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when was this style stemware trendy?

5 years ago

I was given some wine glasses. They're not new. Probably not terribly old. I like it and if I can find it, might want a few more pieces.


I can't find marks so I'm starting with style. The shape of the bowl isn't one currently very common and overall it is beefy.


If anyone can tell me when this was stylish, please do! 1970s maybe? (And who was making crystal around then?)


Thanks!



Excuse the setting. I have a hard time photographing clear things.



Comments (15)

  • 5 years ago

    That's a pretty classic style....the only thing that is slightly different is the flair at the top...that says 1930 and on to maybe 1970?
    check out waterford patterns to see how classic that form is.

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  • 5 years ago

    Thanks for the rabbit holes!

    The flair at the top is the part that stands out as less common. I assume that other glasses in the pattern might not have it which leaves me looking at the pattern. And that way...madness. :)

    I don't see many modern glasses with the old fashioned buzz star motif though.

  • 5 years ago

    I agree with the CRISTAL D'ARQUES although there were other companies that were selling similar patterns. Most were from China. That stem and base design was used in several of their patterns from plain to simple. I have a couple of boxes that I purchased in the late 1970s -1980s although they are still being made.

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  • 5 years ago

    I don't know if Replacements is as good on glassware as it is on china, but browsing through their Cristal D'Arques it doesn't look like they have the correct blanks. Definitely a similar vibe though...

  • 5 years ago

    I have a bunch of Cristal D'Arques double highball sized glasses, odd numbers, no more than 3 of any pattern. I've picked them up at Home Goods-type stores in broken sets. They sold for 4 for $20 bucks originally. So I picked up mismatched ones, and managed to feel good serving orange juice or martinis on the rocks in pretty glasses.

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  • 5 years ago
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    So random internetting actually gives me a match to a line from a company that's been dead since the teens. This really looks like it:
    reps.com's listing

    It's pretty cheap on eBay. :)

    (eta: the only reference I can find to this company states that it existed from 1897-1914. Not sure it all adds up! Might have to go to a...library...but at least I can find the pattern, what/whenever it might be!)


  • 5 years ago

    Crystal d'arques is cheap pressed glass....what you have looks to be cut....
    There is a ABC (American Brilliant Cut) group on facebook. You might search them out to see if they have an idea.
    But I'll bet your glasses are older than you think, from what I am seeing on Replacements.
    There are other sites besides ebay and replacements.
    Good luck....they are lovely.

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  • 5 years ago

    Thanks, Linda. Definitely cut and not pressed--I know my photo wasn't really focused on more than the general shape but I could have mentioned that.

    Even if they are more recent knockoffs I have an idea of what they were based on. And they could be old but never used--the bases haven't been slid around much.

    Question: there are many tips online how to differentiate between ABC glass and "fakes". Was there ever a time when ABC was collectible/valuable enough to be worth faking? Because it sure isn't now!

  • 5 years ago

    Yes....but the "newer fakes" are not completely cut but are pressed into pattern and "embellished" with some wheel engraving. The dead give away is the unpolished look of the wheel cut cuttings, usually in the form of cross hatchings.
    The time for the fakes was about 25 to 30 years ago.....and most was European.


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  • 5 years ago


    I thought they might be Bohemia glass and did an ebay search using “Bohemia cut glass wine” and found several items that looked similar to yours. Here is one item but there are more, all slightly different, if you want to explore the possibility.

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  • 5 years ago

    Thanks--I saw those (or similar) too, and was thinking Czech or Polish more recent stuff fit and tried searching those. My uneducated research gives me the impression that while American and western European manufacturers stopped doing the old-fashioned patterns (like the pinwheels and hobstars and stuff), eastern Europe did it much later so it seemed logical.


    I still have only found the one match for shape and pattern though. I've seen several with a close-enough bowl design but not with the right stem.


    The heft and feel of the cuts is enough to convince me that they could be pretty old but if they are, I don't think they were the "good stuff".


    Nicer than mid-90s Mikasa though! :)

  • 5 years ago

    I was buying glasses like the one pictured in the OP after the 1994 Northridge earthquake destroyed most of my glassware. By that time they were being resold at swap meets, and occasionally I would find one in a thrift store.

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  • 5 years ago

    If you can find a shape that is similar that is sold by a specific company or area start looking at other designs by the same company. You may find a match although the match may be a century before. Most companies for a run of the mill glass use the same blank and change the pattern slightly. Once you find a company start looking at designs through the years the company was manufacturing. Occasionally you will come across a special order, one where the stem and the bowl are a combination of patterns.


    Be aware that companies do make various lines, low, middle, high, special. The there will always be what was popular at any specific time.

    Fori thanked maifleur03
  • 5 years ago

    Thanks for the tips. Easy internet info on this company is scarce. Just a few patents for fancier patterns and the listings at Replacements and other resellers (and it's pretty obvious that many of the items listed under this company by Replacements were not made during the company's existence). I don't know if they made their own blanks--they don't seem to match Libbey's.

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