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Havens vs Create Good Sinks

5 years ago

I have decided on a stainless steel apron front workstation sink. Can anyone tell me why the Havens sink is so much more than the Create Good Sinks? Is it the quality of the stainless?

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  • 5 years ago

    Buy the Rachielle. The original is still the best.

  • 5 years ago

    I don't know about Create Good Sinks, but Haven's and Rachiele use domestic metal rather than imported (sometimes there is iffy metal, such as lead, in imported), and it may be a thicker gauge. Also they custom build. I'm very pleased with my Rachiele 42" workstation sink. Have had it since the 2017 kitchen remodel. Because all the prep-work is done in the sink, the counters stay clean.

  • 5 years ago

    Oh jeez, Jerry's sink, counters, cabinets make me giddy whenever he posts them-just beautiful.

  • 5 years ago

    I can't speak about Havens, but I like my Create Good Sinks. Shipping was fast (this was well before COVID though) and customer service was great. I don't use the accessories as much as I thought I would, but they're nice when I need them. I find their colander works better with "bulky" foods like potatoes, carrots, thawing meat, etc. I reach for my old adjustable BB&B colander for the more delicate fruits (grapes, raspberry, strawberries, etc).

    HU-891276262 thanked Becky
  • PRO
    5 years ago

    Any undermount can be a workstation sink; just enlarge the front and rear reveals.

    My custom sinks are all 14 gauge:

  • 5 years ago

    Thank you for the picture! Beautiful! Have you always had one bowl?

  • 5 years ago

    Cxd213 do you feel
    Like 33” is big enough? I have the space to go larger but don’t need more than enough

  • 5 years ago
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    @HU-757119745 you're welcome. Prior to remodeling we had your typical top-mount stainless steel sink. We much prefer the single bowl (easy to wash large pans/sheets). We found CGS because my wife was set on having a pull out trash/recycle drawer under our sink, which their sink accommodates due to the offset drain option and shallow depth.



  • 5 years ago

    Thank you! Love that idea but worried about moving from sink when someone needs to use the garbage do you find 33 to be plenty big?

  • 5 years ago

    You get used to standing between the trash cabinet and the dishwasher.

  • 5 years ago

    HU-757119745 -- If I had the room, I would have gone to 60" (42" is current). 42" is large enough to do everything, but larger would be just a bit more flexible.

  • 5 years ago

    I'll also add that part of my reasoning to go with the "cheaper" CGS, is that there are no moving parts to the sink, so even if the imported 16 gauge metal is sub-par--not saying it is & hoping it is not!--how many ways can it fail? I decided to spend more money on the faucets and things with moving parts that are more likely to fail.


    My CGS setup is very similar to what @cxd213 shows above except mine is a 28" single-bowl sink. It is a very functional setup. I have designated that trash can for the "cook only". I have a separate stand-alone trash can against the wall that is used by the family. This helps alleviate the need to move every 5 seconds while cooking & lessons the need to empty the trash can every time I cook. My CGS is my prep sink and is large enough for all my needs. However, I have a 2nd sink (33" single-bowl , cast-iron, apron front) that is the designated clean-up sink. I could live with the 28" size, but much prefer the 33" if it were my only sink. Do you plan to use your sink as a workstation sink or a regular sink? That will determine whether you need bigger.

  • 5 years ago
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    The flipside to that logic is that one should spend more on the parts that are harder / more expensive to replace. If a faucet wears out, it's easier to swap out than a sink...even if Joe C is involved! That being said, the Rachiele/Havens were too rich for my blood and we have a Kraus Kore. Love it.

  • 5 years ago

    Yep, there is always a flipside. I still stand behind my reasoning though. I've never known anyone that needed to replace a SS sink because of a failure. All replacements were due to upgrading to bigger/better/deeper sinks or as part of a kitchen remodel. On the other hand, I know several folks including myself that needed to replace a faulty faucet, so this is where I chose to spend more of my $ on upgrades.

  • 5 years ago

    Becky -- It's usually the scratches that get the SS sinks (other than remodels). They don't fail but they can look really beat up.

  • 5 years ago

    cxd213 - I love you idea of the trash under the sink. How are the trash cans working for you? Do they feel small? Do you have 2nd trash can in the kitchen? How is the CGS with noise?

  • 5 years ago

    Hi all I am deciding between the Haven metals Luxe ledge undermount stainless vs the Create Good Sinks Ledge stainless. Now that it has been awhile do you still recommend the brand you bought. Pros and cons of the two brands, can you share?

  • 4 years ago

    @Mia Ness which sink did you end up getting, why and are you happy with it?

  • 4 years ago

    @wiscokid are you still happy with the Kraus Kore, the price point is amazing but I have read many reviews that it scratches very easily and is not brushed stainless so scratches are more obvious. Anything you can comment on about the sink pros/cons one year later?

  • 4 years ago

    We still love it. Stainless steel scratches period - if that's a deal breaker for you, I would look at a different material altogether.

  • 4 years ago

    @wiscokid its not a deal breaker but some SS finishes show scratches more than others some sre a more brushed finish so it hides it better im glad you sre enjoying yours

  • 4 years ago

    I went with Fossil Blu Luxury 33 inch Fine Fireclay Modern Farmhouse Kitchen Sink in White, Single Bowl, Flat Front, Includes Grid and Drain. From Home Depot. It is really pretty. I love it. You do have to get a really great faucet. As food or drink items do spread on the whole base. There is no slope to the drain. Easy with the right faucet.

  • 3 years ago

    @mianess how is it going w the Fossil Blu sink? considering the 36 inch one

  • 3 years ago

    I love it. My 50 pound golden fits in it to take a bath : ), If they have a slight slope to the drain, that will be easier to clean, Mine does not. I did buy the waterstone 5500 and it works wonders to clean the sink.

  • 3 years ago

    thats so wonderful! no scratches or chips? do you use a garbage disposal? mind sharing a photo?

  • PRO
    last year

    Paul - If you are looking for suggestions or inspirations on what to do with the sink . . .


  • last year

    Very disappointed "create good sinks" customer. Purchased a $1,575 sink on 12/2/24 for our vacation home. Just had the opportunity to use it for the first time after new years day breakfast. These photos are of my "good sink" after cleaning up breakfast. My review isn't on their website. Wondering why their website only has 5* reviews for the sink I purchased. Please note there are actually more scratches. It's hard to capture each one with the camera.
    Tip: don't ignore the scratch warning reviews like I did.

    BUYER BEWARE!

  • last year

    Very disappointed "create good sinks" customer. Purchased a $1,575 sink on 12/2/24 for our vacation home. Just had the opportunity to use it for the first time after new years day breakfast. These photos are of my "good sink" after cleaning up breakfast. My review isn't on their website. Wondering why their website only has 5* reviews for the sink I purchased. Please note there are actually more scratches. It's hard to capture each one with the camera.
    Tip: don't ignore the scratch warning reviews like I did.

    BUYER BEWARE!

  • PRO
    last year
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    Sue: So your 4th thread to complain about CGS? Seriously? I am so glad I'm not married to you.

  • last year

    Sue: So you're 4th thread to complain about CGS? Seriously? I am so glad I'm not married to you.


    Mean and uncalled-for! OP was asking about CGS and Sue provided feedback based on her experience.

  • last year

    Joseph Corlett, I'm here sharing my experience bc "create good sink" isn't transparent with their potential customers. If they are choosing to operate their business with customer reviews, they should reveal EVERY SINGLE REVIEW! They are deceiving their customer if they aren't. You must be a peach to personally attack someone you don't know over their review. Thank you for taking the time to find and respond to multiple posts regarding my "create good sink" experience. You are obviously marriage material with better things to do than respond to nonsensical internet posts.

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    You do not want to accept the basic properties of the material that you have chosen, and instead you chose to post the same thing on multiple threads that are years old. CGS clearly states that they use 304 stainless steel, which is the most common marterial for sinks, if you wanted stainless and something more scratch resistant you should have looked for 316 steel. There is nothing the sink manufacturer can do to make 304 stainless steel more scratch resistant, I don't know why that is so hard to accept. The stainless steel will scratch more over time in other areas and the scrratches will fade together so they are less noticeable.


    On one of your other threads, someone who sells a competing product to CGS has posted that this is normal for a SS sink...that should tell you something.

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    The information, for the half dozen people who don't already know that a stainless steel sink will scratch, is on Create Good Sinks website.

    From Create Good FAQ:

    Over time, scratches in the stainless steel will blend into a textured patina. We have embraced this natural process by finishing all of our sinks in a #4 brush finish to help disguise smaller scratches in the meantime. Using our grids in the basin of your sink will also greatly reduce the chance of deeper scratches.

    My Golden Retriever grand dog scratched my stainless Wolf range top but I didn't spam forums complaining about Wolf. For that matter, the GR also put a scratch on the rim of my $239 Prime Day Kraus stainless steel, too. Not Kraus' fault.

  • PRO
    last year

    "Mean and uncalled-for! OP was asking about CGS and Sue provided feedback based on her experience."


    Sue exhumed a 3-year-old thread and 6 other oldies to bash CGS because they apparently wouldn't publish her bashing on their website. She belittled their completely reasonable explanation as to the performance characteristics of stainless steel and insinuated that their stainless was somehow inferior to other stainless that she had purchased. Tell me more about mean and uncalled for please.