You should check with your local rose society re which roses grow well in your area. I can tell you that Madame Alfred Carriere, which HMF says is cold hardy to zone 6, does exactly what you are talking about here in my zone 9 garden. I have two of them, both climbing into tall trees. One of them had to grow up in a space about 12 inches wide between our garage and the neighbor's 7 ft tall fence - basically in deep deep shade. Nonetheless, it sent long canes up until they got some light, then it ate the top of our garage, and then jumped to the fir tree on the neighbor's side of the fence, and grew another 25 feet up it.

The other one we have grew up a volunteer plum tree in a wild part of our old garden, surrounded by lots of mature trees and large bushes. It made it to the top of the trees where the sun is, and blooms heavily in the Spring, scattered all Summer, and blooms well again in the Fall. Also it is fragrant. Neither of them get any care except one handful of Osomocote once a year, and some water during our normal 6-7 month drought in the Summer.

However, I have no idea what it would do in your climate - hopefully someone will see this from your area and let you know.

Jackie

'Kiftsgate' should work. I grew 'The Garland' in a former garden and it did exactly what you intend. A big, robust rose!

Might want to take a look at Ceski Praci Cest and Baltimore Belle.

Thank you so much everyone! I will look into all of these. Has anyone had any experience with the Everblooming cl. Cecile Brunner? is it very vigorous in zone 7?

I have everblooming cl Cecile Brunner here z 8 and it is bush size. MAC is much larger here.

Big ramblers don't really repeat I have tried a few. I just started planning roses for a tree lined driveway. I picked out Darlow's Enigma so far to climb on those monster tree trunks, it repeats pretty fast in shade and it has light fragrance. How big is your tree? How much room do you have around the base of your tree and garage? A pic of the place would be helpful.

Hi summersrhythm, here are some photos of the location (I believe Sheila you had seen this in a previous post asking for assistance!). DE is beautiful but Ive read it only gets to 8 ft? The tree is massive in the back garden as pictured. We sadly had to cut it down this summer as it reached the end of its life span, but i have some obliging wisteria heading towards its direction already. MAC sounds like a pretty good option and i just love that pale pink color. Once the canes go shoot up even 5 feet they should reach full sun. The issue is that the root system of this giant norway maple mirrors the width of the branches ie absolutely no planting in a ten feet radius, giving the potential rose more of a journey.

The garage in question is not pictured, but the light situation would be less obliging with late afternoon sun that gets really abusive here in the summer.

I have 40 different varieties of roses going into the garden so I am ok with a once bloomer if its guaranteed to be an epic, monstrous display!

I am just wondering if you could plant two ramblers there, one repeater for the trunk and one once bloomer for the tree top. Here are the tree trunks I am planning for DE to cover. DE can climb 12'+ in zone 6a. It's short for your tree top though.

Darlow's Enigma is a great bush here, maybe 8 ft, but not really a climber. MAC is great and much larger. Alberic Barbier is a great rambler here that is really a climber. Alexandre Girault is another of this type that could really climb.

My DE has never gotten more than 5 or 6' and tall and wide, and has a pretty fountain shape. With that being said, it is near a black walnut which might have an influence on its size.

What about Crimson Rambler, Excelsa or something like that. Not sure what colors you're into?

Here is a pic of DE on my north facing wall, it could climb more but I have been cutting it down.

Wow, DE looks incredible... I am lucky to have several spots that can take some very large climbers so I will put that on my list. Crimson rambler is very pretty but I think it may be too orange for the area (next to a sprawling dr. huey inherited with the house). I am thinking more pastels, pinks, creams, apricots are all great.

Alexandre Girault is incredible! More vibrant than what I was envisioning, but maybe thats a good thing. I am posting my painfully embarrassing mock up (looks like a 3 year old drew it) of the back garden to get an idea of the other nearby roses.

I have 3 shade-tolerant house eater rambler/climber: New Dawn, Madame Alfred Carriere, and Veilchenblau. They're all vigorous and the bloomings are awesome. New Dawn's silver pink flowers look like jewelry shining in the air, yet she is a monster with vicious prickles and bites me very often while pruning. MAC is the least healthy one in my humid climate, but her flowers are so fragrant that I want to keep her forever. Veilchenblau is my favorite though it's once blooming. I grow mine against the north-facing wall, but it doesn't care and just gives me tons of blue-ish flowers in spring. Bees are crazy about it.

Wow holly, that is so stunning!!!!! May I ask what zone you are in?

Thanks Feiy, i have one new dawn that i planted last year but no blooms yet, looking forward to it! MAC is on my list but bs is a problem here. What zone are you? Veilchenblau is insanely gorgeous but i am worried about the color being too much, but you've made me re-think that!

Hi Westminster_7NYC ... I think my area is zone 8a ... pacific west coast near Vancouver BC.

I'm in Seattle area. z8b.

Veilchenblau is indeed stupendous; very few thorns, too.

Here in Tuscany, Italy, the main problem with once-blooming ramblers is that the ones that start blooming in June often don't last long-as beautiful as Paul's Himalayan Musk is, the flowers only last a week or so; the heat sets in and that shortens the bloom season. Now, your climate is different, so it may be less of a problem, but I at least look for ramblers that start early and have a long bloom time. I'm very happy with Hiawatha; even in my hot climate, this rose stays in bloom a long time https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.241643. Another goodie is Scarman's Himalayan Musk-not quite as beautiful, perhaps , as P'H- Musk, but the flowers start early and last.And another one you might want to consider : Massad's Cepcor https://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.60495&tab=36. I have this rose, and it is not a rampant grower like a traditional rambler, but it is supposed to get to be 6 meters tall, and it does re-bloom ...

I can vouch for Veilchenblau being a stellar, healthy and vigorous rose. The color goes more towards a greyish purple, which is really lovely. David Austin has several ramblers available; Malvern Hills, Snow Goose, etc, although I've never grown them. There's also Mel's Heritage which everybody loves. It's one of my favorites.

-Chris

Here is my climbing Cecile Bruner at my old house. It grew in partial shade facing east. It was def a house eater. It only bloomed once but not to be a grinch I only had thousands of rose petals to pick up once a year. I missed it so much I bought another one last year from Heirloom the everblooming one. It has grown a couple of 12 foot plus canes going over a gazebo. I know. This isn’t the most imaginative rose to grow but I love her. tough, healthy and beautiful.

Oh wow I think I've made up my mind to go with Cecile for the garage! Mrs Teakettle thats gorgeous! Thanks Chris, I actually have malvern arriving bareroot this spring for the side of the house. The head garden at DA posted some incredible images of it on his instagram and i had to get it!

Bart bart, I LOVE Hiawatha! Thanks for turning me on to a new rose!

Anyone mind sharing pictures of their Veilchenblau?

I have 6 planted at the base of cedar trees.

They came from High Country Roses as bands less than 2 years ago.

One is doing really well and the others are slow.

I have a baby V from HCR too.

Wow Sheila, that is incredible. You may have converted me to liking purples!

Apologize for all the construction mess. This was my one year old Veilchenblau blooming this May. It's from Northland as a band plant.

I'd take a picture of mine but it's defoliated, ha.

I have its long canes fixed to the tree trunks so they are wrapped around.

I'm hoping it puts out a lot of new growth before it blooms in the spring.

Here's my Veilchenblau. Very healthy and vigorous. A real favorite of mine. I have it growing over a 4' chain link fence at the back of my property. I used to also grow Bleu Magenta, but found the color less appealing - more like red wine and not the purple that I've seen in pictures. There's another purple multiflora rambler called Violette that looks very pretty.

These pictures are making me really happy I ended up with this rose.

So far, mine has looked more like Feiy's with the more lime green leaves and pinker hues on the flowers.

Soil pH probably has something to do with flower color and definitely affects the foliage with these multiflora types.

-Chris

Violette with Lavender Lassie

Bleu Magenta

Bleu Magenta

Baby Veilchenblau again.

How do your photos make me more and less patient with my roses at the same time?

I‘m not giving up on them until 2022

Never give up. People can take roses out too early before they get a chance.

Moser House Shed Rose aka Arcata Pink Globe is said to be a house eater. I have not seen it in person, only beautiful pictures. It is of similar Setigera ancestry to Baltimore Belle, another beauty, which I have seen, having planted it out on LI.,NY., where it was completely trouble free. The flowers hang down on long petioles & are extremely graceful.

Of course both are once bloomers but they bloom slightly later than the other roses, thus prolonging the season. Moser House rose is a somewhat darker pink.
Here it is just getting started in late May in Washington, D.C.
https://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=21.225802

Here is Baltimore Belle overwhelming a small tree: https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.318816%C2%A0

A lovely comparison shot by Hedgerow Rose:
https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.257266 

Kathleen withstands shade & puts on a beautiful display in autumn: https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.319529

Buff Beauty, like Kathleen, also a hybrid musk, is more exquisite than its name suggests,
https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.300694
Don't know if these would climb or compete with a tree, though, much less a "house eater," but they do withstand shade.

That's Chris in New Jersey with the Baltimore Belle. I figure if it's good in his own it would be good in yours.

You might also take a look at Perennial Blue and Pink Ghislaine de Feligonde.

Sheila, do you know anyone selling Violette? Burling has had it on her list the past couple of years when I’ve placed orders but it’s never been in stock.

I got mine from Antique Rose Emporium a few years ago. I might try to call them. Mike Shoup is great. I love mine.

Long ago roses and freedom Gardens both have this listed currently.

For those with chartreuse leaved roses:

Mike River's Chelated Glop

• 1 bag manure
• 1 5 gallon bucket peat moss
• 1 cup ferrous sulfate

Mix well, and moisten thoroughly. Apply in a large ring around roses that don't like your soil.

Roses are not supposed to be chartreuse. They grow much better with nice green leaves.