6 years ago

    Well, you’ll have to dig it up and look at the roots. Perhaps a good driveway treatment...

    tj

    djacob Z6a SE WI thanked tsugajunkie z5 SE WI ♱
  • 6 years ago

    I've had the rare Hosta do that to me and it's gone either way after digging it up and replanting it. Looked better the next year and continued to thrive or continued to decline and eventually died.

    djacob Z6a SE WI thanked pennlake
  • 6 years ago

    And BTW, upon further review, it may be planted too deep.

    tj

    djacob Z6a SE WI thanked tsugajunkie z5 SE WI ♱
  • 6 years ago

    I bought that one because I really liked the look but it did not thrive and then didn't come back the next year. It was a dud for me.

    djacob Z6a SE WI thanked frankielynnsie
  • 6 years ago

    Some of them are just duds and some just need more tlc. Fussy hostas need to be bought large, so all duds are eliminated, imho. As for worth saving.... I do try. If it goes it goes, I had some success and some failures.

    Agree on planted too deep appearance.

    djacob Z6a SE WI thanked lindalana 5b Chicago
  • 6 years ago

    too ugly to be out the front door ... dig it up.. put something else there ...


    since its out of the ground .. may as well tell us whats going on underground ... pic ...


    then pot it .. torture. it.. leave it on the driveway.. you know the drill ... lol ... whatever ...


    in my experience.. just another failed GE knockoff ... though the library says its a elegans knockoff... wonder why i think otherwise .. hmmmm


    if you have a spot out back.. may as well give it another year .. if not.. get rid of it ... lifes to short .. space to scarce ...


    the confusing thing is ... if you ever want to see glorious hard to grow GEs and clones .. you go to MN and WI ... where they grow them like weeds ... so what the deal here???? .. yeah.. im sticking with my memory ... for now...


    ken

    djacob Z6a SE WI thanked ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
  • 6 years ago

    Well, I dug it out and the crown kinda fell apart like my GE did this spring. It’s a pitiful sight:

    I put it in a pot and if it shoots another leaf, I will put it back in the ground (which is hard as a rock even tho I watered extensively yesterday).

    I have a couple of other babies I have been nursing along. Is it ever feasible to overwinter little ones in the garage? Milwaukee, Wisconsin.......

  • 6 years ago

    Btw, in terms of deepness, what is a good measure for this? Should the little hairs in the crown be visible when planting????????

    debra

  • 6 years ago

    second pic.. note.. its root growing time.. eh??? .. thats your future ...


    the hairs are just whats left of last years leaves ... like the stuff in celery ...


    garage would be fine ... but near the end ot winter.. take them outside ... i found my garage was heat accumulator .. up to two zone warmer than outside ... no wind.. ... so things might come out early.. which isnt good in our cold zone ... move them to the north side of the house in shade ... and let them come out of dormancy regularly ... lay on side to avoid rain or snow melt in the dormant pot ... turn upright when you note growth starting ...


    buried in a snow bank is ok also ... again.. an their side ...


    get them dormant.. keep them dormant ... and dont turn the media into an ice cube.. and you should be all set ...


    ken



    djacob Z6a SE WI thanked ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
  • 6 years ago

    Yes, the hairs should be visible.

    tj

    djacob Z6a SE WI thanked tsugajunkie z5 SE WI ♱
  • 6 years ago

    Even these little 4” pots are ok for overwintering???? I always think of big hostas in big pots........not babies. Well, can try unless there is a big growth spurt!

    debra

  • 6 years ago

    My experience, garage unheated, rather shed, complete failure. Reason is unknown. What works for minies and small seedlings is planting them on north side of the house real close to foundation. I usually pile up ton of leaves late fall. Even tiny ones do well. I only overwinter largish pots with good root system as separate pots. I have done big tubs with lots of small plants and cover with tarp late fall till early spring.

    djacob Z6a SE WI thanked lindalana 5b Chicago
  • 5 years ago

    one thing that struck me.. late at night.. in the dark ... i have no clue why this post popped in my head ...


    is that it is right on the driveway ... and you are in snow country ... and i wondered if snow.. and perhaps road salt gets piled right there ... and this foo foo one doesnt like that ...


    why was that space empty for this plant ... did something else fail there prior???


    ken

    djacob Z6a SE WI thanked ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Yes, if you heel it in put the pot on an angle so that snow/water does not collect on top. Just have the soil come up to the edges of the pot.

    djacob Z6a SE WI thanked peren.all Zone 5a Ontario Canada
  • 5 years ago

    Ken, Thunderbolt was up front next to the sidewalk that we shovel and maintain ice free. The city salts the road and I can’t say I have ever seen the salt jump up over the curb and onto sidewalks and lawns.....they are too cheap to waste the product........lol.........

    We use a pet friendly melt so it is not toxic to our cats or any ones dog walking by. Now, is that something problematic????? Maybe, but I think it’s more likely I thought I could squeeze it in there and it was too full of roots from the maple and also got planted too deep. I struggle with getting the hole the right size to fit the roots in but then end up putting the crown too far down. :-(

    debra

  • 5 years ago

    i used to have giant globs of salt encrusted snow gunk.. fall off the car behind the wheels... which i would then have to push onto the lawn ... and why i could only have lawn along the driveway..


    of course i had a big enough lot.. that i didnt have a need to garden there ... i also figured the strip of lawn.. was for peeps to throw open the car door.. and stumble out of the car ...


    but you didnt answer the other question .. or i missed it ... why was that space open for a new babe??? .. did something fail there before???


    perhaps this is a place you throw an old large undulata ... and set it in place by running it over with the car .. lol ...


    ken

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