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Tea Clipper / Port Sunlight

5 years ago

Anyone grow these Austins? I read about both their blooms being beautiful, but can't find much info on their health/rebloom. They look nice, but not sure they're worth giving a shot if they haven't been discussed much on forums. I wanted to try Tamora, but I think she'll be a bit small for this spot. Thinking these might be good alternatives based on pictures alone. Any growers?

Comments (23)

  • 5 years ago

    What is that pretty pink rose in front of her, if I may ask?

  • 5 years ago

    I love the colors but have read both are stingy bloomers so havent tried them. Would love to hear any comments about that........

  • 5 years ago

    @Tammy (Southern Ont) Zone 4/5 USDA Tammy, thanks so much for your beautiful pics and info on PS. I love her colorations and that picture of your roses from afar looks great. I like the contrast of that rich, deep red in the back with the yellow/oranges and then pink up front. Cute poodle in your picture too! They're great dogs.

  • 5 years ago

    Monarda....the pink rose is Pomponella. She is fabulous in my garden! Always that last one in bloom too before the snow comes and extremely floriferous.








    B- Thank you! Poodles sure are great dogs!


    Bc _zone10b thanked Tammy (Southern Ont) Zone 4/5 USDA
  • 5 years ago

    Beautiful autumnal color.

  • 5 years ago

    @Tammy (Southern Ont) Zone 4/5 USDA That is a beautiful looking flower cluster. I'll have to look up Pomponella, I love the bold color. Poodles are the best :)

  • 5 years ago

    I have/had both Tea Clipper and Port Sunlight. Tea Clipper had some large flowers, but they went from a tolerable apricot to a rather ugly dirty dishwater color. In several years it never would repeat bloom. I finally got rid of it. My Port Sunlight has had some rather small flowers in a beautiful, glowing apricot color that had some nice fragrance to them, but it has not bloomed in the past 2 years I think. It does not take our late freezes at all. It is too bad because this one is pretty, but I had hoped it would at least have larger flowers than what it has had. I may have to get rid of it also, which is a pity. I am sure it has some climate somewhere it likes, just not here.

    Bc _zone10b thanked the_bustopher z6 MO
  • 5 years ago

    I wish I could comment with information for you, B, but I don't grow either of these roses. However, I have to join in the praise of the stunning Pomponella, Tammy. Every time I see this photo, I run to HMF for another look up. The color...the cup shape...sigh. Lisa also grows P, I believe, and hers has made me do the look up thing, too. Tammy, how large are the blooms on Pomponlla? Diane

  • 5 years ago

    Diane,


    I have a photo of Pomponella in comparison to my hand/arm.

    Probably the best way to illustrate the size of the blooms.




    Bc _zone10b thanked Tammy (Southern Ont) Zone 4/5 USDA
  • 5 years ago

    Thanks, Tammy. Your rose's blooms look bigger than the HMF size estimate states, 2 inches or so, I think it was. Your rose is gorgeous. Diane

  • 5 years ago

    I just checked, and the HMF size of the bloom is even smaller then I thought. They say 1.5 inches--no way. Aren't the blooms on your rose about 3 inches wide? Sorry for all the questions--I like bigger blooms. Diane

  • 5 years ago
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    My snowy garden at the moment is giving me brain freeze! hahaha



    But, yes...I'd say Pomponella blooms are definitely about three inches wide.

    I mean, they're not ginormous, but they're way bigger than something like drift or carpet roses.

    They don't stand out as "small" to me at all. They fit into homemade bouquets perfectly.

    For example, here they are with some other garden roses, snapdragons, cosmos, zinnias etc.



    Bc _zone10b thanked Tammy (Southern Ont) Zone 4/5 USDA
  • 5 years ago

    Wow! Tammy, What a beautiful bouquet!

  • 5 years ago

    Thanks, Tammy. What a stunning bouquet--you certainly know the art of flower arranging. Diane

  • 5 years ago

    @the_bustopher z6 MO - Thanks for the info! I keep reading about the rebloom issues which is a bummer since the flowers look so nice on both of the plants. I think I'll hold off on them for now. Have you tried Bathsheba? It seems to have similar orange/yellow apricot colors and does well for me so far here.


    @Tammy (Southern Ont) Zone 4/5 USDA Tammy I love that bouquet you made. So beautiful with the yellow rose at the bottom and other flowers mixed in. What are those pretty white flowers you put with the roses. Kind of smaller flowers that look almost like frilly poppies?


    Your snow covered garden is beautiful. I love when we get a good snowfall and everything is covered like that, it's so beautiful and calming.

  • 5 years ago
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    Too funny. That bouquet was just me running around the garden picking anything still blooming before the frost and snow came. It's just a jumble of blooms that were hanging in there until the very end.

    The white ones are cosmos. They're a variety called double click snow-puff. Super charming.

    Bc _zone10b thanked Tammy (Southern Ont) Zone 4/5 USDA
  • 5 years ago

    Tammy, I love the snow scene, too, and I am supremely jealous of your Double Click Cosmos. I've tried to grow this type several, only to have the many quail around eat the seed up. What a waste of money, and cosmos used to grow so easily in my garden before the quail multiplied like rabbits. Diane

  • 5 years ago

    Those naughty quail!


    Have you tried starting them indoors? I start most of my annuals indoors so I can have blooms earlier. Our season is already too short. You could transplant them as small plants and hopefully the quail will leave them alone.

  • 5 years ago

    I've sworn off starting anything indoors for lack of a decent space, though I did start many things indoors years ago. I no longer have my light set up. You are tempting me with the suggestion, though. I'd have to transplant fairly large plants because the quail like seedlings, too. Diane

  • 5 years ago
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    I adore thoseCosmos!


    Speaking of starting seeds..that reminds me,
    its time to start tomatoes and peppers in my neck of the woods. Some people wait till January but many do it in Dec. Tomatoes grow fast. Peppers are much slower.

    I went on a tomato & pepper seed tangent last summer and got all kinds of crazy tomato seeds including some from Wild Boar Farms. I can't wait to grow those!

    I have a couple cheap black metal shelves that have the adjustible shelves. I use regular shoplights on little chains so I can adjust them. I use heat mats to get some things started. The shelves go outside on the back patio in the spring, to put other potted plants on.


    I wish I had enough greenhouse space to start seedlings in there but its packed as it is.


    I love Diane's naughty quail. They are so cute. I'm sure I'd be mad if the were digging my seedlings though.

  • 5 years ago

    Interesting about quail. I have to look up those cosmos Tammy. They're prettier than the ones I grew from seed here. It's funny, after I planted way too many wildflower seeds last year, there are cosmos and random repeats everywhere and my bird population skyrocketed. I didn't even think there would be so many birds for coming for seeds. The cosmos spread the most and now I have lots of quail and mourning doves scurrying around which I had never seen here before.


    Sultry, interesting about the heat mats. I used them in an experiment to grow my succulents hydroponically, and the plants were so happy and healthy. Has anyone ever used heating mats to root rose cuttings?

  • 5 years ago

    I don't know yet, but both of them are on their way here to me this spring from DAR.

    I selected them for their "nautical" names- along with Fighting Temeraire too.

    My grandparents have always had a thing for big water and the things that accompany it, so I thought it would be a nice little tribute and memorial to them (still have Grandpa god bless him)!


    Steven