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What’s between the brick exterior and plaster wall interior. 100 YO.

5 years ago

The house I recently bought was built about 103 years ago. The exterior is brick on the lower half of the home and the upper half of the home is stucco with a vinyl siding overlay. (1 story house). The inside walls are lath and plaster BUT what is in between the brick walls and the lath and plaster portion of the wall? Is it framed similarly to how interior walls would be with some air gaps or?


I want to make sure if I remove the plaster from the inside of an exterior wall that I’m not going to be causing a huge problem. Are there studs behind the lath and plaster like there would be on an interior wall? I’ve worked as a day laborer on new home constructions and remodeled some kitchens and bathrooms on newer homes but this old house is something unique. They definitely don’t build em like this anymore. Just replaced all the cast iron and galvanized plumbingg to the tune of 10k so while they were doing that work, I had them set the new plumbing up to tie in the new bathroom. All I have to do is tear up the flooring, lay tile, and run the new lines and electrical and it’s ready to go. I can do the Sheetrock myself after the plumbers and electricia finishes and I’ll use wall texture so it matches the rest of the house but I just don’t want to open the wall up and be in For more than I bargained for.


along the same line, if I want to have the siding replaced, are homes of this age able to have that done or would removing the brick compromise the structure?


Another project is to hopefully cover the exposed foundation in plaster Or something. Being an old home, there are some settling cracks that have been filled/inspected but can I cover those with stucco or do a cement skim coat to refresh the way it looks? The concrete skirting around the house is also in shambles so I’ll have it replaced eventually as well.

Comments (12)

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    With a house of this age there is no way to know. The house could easily be three layers of brick with a layer of plaster applied directly to the brick, it could just as easily be a wood framed structure with a brick veneer. Only you will be able to find out. Cut a small window in the plaster somewhere inconspicuous.

    pegleg0302 thanked HALLETT & Co.
  • 5 years ago

    I was afraid someone would say something like that. knowing that’s even a possibility sucks. but if you don’t ask, you’ll never know, right?. Thanks Hallegg & Co!

  • 5 years ago

    Why are you removing the plaster? Unless it is damaged beyond repair it's much nicer and appropriate to the house than sheetrock.

    No, you don't want to remove that exterior brick unless it is in danger of falling. Brick is much more valuable than siding. Less work and money to maintain also.

  • 5 years ago

    Pictures would help. From your description I would be reasonably sure that it is a frame house with brick veneer. Is it a concrete block or stone foundation?

  • 5 years ago

    while I’d prefer to keep the plaster, it bulges in some areas and creates snag points on the walls and there Are a lot of patches that just weren’t done properly, so replacing it with Sheetrock would allow me to fix it all at once and in terms of the bathroom I’m going to build in, it will also allow me to open the walls to allow the plumbing and electrical to be run faster(and cheaper). The Walls and ceilings all over the house are textured and some rooms have already been converted to Sheetrock and they textured those to match the plaster(poorly). When I did make some holes in the walls for things like new outlets, I didn’t find any paper under the texturing layer, just solid plaster. Seriously, the house has probably been worked on by 5 different contractors and none of them even tried to match the work of the others. The drywall work was sloppy and they used too much joint compound in some areas, none in others. ill try to post some pictures on my Profile under a new project for more details and so you can see what I’m talking about.


    The house is sitting on a cement foundation. Not block. I just wasn’t sure if cement could be covered and not have it look like I’m trying to hide something. I haven’t seen any code against it in the UBC or in my local city/county codes.

  • 5 years ago

    How would anyone not there know? Get someone out there to cut into it and see.

  • 5 years ago

    The exterior of cement foundations is sometimes finished off with a skim coat of cement, but only if the cement finish is uneven and the skim coat is needed to make it look smooth. The skim coat looks a lot like a stucco finish.

    Its also very common to paint the cement foundation. Some in my neighborhood have used paint matched to the brick color, which looks a little odd in my opinion, and others have just used gray paint.

    Bruce

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Did you do this? We want to take out a closet since it's too small and it connects on either side to the brick exterior. We would probably put some premade armoires, so if we go that route we'd need to make it look nice if they were moved. I believe the wood floor stops at the walls so it seems like we'll have to patch in flooring and theirs a cavity between the closet ceiling and the attic so I'm not sure what we'll find (finished ceiling or exposed insulation? If you have photos or anything from what you found, I'd appreciate it!

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    You need to have the plaster examined for asbestos before you start any projects in an old home. Its not worth the future health problems by skipping this step. That goes for pulling up old linoleum (glue asbestos) and removing old plumbing pipes that look like they are wrapped in paper (asbestos insulation). For sure the paint has lead in it so during any sanding or airborne dust make sure you have a respirator. My house is 100 yo in 14 months.

  • 2 years ago

    Sure, but out home was built before asbestos was used in residential building construction and we’ve had what is new construction removed or encased which was primaily the HVAC. We also had a full home lead testing done and this area is clear, so we’ll still want dust control, but no lead risks. We’d also likely have a professional do this, but I’d like to get and understanding of the scale and scope of work I’m potentially walking into.

  • 2 years ago

    There used to be asbestos in toothpaste as an abrasive. Blow dryers had asbestos liners until the early 70s. In 1991 the ban on asbestos was overturned but there was a limit put on how much asbestos could be in a product.