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Favorite German roses (Kordes, Tantau)?

I accidentally mentioned a Kordes rose in the french rose thread (but I was so excited to see it available!) and figured I should ask about favorite German roses. What are your favorite Kordes roses? I see Cinderella Fairy Tale mentioned often, as well as Pompon Flower Circus (aka Pompon Veranda / Pashmina), Bliss Parfuma, Earth Angel, and others.


I know much less about Tantau--do we get many? I've seen them mentioned here but have never seen one available other than at Rogue Valley Roses.


What about favorite older german roses? I see Gruss An Aachen mentioned a lot and it's one I've been thinking about. I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts!

Comments (45)

  • 5 years ago

    Kordes - South Africa is fantastic.


    Tantau - Fragrant Cloud is still a favorite fragrance.

    Aaron Rosarian Zone 5b thanked hugogurll
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    Of my Kordes roses, Caramella Fairy Tale is great here. I prune it, I fertilize it, I forget it. Well, until it blooms, that is, lol. Figi is becoming one of my favorites. It's a 2 year old own-root, so I'm expecting great things this year in summer three. Ascot (Tantau) WAS a star, but I lost it to "that which must not be named"...RRD. I haven't been able to replace it, because Palatine always sells out before I can order.

    As an aside, a Kordes that does NOT do well for me is Zaide. I've seen lovely photos of it, but it just *sits* there and glumps. It simply is not a robust rose for me. I may try another one, as this one is own-root. It might do better grafted.

    Aaron Rosarian Zone 5b thanked fig_insanity Z7b E TN
  • 5 years ago

    I love my Fiji. It is such a great color.

    Most Kordes roses get huge here so I only have Fiji, Bliss and on order is Kosmos Fairytale.


    Fiji

    I adore Gruss an Aachen

    What a carefree rose



    Aaron Rosarian Zone 5b thanked Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
  • 5 years ago

    By far my favorite rose of any kind is Augusta Luise. I also like Bernstein-Rose and Ascot. These are Tantau. Kordes and I don't get along very well, but I do like Caramel Antike. Diane

    Aaron Rosarian Zone 5b thanked Diane Brakefield
  • 5 years ago

    Frühlingsduft is an absolute favourite from Kordes (1949). Another is Alchymist. Both are mostly once flowering, but worth it!

    Frühlingsduft

    Aaron Rosarian Zone 5b thanked MetteBee_Copenhagen8b
  • 5 years ago

    Gorgeous pictures!

    I have several Kordes Roses that are good performers for me

    SAVANNAH


    QUICKSILVER


    CRAZY LOVE


    ZAIDE


  • 5 years ago

    POSEIDON


    BEVERLY


    DARK DESIRE


    SUNSPRITE


    LIEBESZAUBER


  • 5 years ago

    I totally forgot that Savannah was a Kordes rose. It's another winner. That's a gorgeous pic, Sara Ann. And I'm VERY jealous of your Zaide. I need to show your pic to my struggling, pitiful plant, lol.

  • 5 years ago

    Sara Ann, I agree with Fig. Savannah is luscious, and Zaide quite lovely, too. Poseidon is another favorite of mine. What a beautiful bunch of roses. Diane

  • 5 years ago

    MetteBee, that is a gorgeous picture of Fruhlingsduft! I'd love to grow this rose someday. I'm not sure if it is available anywhere in the USA, unfortunately.

    Aaron Rosarian Zone 5b thanked K S 7a Yakima
  • 5 years ago

    Sara Ann your Poseidon is so beautiful . If my WhirlAway doesnt snap out of it Poseidon may take its place


    Aaron Rosarian Zone 5b thanked Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
  • 5 years ago

    Bliss Parfuma is my favorite Kordes I currently have, it was new last spring and performed well. I’m looking forward to seeing what First Crush, Madame Anisette, and Kiss Me Kate do this year.


    Aaron Rosarian Zone 5b thanked Nick 10bSW17
  • 5 years ago

    I got Gruss an Achen 20 years ago after loving it at Monet's Garden in France. The blooms are gorgeous but the plant is not very attractive. I think I will pamper this one a bit this year and see how it does.

    I got Pomponella Fairy Tale and Earth Angel as own roots last spring - not much to show yet, but these photos are gorgeous and I'm getting excited to see what they might do this year.

    Ascot has intrigued me when I see the gorgeous photos of it on the forum and now that I know I can grow multiflora root stock here, I think I will get Pompon Veranda from Palatine when next it is offered.

    Oh and then I forgot I wanted Augusta Louise...

  • 5 years ago

    I'd be very interested in hearing how your Kiss Me Kate does, @Nick 10bSW17, I was waffling on that one for a while this year but ended up not getting it.

  • 5 years ago

    @Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b) I only got a flower or two out of it in the first year, so I’m hoping year two is better.

  • 5 years ago

    My Kiss Me Kate was slow the first two years. It’s year three now and so help me God she better leap....

  • 5 years ago

    Nick, Bliss is exquisite. I never knew it was so beautiful. Another rose I don't have room for--sigh. Diane

  • 5 years ago

    Oh my!!!! Gorgeous roses!! I especially love:

    - MB's Fruhlingsduft!!!

    - Tammy's Cinderella and Ascot!!

    - Kristine's Gruss - that color!!!

    - Sara Ann's Quicksilver (swoon), Crazy Love, Poisedon, Beverly and Zaide

    - Nick's Bliss Parfuma (one of the prettiest ones I've seen!)

    Thank's Aaron for another great thread!

    Aaron Rosarian Zone 5b thanked rosecanadian
  • 5 years ago

    I have to confess that the rose on photo is not mine! It belongs to a former neighbor in Copenhagen. Two 25 year old Frühlingsduft in her front yard, 3-4 meters tall. The first year I lived on the street they bloomed a little in July-September (as well as the main flush in early June). Now I have two in my own garden but they are tiny in comparison.


  • 5 years ago

    Metteebee, that is a fabulous rose!

    I could never grow it because I only grow roses whose name I can spell , like Bliss. Lol

    It is lovely to see what is growing in Copenhagen. Thank you for sharing .


  • 5 years ago

    Ha ha, Kristine, I feel that way about French roses! Btw, the above is also known as Spring Fragrance. So you CAN grow it ;-)

  • 5 years ago

    That name is much more manageable

  • 5 years ago

    This is the one that always makes me pause: Erinnerung an Brod. I didn't get it right the first time just now. Diane

  • 5 years ago

    Florentina has been particularly eye-catching in my mother's garden. She always tells me not to buy her another rose and then is so pleased to show me their blooms. Her garden always far outperforms my own.



  • 5 years ago

    I really like Beverly. She is beautiful, has great scent and is disease free -including BS - in my garden. Her only problem is she is a Chili Thrip magnet. They ADORE her.... WHICH ticks me off because I adore her too and I do NOT want to share..... however, on the bright side she is my barometer, when I see CT damage starting on her I know it is time to spray.... that is good. Because I don't have to spray all the time and able to cut back.


    I think my favorite bloom is Earth Angle. I just LOVE LOVE LOVE it,,,, so wonderfully scented and ahhhh... the shape makes me want to swoon. However, she is not nearly as healthy in my garden.... After every flush.... which is always a great display, her leaves turn yellowish and she drops many of them.... not sure what is going on.... At first I thought it might be spider mites... but after her third time doing this I do not think that is the problem.... and it isn't from over watering.... I will try and get pics next time .... maybe someone can help me out on what she is doing..... However, her ugly leaf thing does not out weight the beauty and scent.... she still makes my heart go pitter-patter.



  • 5 years ago

    I second Caramel Fairy Tale. It's healthy, vigorous, and repeats well but is not fragrant.

    Cinderella Fairy Tale...really gets big here. Very healthy.

    Lavender Lassie...very fragrant.

    Lavender Lassie with Alchymist

    Aaron Rosarian Zone 5b thanked erasmus_gw
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    My Goodness,

    Some of my favorite roses-Kordes!

    Tammy, love your Kordes! Pomponella , Bliss and Cinderella, esp! Gorgeous photos!

    Erasmus,

    Caramel, Cinderella, Lavendar Lassie!-beautiful climbing on trellis!

    i ordered Kordes: Wedding Bells, and Bliss. But I could order them all! Kordes have such a strong unique character to each bloom! I also ordered Beverly, Summer Romance, Earth Angel. Kiss Me Kate Climber and Honeymoon Climber are already planted last fall. And I ordered from the Kordes Fairy Tale Collection: Pomponella, Cinderella, Lion’s Fairy, and I’d like to order “Elegant Fairy Tale.”

    All coming soon!

    S Sara Ann, I love your Quick Silver and Savannah photos. Newbies for my wish list!

    Honeymoon Climber planted last summer...


    Elegant Fairy Tale-Still looking for a nursery to buy it? Palatine or Regan may have it in fall.


    Lion’s Fairy Tale-Just adorable mini creamy -white blooms coming soon to my garden on order....


  • 5 years ago

    The Kordes roses are a favorite of mine too although I wish they were more fragrant.

    I don’t think I saw anyone mention Cream Veranda who is a wonderful small rose with a light fragrance. I have her in a pot on the front porch in maybe four hours of sun





  • 5 years ago

    Kristy - no kidding!!! Your mom's Florentina is fabulous!!! Maybe she can come and take care of my roses. LOL


    Sharon - That's strange that this happens to your Earth Angel. Does the plant recover after awhile...or does it take til the next year?


    Eramus - oh come on!!! Seriously??? Those are STUNNINGLY GORGEOUS....dripping in opulence!!! SWOOOOON!!!!! My faves are your first one and your 2nd to last (my favorite!!!).


    Kitty - I love the close up of your Honeymoon climber! I can't wait to see pictures you'll be posting this summer! :) :)


    Oursteelers - that last picture blew me away!!! The colors....ahhhh :) :)

  • 5 years ago

    Wow Cream Veranda is so pretty! Her colors remind me of Bathsheba in those photos!

  • 5 years ago

    Sultry if you don’t have here I think you’d like her. She‘s similar to Bathsheba but different enough that you feel like they are two separate roses.

    In my yard at least Bathsheba can sometimes have a golden cast whereas CV is pretty much always more peaches and cream.

    Also, Bathsheba has a “shabby chic” look and CV is more uniform

  • 5 years ago

    I grow two varieties of Kordes Roses that are some of my favorites. Hannah Gordan and Grand Amore'.

    Hannah Gordan

    Grand Amore'

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    Erasmus,

    In photo w/your Lavender Lassie is a gorgeous yellow rose w/pink on it... what is it’s name? Looks English or an old garden rose?

    Ken,

    Lovely photos! Pretty Grande Amore!

    Is your Grande Amore very thorny? Mine has a lot of thorns. I like it’s blooms but plan on giving it away and putting Velvet Fragrance in its place hoping for less thorns. Are you happy with it? How tall and how much does your bloom? What’s your location? Zone?

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    That's Alchymist, Kitty with LL. Wonderful Spring blooming rambler.

  • 5 years ago

    Erasmus, your Lavender Lassie and Alchymist photo is a very favorite of mine, and I might have attributed it to someone else in another thread. If I can find it, I will change it. That photo is one of the most beautiful I've ever seen. Those soft colors are meant for each other.

  • 5 years ago

    Ken - your Hannah Gordon has that sophisticated look that really great red roses can accomplish!! :) :) Beautiful!!





  • 5 years ago

    Thank you Rosecanadian and Flowers and all. I lost that Alchymist plant to cold! At least I think that's what did it. Maybe it was voles. It's supposed to be very hardy...Botanica's Roses rates it as hardy in zone 3.

    Kitty, Alchymist has a lot of different looks to it but often has a lot stronger coloring and can have some orange. Since it's a Kordes rose I'll add a picture or two. It is a very thorny rose with fat , beefy canes that can look ugly on the lower part. It would be good to grow something else to cover that . Blooms are large but have no fragrance.



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    Pure perfection! Erasmus, I hope you will grow Alchymist again and she will be as beautiful for you the second time around. I grew mostly OGR once bloomers when I lived in SoCal, but Alchymist could get me started again.

  • 5 years ago

    Kitty6aNY---I'm in zone 7, N.E. GA. I have 3 bush's of GA. I like it a lot. Strong spring bloom. Scattered blooms all summer. Very good fall blooms. Grows pretty much straight up with long stems. Yes, it is well armed but I grow Rosa Rugosa and Rosa Rugosa Alba, so I'm OK with thorns.

  • 5 years ago

    Yeah I kind of feel like I have to have Alchemist now. I wonder where it could fit...

  • 5 years ago

    My goodness! Alchymist is the most perfectly beautiful rose! Its a once bloomer right?

  • 5 years ago

    Oursteelers, I am going to look for Cream Veranda. I need at least three!

  • 5 years ago

    Sultry I think you will love it! I got mine from Chamblees before it was sold.

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    Erasmus, Alchemist is gorgeous and blooms so prolifically! I hope you try it again. I love seeing it grow so beautiful on that arbor.!

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