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Antique roses in Fall

5 years ago

Well, it is Nov, and has gotten cold and cloudy here, although we STILL have had no rain since last Spring (maybe later this week, they say). Here is a corner of our side garden where the mostly tea roses are blooming - I took these this morning (finally got my new Apple "Photos" app to work). It is so nice to have blooming roses when it is cold. The pink rose in the back is Le Vesuve, the goldish one on the left is Lady Roberts. The pink one in the foreground is Mme Berkeley (in commerce as). I have two bushes of MB, and find that I like it more and more as it matures - it gets rounder, and the blooms get bigger and nicer somehow. Almost hidden in the middle of the other bushes is Awakening (1935 sport of New Dawn - not a tea). The second pic below is a close up of a bloom of Awakening. Interestingly, in the summertime it is a full medium pink, but in shade, and now, it's color is much more towards buff. This bush is a rooted cutting of a really old one which is still growing in our garden - inside of a Japanese quince. The Awakening which is the original one (could have been planted in the 30s, from where it is in the garden, and then the quince bush ate it). also blooms a very light buff color, although the buds are pink.







Jackie

Comments (17)

  • 5 years ago

    I really hope for rain for all of us, Jackie. Your roses are beautiful. My Teas are still going here, as are the HMusks and DA roses.

    Madame Antoine Mari
    Jesse Hildreth
    Anna Olivier




  • 5 years ago

    So pretty! It was 80 degrees here yesterday so things are still trucking along but I'm not sure if all of the buds that have set will be able to bloom. I'm especially hoping it will stay warm enough to see setina in full bloom again. We've had a lot of rain and that seems to have helped everything since I'm such a lazy waterer. At least it's giving time for my cuttings to grow big. Jackie, I'm fascinated by your Awakening as it looks so different to mine. Sometimes my new dawn is as full as my Awakening. They are in two different places in the garden so I can't really compare them. I love the color of yours.

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    My Awakening looks nothing like Jackie's either.

  • 5 years ago

    Oh pretty! Thank you for that first picture especially as you gave me a brilliant idea. Well I think it's your brilliant idea! LOL! Mine is in a poor spot where it would be beautiful were it sunnier oh, but as it is not I will have to find something else that is climbing to go on the balustrade down the staircase. I'm now thinking I can move it to my problematic Hill where I am always looking for large bushes. That looks fantastic grown that way and this area gets more sun and has much better drainage so I think that's what I'll do come spring! I've been racking my brains trying to think where I should move Awakening. Now I know! I can clear out that area of my brain! :-)

  • 5 years ago

    Does yours look like mine, Vapor?

  • 5 years ago

    Sheila and Vapor - my Awakening looks just like Sheila's in the Spring and Summer (including the buds - same color, shape, etc.) when it is getting a lot of direct sun. However, it has been very cloudy here, and when it gets shade, the mature blooms fade to a more buff color. The old one inside of the quince bush gets way more shade, and so it does that more. Here is a pic I took of the original one - see the two blooms (and the quince flower in the background!). The Awakening buds on both of my plants are light pink, then the blooms open light pink, but if there is a lot of shade they eventually fade to partway or all the way to buff. When I rooted a cutting of the old old one, I expected it to do that all of the time, but most of the year it stays light pink.


    Jackie




  • 5 years ago

    I really like that buff color! My looks just like your Sheila.

  • 5 years ago

    So interesting, Jackie.

  • 5 years ago

    I don't know if it has anything to do with my bushes being only 1 (or 0! ) away from a bush which was probably planted when this sport of New Dawn had just been discovered - perhaps when it was cloned lots of times since then, there was some selection to a clone which had "stable color", which seems to have been a goal in the mid 20th century. Vapor - I actually prefer the buff color, and get happy every time it shows up. (Not happy enough to try and grow A in the shade, however). When I first rooted my old old one and planted it in more sun, I was actually disappointed not to see the buff color, but the pale pink I was familiar with from new Dawn.

    Jackie

  • 5 years ago

    It's our spring heading into our summer here in Australia, so hope you don't mind me putting this photo of Charles de Mills on anyway.

    ...The early blooms are always more pink, and it hasn't developed its purple/crimson tones yet.

  • 5 years ago

    antipodeanro - no problem - the more roses the better!


    Here is a pic of 'Cramoisi Superior' I took about a week ago - I have two plants of it, and it re-blooms over and over for about 11 months each year. No spraying, and even no pruning necessary - it is just happy all of the time.


    Jackie




  • 5 years ago

    I love Le Vesuve. Every photo of her is always gorgeous. I wonder if it would do well here?

    Sheila, your Jesse Hildreth has gotton so big! Wow what a stunner! How old is it now?

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    Reine des violettes.


    The cage around the bottom is to stop the wallabies eating her....I will plant lavender in front of it hide it...eventually.

  • 5 years ago

    Sultry_jasmine - Your location is much more humid than mine, so I don't know if LV would like it there, although you are certainly warm enough for LV, which is supposed to be either a tea or a china rose. We had an old one which lived (through 4 generations of gardeners in one family) for over 100 years, so it is very long lived when it is happy with its location.


    So, I would look for LOCAL advice about LV, and then if it sounds OK plant it in full sun, and see what happens. It makes a nice bush even when it is small and still growing. When mature, it gets to about 8' x 8' x 8' here, so give it some space.


    Jackie

  • 5 years ago

    Gorgeous plants, Jackie and Sheila! Thanks for sharing your gardens with us. My roses aren't much to look at right now. We have had some cold nights recently in Seattle, so I think they got the message to slow down. Jackie, I hope you are getting some rain by now! If I could send some of ours down there, I certainly would!


  • 5 years ago

    Thanks - actually, last week we got a bit of rain, for literally the first time since last Spring! It rained again yesterday and today. Still just gentle rain, but that is good because the ground can absorb it. The middle of Nov is late for our first rains, but we will take anything at this point. So glad to turn off the irrigation system, and I can tell that the entire garden is celebrating!


    Jackie