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Blue star creeper taking over lavender

5 years ago

I've had lavender and blue star creeper growing in the same bed for 3+ years now. The blue star creeper has completely carpeted the bed now (which I wanted), but I noticed it's vigorous growth has taken over the base of my English lavender and the lavender seems to be suffering. Does anyone have ideas for keeping the blue star creeper contained around the lavender?

Comments (23)

  • 5 years ago

    Just cut it out and remove. Once removed, you might decide to mulch around the lavender with grit or gravel or another substance that would deflect the groundcover creepage.

  • 5 years ago

    That's a great idea! I know lavender loves a gritty soil anyway. Thank you.

  • 5 years ago

    when i had the same problem with vinca... it was a heavy duty kitchen scissor thing ... with a claw rake.. to pull out that which rooted in.. to close to the other plant ... so i could gently pull out the roots and runners ...


    god help you.. lol.. if you want more.. but that is what all the rooted in cuttings would be ... if you wish to encourage it further ...


    im not sure light mulching with rock would slow down an aggressive spreader ... but if gal suggests such .. you could give it a try ...


    you dont say how big the bed is ... but for it to cover it in 3 years or so ... means to me.. its rather aggressive.. this might just be the beginning of a problem .. or maybe not.. its for you to find out ...


    ken

  • 5 years ago


    Here's a picture of the bed. It doesn't connect to anything else, so it's contained.

  • 5 years ago

    From the looks of that bed, pulling some of it out will will make little difference. It will just fill right back in. Maybe you should move the OTHER plants in the bed to a new location.

  • 5 years ago

    It looks great. I’d move the lavender. I don’t think they’re well placed in a bed that obviously suits hostas. I reckon they’re suffering from lack of light, not the blue star. You can see the flower stems reaching forwards to the sun.

    Sarah Mickelson thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago



    Yes, some areas of this bed suffers in the light department. I've thought about removing the lavender, even though I love them. Would be open to suggestions of a replacement plant. I'm including a better photo of the bed.

  • 5 years ago
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    You could still have lavender but put it somewhere sunny. Your picture shows a shady bed which would suit many different plants, just not lavender. I like the cool green, white, pale blue effect with the tree trunks. I wouldn’t put in a single new plant. Imo it would look more harmonious with multiples. A couple more hostas wouldn't hurt. Or maybe Brunnera Jack Frost or similar.

    Sarah Mickelson thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 5 years ago

    What a lovely bed! I agree with floral - I wouldn't add much unless it was another hosta. The Jack Frost is a good suggestion too, to keep in with the color scheme. And I too was surprised to see hostas in this bed when you were discussing lavender! Not that it can't work, I suppose. I had a friend who successfully grew roses and hostas side by side. Never worked for me. :)

    If you have a sunnier spot to move the lavender, I would do so. If you have nowhere else, I think you could just periodically pull back the creeper. Although I do think the lavender may be suffering due to lack of sun, or perhaps too rich or moist of a soil, rather than because of the creeper.

    Good luck!
    :)
    Dee

    Sarah Mickelson thanked diggerdee zone 6 CT
  • 5 years ago

    I think the creeper and the two white flowered plants at the back look great. I'd remove the hosta or move them to the back near the tree and let the creeper have the rest of the bed. It's beautiful.

  • 5 years ago

    I currently have four English lavender in this bed. If you look at the far left of my last picture, you can see the one is thriving. The other three English lavender are newer. I had originally had 3 French lavender here and they got too big for the spot. This bed is unique, because the Japanese Maple provides shade, hence the hostas, but the border of the bed gets a good amount of sun. Albeit, the lavender probably could use more sun in certain areas of this bed. I'll look up Jack Frost, I've never heard of it. I would love something with a similar feel/color of the lavender. I love how the silver and purple tips of lavender plays in this bed. Personally, knowing the bed, I feel if I remove the lavender, I would need to replace it with something. Someone mentioned the soil and this bed is really rich (which I know lavender prefers a more gritty soil).

  • 5 years ago

    Yes, the color is fine but they look kind of isolated and would, to my eye, look better nearer the white flowered plants.

  • 5 years ago
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    That’s why I suggested more hostas or something similar. I think ferns would look good too. The white flowered plants are hydrangeas which, depending on the cultivar, might get much bigger. I’m trying to think of something which would have the effect of the lavender but which doesn‘t mind shade. Nothing coming at the moment, although the Brunnera would have blue flower spikes.

    Sarah Mickelson thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 5 years ago

    Hi! I checked out the Jack Frost, it's really lovely and I like the purple flowers it produces, which could give a similar look to the lavender. I thought about ferns too, they're a favorite, but I'd love something with a purple flower. I looked up some options and Bugleherb came up as a shade tolerant option (similar feel to lavender). I just want to make sure whatever I get isn't too tall/wide. The bed has a slight slope. There are white Wedding Gown Hydrangeas in the back, Patriot Hostas in front of them, and currently the lavender at the border. I'm attaching another pic, the lighting is blown out a bit due to the sun. You can just see the lavender if you look closely. Note my one hosta on the far left (there are four) came in a bit stunted this year for some reason.


  • 5 years ago

    Yes, either clustering the hostas present, or adding more would make the bed look more coherent.

  • 5 years ago

    Bugle, Ajuga reptans, is a low creeping ground cover plant with a similar habit to the Blue Star. It isn’t comparable to lavender other than belonging to the same botanical family. As to flowers the hostas might produce lilac spikes.

    Sarah Mickelson thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 5 years ago

    Hi, yes, after looking up the Bugle plant I realized it wouldn't work. My hostas do produce purple flowers. I'm leaning towards Jack Frost. Maybe even some purple hostas.

  • 5 years ago

    One thing that might do well there is lobelia siphilitica. The problem is, it might do well there, lol. Too well. This is a lovely plant IMO but I do find myself ripping it out in spots each season, so it would probably just leave you with the same issue as the creeper.

    I wouldn't call it invasive, or really, even aggressive, but it does spread more than I wish it would (I wish my lobelia cardinalis would spread the same way!). I believe it spreads by seed, so if you are more vigilant than I am in deadheading it might work for you. Mine is also in a very wet garden, so it may not be as vigorous in a drier spot. Just do your research if you like it - as with any plant that you might decide to use.

    :)
    Dee

    Sarah Mickelson thanked diggerdee zone 6 CT
  • 5 years ago

    Thank you! I look into it!

  • 5 years ago

    How about Jacob’s Ladder as a replacement for the lavender? It does well in shade, though the bloom is very early and short-lived.

    Sarah Mickelson thanked docmom_gw
  • 5 years ago

    That’s a thought. A cream variegated one would echo the theme even when not in flower.

    Sarah Mickelson thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 5 years ago

    I will have to look into that. Thanks for the recommendation!