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Updating Floors. Ugh.

5 years ago
last modified: 5 years ago

Fifteen years ago, we installed Brazillian Cherry, (solid wood) in our DR, family room, stairway, and hallways. A few years after that, I redid the kitchen and wanted a wood-look floor in there, but didn't dare go for the BC in there, so instead chose a laminate. Despite lots of scratch testing of the laminate, it hasn't held up well, so we want to replace it. So now we have laminate in the kitchen and half-bath, sheet vinyl in the laundry room, and BC in the family room, DR, halls, and stairway. We also have carpet in our upstairs which we want to replace. I'm thinking laminate.


I'm considering trying to address the entire hodgepodge of flooring right now, not just the kitchen. One of the things I dislike intensely are the transitions that sit at the two kitchen doorways, and around the marble foyer where it joins the Brazilian Cherry, so we could fix that perhaps. I also don't actually love the BC anymore. It's dated and too shiny, and too orangy-red for my taste, so perhaps that could be addressed. Not to mention an overall cohesive look. So goals= eliminate transition, achieve a cohesive look, tone down the BC. We may be in this house a good while longer, or we could downsize within five years, so there is resale to consider.


This is what I see for options (open to other ideas):

Scenario I

  • Refinish and restain the BC -probably something midtone, not dark
  • Match flooring upstairs, and in foyer, kitchen, half-bath, and laundry to the refinished BC

Concerns:

  • it's expensive to refinish and restain, and who knows if I'll like the look?
  • Can I truly match it to the rest and eliminate the transitions?

Scenario II

  • Tile the kitchen, half-bath and laundry room in matching tile (they are all next to each other).
  • Tile the foyer in something that blends but is more entry-like.
  • Update the old marble fireplace to blend with the new foyer tile.
  • Replace upstairs flooring with laminate (or vinyl?) that will blend with the BC
  • Leave the BC and just live with it

Concerns:

  • Although I hate the wear and tear of the laminate we picked, I do love the look of it in my kitchen and am unsure about the look of tile in its place. No specific ideas for tile either.
  • I still end up with the BC, which I'm tired of

So instead of continuing to burst my few remaining brain cells with all of this, I thought I might once again tap into the GardenWeb brilliance (yes, I know it's officially Houzz).....

I've attached photos, which I took in the midst of deep cleaning (or what passes for that these days), so please ignore the wretched state of the rooms.

Thoughts?

Thank you, thank you, thank you!















Comments (14)

  • 5 years ago

    I like option #2. And yes, you can absolutely get new floor to match with what you already have down. Or at least we did. Our first house had wood floors in the main rooms but the long hallway was carpet, well worn carpet. The wood floors were not in the best of shape so we had new wood put down in the hallway and the remaining floors refinished. Old floor was stripped/sanded down till it matched the new (bare) floor. It was then all stained and finished. Perfect. You would not have known the wood had been laid at two different times - years apart. That said, I would have someone who refinishes floors look at your floors and see what they think.

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    I love your house. For starters, id leave the BC. It looks so pretty with your furniture and I think it is already pretty mid range.

    I've learned my lesson about wood floor tones. I used to think wood was "timeless" but then realized the colors are all so different and that wood floors are in fact very trendy.

    When we bought our CT house 10 yrs ago, very dark walnut was all the rage. I'd lived with that in a rental house we moved to to start the school year here before our house was done. I did not like it and correctly saw it as trendy. The existing floors were pickled,which struck me as comically out of date. (joke is on me now). We put down a floor that I thought would be "timeless" in that it is random wide plank in a tone I think would have been original in 1900 when my home was built. Personally, I think it is too orange. The realtor and staging person said not to change it.

    I'd focus on the other areas and not touch the BC!


    I also like your tile entry and would not change it either. Nothing wrong w the laundry as is.


    The only thing I would change is your kitchen. I think it is too similar to the BC so it looks a little like a near-miss. For me it is also a little dark. I would like to see it more like the entry, but maybe you don't want to stand on tile? I like painted wood but it may be too casual.


    From a resale POV,btw, you don't need to do ANYTHING IMHO.

  • 5 years ago

    I know there are people who love tile and never have an issue with it but it is, so I found out, extremely hard on the feet and ankles and is something I would never do in a kitchen.

    Before redoing the hardwood, I would carefully assess as to why you are tired of it. Is it because of the red or because of how busy it is as a floor. It has a very intense pattern and will restaining it solve the issue of why you're tired of it.

    If you were keeping the BC I would choose a laminate the matches the staircase as you seem to have a nice match there.

    Is it bedrooms upstairs?

  • 5 years ago
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    I have this flooring in my hall bath in Maine. (Mine is little rose buds). It has held up well and I love it. I could totally see this type of flooring, in a soft colorway, in your kitchen

    https://www.harveymaria.com/kitchen-flooring/







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  • 5 years ago

    I agree that the BC is a tad busy. I’d get a pro in to tell me what is possible. Do you want to go darker? If so, perhaps you could have it refinished to the darkest shade. You said you do not care for the shine. For sure, a pro could tone down the shine.


    I think the tile in the entry is fine, but I understand the “transition.” My sister has that in her house whenever the floors go from wood to another material. I worry about DH tripping at the transition. Would you consider wood in the entry?


    Have you attempted to repair the scratches in the laminate? I did a quick Google and discovered it can be done if the scratches are not too deep. I currently have wood in my kitchen. I have had no problem with it. Most problems with wood floors in kitchens seem to come from appliances that leak, especially ice makers. I don’t have an ice maker. My sister does. Hers has flooded her kitchen twice! She’s thinking of removing it and installing a wine chiller. Oops, I got off track there... I wanted to say that I do not like tile in a kitchen. I’ve had with and I’ve had without. The tile really is less comfortable to stand on, even if you don’t cook much.


    As to the upstairs, I would not remove the carpet. It provides some level of sound deadening. My first floor is all wood. My upstairs is all carpet to tamp down noise.

  • 5 years ago
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    As an alternative, you might look into LVT. It's far more durable than laminate, doesn't clatter like laminate, it's softer and warmer underfoot than tile, never needs refinishing and no transitions.

    All of the flooring in the above photos is Amtico vinyl flooring. We've had it for 10 yrs now and it looks just as good as it did on day 1. And people don't believe it's not wood or stone. When we tell them, they often reach down to touch it to make sure.


  • 5 years ago
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    Wow, thank you all for these great thoughts.

    Mtn, you've given me a start anyway with tile. The last time I was looking at tile, everything was travertine, so I've had no idea where to even start now. I'll have my second COVID vaccine in three weeks, and then I'll be more free to go to some tile stores and start looking around. Annie, that LVT in the top photo (near your island) looks SO similar to our hardwood. I'll look at the Amtico website. I'm definitely intrigued with LVT and remember reading that Amtico is one of the best quality ones.

    We haven't attempted to have the laminate scratches or the BC scratches fixed, and one concern is that we have a dog, and two granddogs who visit. Despite my best intentions, I know any promises I make to myself to stop playing with them in the house will probably go by the wayside. We do have extra BC in a Rubbermaid tub in the attic. I've forgotten exactly how much, but I'm going to go take a look. We might be able to have floor installers replace the worst of the scratched pieces. I've also been looking more closely at the floor, and discovered that it is far more bothersome to me in the area where it butts up to the kitchen. That is also the area that gets the most direct sunlight and it is brighter than all the rest of the BC. It will be interesting to compare the color of that area now with what I find in the box. If we did have that section replaced, I might be able to put a UV film on that window to protect it.

    I agree with the 'near miss' comment. We put so much thought into the kitchen floor, and it just never panned out the way I thought it would. Tile, of course, would eliminate that risk. I spoke to a floor installer recently and asked him, "If we put tile in the kitchen, could you put in enough underlayment to bring it to the same level as the adjoining 3/4 inch BC?" He told me that yes, they could try, but it has to be absolutely precise because even being off just a teeny weeny bit will create a tripping hazard.

  • 5 years ago

    I like those tiles that look like painted wood for your kitchen! I would, however, have the foyer match the BC...I like flow. I‘d ask what they could do about the BC color, although I think it is rich and pretty as is.

  • 5 years ago

    I like flow, too. I'd look into your Scenario 1 first to see what could be done with the BC that would make you love it again. Then replicate it in the other rooms (with the exception of the laundry, which I agree is fine as is.)

    If that doesn't work, then if I were to spend money for some type of flooring in every area, I would get what I like, within reason.

    Don't worry about resale. Most homebuyers go into the process with a budget for flooring replacement. What you have now is very attractive, so any improvements will be a bonus.

  • 5 years ago

    I can advise you about tile. We have porcelain tile in the entryway, kitchen, and utility room. Porcelain is the strongest tile made and somewhat more expensive than other tiles but there's no wear and tear, no stains, & no scratching, and can also be used outdoors. Ours is ten years old and in great shape.

    Until the grout starts to get dirty because of two giant dogs who like to grab a mouthful of kibble from the UR and take it to the kitchen floor where it's dropped and then eaten. Have you all ever cleaned dried drool?

    If you do get tile, make sure you get a dark grout which I didn't. I did in the entryway but back then I never knew two giant bozos would be living with me.

    I really wish I'd gotten vinyl for the kitchen. My old kitchen had it and they make really nice colors and patterns now, and I loved it. Durable and so easy to clean.

  • 5 years ago

    As mentioned above you can definitely add wood floor and have it match adjacent refinished wood floor. We did that a couple years ago and it's perfect. You can also add tile and have it perfectly flush with adjacent wood floor - we did that in our last house. Those transitions would bug the heck out of me. I'd refinish the floor to the natural color - no stain. We have friends who have a natural cherry floor and it's beautiful. You can either save money by skipping the staining or add another layer of durable, dog resistant finish. I'd go for a more satin finish - doesn't show wear and tear as much in my opinion.


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    What 2katz said. Our wood floors do not have a shiny finish. I am another who does not like tile - at least in the kitchen. It's cold, it's hard on your legs/feet/back and I have grout issues. No mater what color of grout, it can stain. Dark grout can even show water/liquid spots. And we resealed! We had tile in our last house - kitchen and baths. When we built this house I said no. We have a type of laminate (I'm not sure what it is), but we have no scratches (at least not visible). Bathrooms sort of look like tile. It's so easy to clean and care for, has worn extremely well. I hear you on carpet, I will never, ever have it again. As for upstairs, if you are doing laminate there is something they put underneath - cushy, type stuff. I would think that would help with sound too. In our rental house we put laminate in kitchen and bathrooms, there is a kind now that is totally waterproof (although we haven't been tested LOL). Never had a ice maker flood, but years ago a dishwasher did. Good luck!

  • 5 years ago

    Well, you all have got my head spinning round, right round! I wanted to share a nice discovery I made last night. Might be old news to others. This site lets you upload a photo of your room and then view the product in your room. It's been pretty eye-opening!


    View the floor in your room