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Backsplash Help - Fireclay Tile Question

4 years ago

I am coming up on two years post remodel...about time to finally decide on a backsplash. :) Here is our kitchen on day 1 and today. We have Sherwin Williams White Flour uppers (a warm white), Mission Brown stained cherry lowers, and brushed skyfall granite (I believe it's also known as via lactea) which is black with some white veining. The kitchen is fairly neutral but open to a living space and dining room. We have lots of color going on, including rainbow fiesta dishes. We live in a classic NE colonial, but have a somewhat transitional style I think. Or maybe its a slightly subversive traditional style.



We think we have landed on Fireclay tiles in Oyster Shell. Its a greenish-gray, that seems to read pretty green in our kitchen most of the time. Here is a pic



We are still trying to agree on tile pattern Our top contenders are:


4 x 4 in a running bond:


2 x 6 herringbone:


or a 3 x 6 and 3 x 3 flemish bond:



My concern with the flemish bond (which I really like) is that the tile setter would have to cut 3 x 6s to make 3 x 3s which might make one side of the tile almost too straight and perfect versus the handmade slightly imperfect rest of the tile.


Does anyone have any experience with cutting handmade tile like Fireclay? How did it look in the end?


Which tile pattern do you like for our kitchen?


Thanks!





Comments (15)

  • 4 years ago

    4x4 running bond, hands down.

    SarahBen CS thanked megs1030
  • 4 years ago

    Are these cabinets Crown Select, by chance?? They are beautiful!

    SarahBen CS thanked kjb84
  • 4 years ago

    That Flemish bond actually made me queasy! Running, for sure.

    SarahBen CS thanked Janet Campbell
  • 4 years ago

    I have a similar color in the running bond, if this is at all helpful to see. I love mine. They are slightly larger; I think 5 1/8" by Winchester Tile.

    SarahBen CS thanked jkt107
  • 4 years ago

    kjb84 Yes, we used Crownpoint's Crown Select line (which for those that don't know is the limited selection, lower cost line). We had a wonderful experience with them start to finish. Impeccable service and incredible quality.


    Thanks to everyone for thoughts thus far. We are also going to do a grout color that blends with little contrast. I think this is another important piece of information in the decision because it allows the pattern to be more subtle.


    Does anyone have an experience cutting handmade tile? If so, did you notice any difference between the cut edge and the original edges? When it was all done, was any difference noticeable or not? (I am assuming it only might be noticeable to those of us who agonized over the decision, if at all.)

  • 4 years ago

    I love the Flemish bond in the two sizes. However, this only works if you do it with two different size tiles. It won't look right with cut edges mixed in with factory edges. Fireclay does make 3 x 3 tiles but I would want to discuss your ideas with one of their designers before you commit. I just obtained 4 x 8 Fireclay tiles for my kitchen backsplash but they actually measure more like 4.25 x 8.25. so I don't know whether this would matter to your layout decisions.

    SarahBen CS thanked Lyndee Lee
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    4 years ago

    I just specified the 4 x 4 running bond in Fireclay. Really nice looking and far more visually interesting than straight set 4 x 4's or typical 3 x 6 subway tile.


    Go with the 4 x 4's. Simpler is better.

    SarahBen CS thanked Sabrina Alfin Interiors
  • 4 years ago

    I thought so!!! I’m planning to use Crown Select in our upcoming project as well. We also have a colonial and I think it’ll be work well. I agree that the service is unparalleled.

    SarahBen CS thanked kjb84
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Lyndee Lee, thank you for that info. I am concerned about the edges.

    RTHawk, thank you!! I didn't realize that Fireclay would do renderings. I will definitely reach out to the customer service rep. That would be very helpful to me.

    kjb84, You will not regret it. If you are close, go visit the factory if it's allowed at some point once the pandemic is under control. We visited and really enjoyed it and learned a lot about how everything is made in the factory. Plus they give you a discount for visiting.

    Thanks to all for your opinions. I have always loved flemish bond, but have been leaning toward 4 x 4. My husband prefers the herringbone.

  • 4 years ago

    I spoke with Fireclay and although they were very helpful, they charge $150 for renderings for spaces under 75sq ft of tile. So that's a no go. Does anyone have any recommendations for an app or some other method of doing my own halfway decent renderings?


    Thanks!

  • 4 years ago

    I cut one of my Fireclay tiles today to see how well it worked. The tile cut beautifully and didn't chip the glaze.I attached the pictures so you can see there is a small but noticeable difference between the factory edge and the cut edge. Also, be aware these tiles vary in size. I believe mine were supposedly 4 x 8 but the actual length was more like 4 3/8.

    SarahBen CS thanked Lyndee Lee
  • 4 years ago

    Whatever you do, order proper trim and don't go with the cheesy Schluter edge thing. Number one reason to use Fireclay, right? Okay, number two reason.


    I have a bathroom done in Fireclay, top to bottom. The ceramic (dark body) cut as well as any tile and is very regular for handmade. (Part of mine is in their glass, which is discontinued and NOT very regular...)

    SarahBen CS thanked Fori
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    @Lyndee Lee Thank you so much for those pictures. They really help me see what the (small) difference would be. I spoke with the Fireclay rep about this and he told me that the difference would only be noticeable if you had your face right up in front of the tile. I don't think it is different enough to make it a huge no - no. Further, I learned from the rep that the 3x6 and 3x3 tiles are not modular, meaning that the nominal 3" measurement on the 3x6 is not the same as the nominal 3" measurement on the 3x3. Therefore, to do the flemish bond it would actually look better to use cut tile otherwise the grout lines could be off (or huge).


    @Fori Right you are. I'm actually hoping to tile around the window and up to the ceiling, and have been debating if and how to use tile trim around the window instead of the existing wood trim. I'm wondering if removing the wood trim and adding tile trim with a larger piece of tile between the cabinet and the window would look better than the existing wood trim and a small piece of tile. The existing space for tile is 2" while the wood trim is an additional 2.5".

    This is the look I'm going for:



  • 4 years ago

    @Lyndee Lee I should also add that this issue of cutting tiles is totally different if the glaze has a halo effect around the edges. I think that your tiles actually have a slight halo look near the edges. The oyster shell glaze does not.