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Howard has inspired me

I cut open a eureka supermarket lemon and the seeds had germinated. So used a wet paper towel in plastic sandwich bag to hold. Then I planted in 2 small pots. Cactus soil with 50% perlite added. Then I ate some seedless small mandarins (bagged supermarket named but don't remember what they were smallish but tasty) found one or two with a single seed, many had none. Germinated in paper towel same way. Now in 3 red cups under 4 ft 4 bulb light. One to 4 red to bright white LED. I think I'm about 2-1/2 weeks in so far from start. I'll be bottom watering for a while. I'm more interested if the mandarin takes.







. Who knows..... some have 2 seedling so hybrids and clones possible.

Comments (98)

  • 6 years ago

    are you saying clay is partly sterile

  • 6 years ago

    Yes

    Steve

    bklyn citrus (zone 7B) thanked poncirusguy6b452xx
  • 6 years ago

    I don't know much else in plant s and I got a tough. question can I cross an Eureka lemon wit a Gibson lemon

    bklyn citrus (zone 7B) thanked HOWARD Martin
  • 6 years ago

    Probably yes but you will need to do many flowers for many fruit. You will have to grow all the zigot seedlings to maturity and choose which one puts out desirable fruit. About 10 to 20 years in your environment.

    Steve

    bklyn citrus (zone 7B) thanked poncirusguy6b452xx
  • 6 years ago

    It won't be necessary to wait that long as Howard is putting the potted seedlings outside for gene selection of the fittest in winter.

  • 6 years ago

    that is how you select what you want is by breeding and selection. you and I. both know it is a hard task. and to bring about. mutations but with difficult conditions mutations develope and we have to sometimes do the things that facilitate the speeding up the process. By growing things in unfavorable conditions. Plants grown in this develop genetic mutations to take those conditions that is the way of nature

    bklyn citrus (zone 7B) thanked HOWARD Martin
  • 6 years ago

    Howard have you ever grown or cared for a citrus under favorable conditions? Just asking.....

  • 6 years ago

    no

  • 6 years ago

    because I am a. newbie to growing citrus

  • 6 years ago

    of any type

    bklyn citrus (zone 7B) thanked HOWARD Martin
  • 6 years ago

    Howard Does the AA highway go near you.

    Steve

    bklyn citrus (zone 7B) thanked poncirusguy6b452xx
  • 6 years ago

    not really that in green up county. Kentucky I'm further east

  • 6 years ago

    Maybe it would be a learning accomplishment to successfully grow Lemon seedlings to size as a hobby indoors/outdoors. Keep the best of the seedlings indoors as house plants and only use runts for your tests outdoors. The low height may even help them survive.

  • 6 years ago

    17 day update on seedlings






  • 6 years ago

    right now I m taking my best inside at night. and putting under a 60 lumens horticulture bulb as well with the morning and early?afternoon sun

    bklyn citrus (zone 7B) thanked HOWARD Martin
  • 6 years ago

    I'm keeping my best seedings inside at night under a plant bulb

    bklyn citrus (zone 7B) thanked HOWARD Martin
  • 6 years ago
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    Its very strange to hear Howard talking big on how he can grow things in clay soil and will be breeding lemons that can grow in zone 6b. But at the same openly admitting that he knows next to nothing about citrus and zero experience in growing them in perfect conditions. How can you even pretend that you idea will work?? Many of us here openly struggle growing the exotic plants in perfect conditions.

    Poncirus has been grown in zone 6 for hundreds of years but you'd think someone would've been growing them in zone 4 or 5 if your reasoning is right. But its not.

    How do you really think you can breed lemons to be cold hardy with no ressources, only 9 plants and no real plan? Also, you keep posting upside down pictures of yourself, whats that about?

    bklyn citrus (zone 7B) thanked Kevin -zone 4b
  • 6 years ago

    sorry about the upside down picture but my selection is going to be slow but I'm focused

  • 6 years ago

    and determined I'm a newbie and my citrus knowledge is very low from lack of experience clay is the only soil I know how to grow things in

  • 6 years ago

    I'm just being honest

  • 6 years ago

    and I'm just getting started my trees are too young to produce right now they just seedings

  • 6 years ago
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    Howard do you have any plans for another type mix that I would send you or are you sticking with the one you use?

    Just want to make sure I don't send it for nothing)

    bklyn citrus (zone 7B) thanked Meyermike(Zone 6a Ma.)
  • 6 years ago

    and now I'm using decaying leaves with no clay just to speed up the growth

  • 6 years ago

    clay is all I know and I have no plans for another type of mix maybe add some coffee grounds

  • 6 years ago

    and it will keep some pathogens at bay and insects hate it

  • 6 years ago

    Howard, I wish you wouldn’t clutter up this forum with your garbage position on citrus.

    Your approach is kind of silly. We are here to help anybody, something you don’t seem to understand.

    bklyn citrus (zone 7B) thanked Monyet
  • 6 years ago

    Howard, everything you say makes zero sense. You've been on this forum for months, surely you kust've retained some information? It doesen't have to be costly, clay is a terrible soil medium.




    Also please don't give advice to other people, they'll end up causing more harm than

    bklyn citrus (zone 7B) thanked Kevin -zone 4b
  • 6 years ago

    clay is all I know

  • 6 years ago

    and I will be the first to admit I'm no expert just trying to help

    bklyn citrus (zone 7B) thanked HOWARD Martin
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Howard, never mind. No worries here. Sometimes I wonder if you are not here to learn or to be open minded, but just to let us know what you are up too and hang out and that's fine. Gives you an opportunity to get to know us.

    I had a feeling when you were not going to try a different mix when you didn't take a second to thank me and and say that you look forward to trying it. Glad I saved my postage and money. Thanks for being honest about it. Use what you are comfortable with and if you fail or succeed, you will know what to do then. As long as you enjoy your hobby.

    bklyn citrus (zone 7B) thanked Meyermike(Zone 6a Ma.)
  • 6 years ago

    I grew up with using clay soil maybe not the type here

  • 6 years ago

    but I will be th first to admit I'm no expert

  • 6 years ago

    lm trying to learn so I know some I dea what I'm doing and I noticed after I put half a teaspoon of bleach in my fertilizer my seedings are starting to send out roots better

  • 6 years ago
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    BLEACH?????

    MY dad use to use that to kill weeds in Puerto Rico and I yelled at him because too cheap to buy a product and he was killing the Coque frogs by accident. I'm shocked

    bklyn citrus (zone 7B) thanked Meyermike(Zone 6a Ma.)
  • 6 years ago

    and th amount I using with my fertilizer is 1/2 of a teaspoon and my trees are responding well

  • 6 years ago

    The only good thing about your clay soil and decaying leaf material was it had beneficial bacteria's in it. By adding bleach you just killed those bacteria's.

    bklyn citrus (zone 7B) thanked Ken B Zone 7
  • 6 years ago

    and the decaying leaves are in a different pot and it all decaying leaves and they in that pot and the leaves are much looser than the clay that is what they all in now

  • 6 years ago

    sm amounts of bleach is beneficial the seedlings weren't getting enough chlorine

    bklyn citrus (zone 7B) thanked HOWARD Martin
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Howard, I never heard of using bleach to water with. Interesting. Ken made a great point. Not sure if you understood what he said?





  • 6 years ago

    I have never applied bleach directly or indirectly to a plant, nor heard that recommendation.....ever. I have used watered down bleach spray to wash algae and dirt out of empty pots for storage, and to fill up a pail also diluted to pour over/wash my brick pathways in my garden to help hold down weeds. The solutions I use are so weak I usually end up bending and hand weeding anyway. I sincerely believe the purported addition of bleach to fertilizer (what fertilizer are you using) isn't benefitting one lick, and a half teaspoon of straight bleach to a seedling pot is quite a bit.

  • 6 years ago

    I added it too my fertilizer a small amount amount of bleach is beneficial for citrus especially if they not getting enough chlorine I checked this out first after I added the bleach my citrus seedings started putting out roots faster it in a 32 ounce spray, bottle with my fertilizer the brand of bleach is clorox my fertilizer

  • 6 years ago

    is the blue stuff in the spray bottle

  • 6 years ago

    Very interesting. Keep us posted Howard Hopefully they will be ok

  • 6 years ago

    I checked things out first

  • 6 years ago

    Howard how would you know that your 1" high seedlings are putting roots out faster after adding bleach?

  • 6 years ago

    I checked the roots and it started getting a new bud for leaves

  • 6 years ago

    but I'm not going to use any higher amount

  • 6 years ago


    Lemon seedlings coming

  • 6 years ago


    Clementine seedlings appear a tad more vigorous

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