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Need David Austin climbing roses recommendations

Hello!

I live in Los Angeles area and it gets quite hot here in summers. What are your recommendations for a climbing DA rose or a climbing cupped (english) rose that will do well in this zone and flower generously?

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  • 5 years ago



    Note how small my little Abe is.

  • 5 years ago

    OMG Dianeee!!! Such a beautiful bloom! I am so sad that I cant find evelyn anywhere. Have been searching for it for a year now :(

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    Evelyn

  • 5 years ago

    I can provide whole bush photos, too. Here are some Golden Celebration photos I promised earlier. Diane

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    GC and Boscobel

  • 5 years ago

    Diane - lovely roses, does your Colette all day sun? Im considering this rose but I think the location I want to put it in might be to shady for her.

  • 5 years ago

    Thanks, Haku. Colette is in pretty much all day sun, though a nearby tree does make shade for some of the day, mostly late afternoon. In zone 9 (California?), you could get away with more shade, I think. I'm in zone 7 SW Idaho, way up north, so our growing season is short, though dry and hot. You would have a lot more time with strong sun. Diane

  • 5 years ago

    Rose Beginner: I’m not sure if you’re still looking for recommendations for our area... I’m just south of you in Orange County near the coast... zone 10b. I’ve been researching this exact thing question... And the DA... “climber”... at least in our hot dry area with not frost winters is, Gertrude Jekyll. Let me try to find some pics I stumbled upon in my research. The fragrance on Gertrude Jekyll is one of the most outstanding sweet rose fragrances ever. And very strong... in all the best ways. It’s said to do really well for us in our area. And... when I was at Armstrong Gardens... of all the DA roses there... it was the only one with over 20+ buds and starting to bloom in mid March. All the other DA roses still looked like sticks. I kept wanting to go back and smell it... it has such a delicious fragrance. The only downside to it... is it’s quite thorny. The other rose I’m considering that’s not officially a climber but will climb in our area is Meilland’s Leonardo DaVinci. Both these roses are said to be prolific bloomers for our area. Especially Leonardo DaVinci which does really well in full sun... whereas Gertrude Jekyll can handle some open shade. Here are some pics of the 2 Gertrude Jekyll roses I spotted at Armstrong full of buds and beginning to bloom.

  • 5 years ago

    Thank you co much @Ann-SoCalZ10b SunStZ22! I am still looking for recommendations (i am obsessed with roses, haha). I did get gertrude jekyll, luckily! :)

    I absolutely LOVE its fragrance! I was stunned to see so many blooms on it too. Some say it doesnt repeat well, but looking at all the buds, i was quick to grab one, and I am so glad I did!


    I will check out Leonardo da vinci for sure.


    side question : What is the rose behind gertrude in the last photo? It looks like emily bronte, is it? It seems like your local Armstrong garden has quite a lot of david austins! So lucky. They are all almost sold out here :(

  • 5 years ago

    Ann, I meant to answer your questions up the thread. Thank you for you nice comments on my roses. Colette is typical of many climbers in that she has a huge, long lasting flush in the spring with much smaller rebloom all season (not repeated full flushes). Fall bloom can vary according to our weather. Her canes are moderately flexible, but pretty thorny, and I don't think of her as a rose for bouquets because the stems are short. So, I'm not sure she is what you're looking for, though I love the look of her blooms. Diane

  • 5 years ago

    I was trying to post some more photos of Colette for you, Ann, but I can't get them to load, which usually doesn't happen. I'll try later. Diane

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  • 5 years ago

    Diane: Thank you for uploading those photos for me. You grow THE MOST AMAZINGLY beautiful roses. Will you please share your secrets? Can you remind me what part of the country you’re in and what the weather conditions is like where you garden? I happened to see a Colette Rose at Armstrong... but was underwhelmed... it only had one bloom... and it looks nothing like the blooms on your Colette. Here’s a couple of pics of the Colette I saw I Armstrong gardens.

  • 5 years ago

    Rose Beginner: Do you have and Instagram account where you share you garden pics? If you do, please share... especially since we’re in the same growing zones. I forgot to mention... while it’s not a David Austin Bred Rose... Eden Roses (bred by Meilland), white Eden, Pretty in Pink Eden and Red Eden all do exceptionally well in our area. Here’s a link to some pics and videos of my White Eden... https://www.instagram.com/p/CMGvBLYFyxi/?igshid=uth6zzz9c0kl

  • 5 years ago

    Rose Beginner: I and I can’t remember the roses that was behind Gertrude Jekyll. They were all sticks so I didn’t pay them much attention. I don’t typically go for David Austin Roses Because they haven’t performed as well for me as roses from Meilland and other breeders. I’m still searching tor the one DA roses that will not disappoint me in my garden. Maybe Gertrude Jekyll will be the one??? When I go back to Armstrong, I’ll try to look and take some more pics for you.

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    Ann - Have you tried Princess Alexander of Kent? She preforms well for me and a quick rebloomer, James Austin was new to me last year and was in bloom all summer long during our 100 plus temps and never fried. Im in inland SoCal.

    James Austin



    Teasing Georgia, PAOK (front), and Princess Anne(right back)



  • 5 years ago

    Haku: thank you for sharing your experience and giving me hope for DA roses in my garden. How is Princess Alexandra a Kent, as far as holding onto her blooms and repeating blooms? How old is she and how big has she gotten for you? Yours is a GORGEOUS multi tone true cool pink color. I will often see her turn more of a apricot warm orangey pink... like a salmon color. Does she do that in your garden? The roses you grow are stunning! How has Princess Anne been performing for you? Mine blooms on Princess Anne would open and shatter within a day or 2 if I was lucky it might hold on for 3 days. James L. Austin’s color is stunning! Now I wish I would have gotten him when I saw him last year. Does he hold onto his blooms a long time? I’m so picky with my roses, as I have limited gardening space... so they all have to be over-achievers in my garden or else they find a new home. Please share more pics... and more of your favorite roses. What other roses have done really well for you? Also do you share pics of your garden on Instagram? If so I would love to follow, especially since we’re in similar growing conditions... hot & dry Southern California. Your teasing Georgia... wow!!! The size and blooms on her... I love the ombré multi-tone color of light soft lemon yellow to deeper. Which ones in your garden are the best at giving you a prolific number of blooms, repeat blooming with blooms that last a long time on the plant without shattering?

  • 5 years ago

    Rose Beginner: here’s a pic of the roses you were asking about. I went back to get the Gertrude Jekyll, but alas it wasn’t meant to be. Because someone else purchased them. But I did see Emily Bronte... just short sticks with some leaves at this point.

  • 5 years ago

    Thank you so much @Ann-SoCalZ10b SunStZ22!! Yes I do have an instagram account and post it on my personal one. I will send you a request now, would love to connect and discuss roses :D

    I look for people in my area for advice too. It helps a lot!

    Thank you for sharing the pictures from Armstrong Garden center!! Really appreciate it! Your Eden pictures are lovely! I was thinking about getting one. Is it always blooming for you, or does it only do in flushes?

    I had some David Austins last year and some did really well for me. The best ones were Carding Mill, Lady Gardener and Eglantyne (Blooms dont last very long but they are breathtaking and have the most amazing fragarance). Carding Mill was probably the best performer. It always had blooms, although the blooms did fry a bit in the peak of heat wave we had. Had I watered it more, it could have been better.

    Princess Alexandra of Kent does really well for our weather too, I've heard. I dont have it though. Now that I see your pictures, I see that your Armstrong has it!! :D I will call them tomorrow to order. My Gertrude is doing very well this time. I see a lot of buds and blooms.

    Munstead wood does good too.


    @haku84_zone9 Seeing your James Austin, i want it too now :(

  • 5 years ago

    Between the offerings on the website and mentions on Instagram, I have been keeping a running list over the last year of what Grace Rose Farm grows since basically same climate as my yard. Here is the list with lots of Austin roses. Often their larger shrub roses can be grown as short climbers here.

    Grace Rose Farm Grows:
    Lady Gardener
    Bolero
    Koko Loko
    Distant Drums
    Francis Meilland
    Evelyn
    Princess Charlene of Monaco
    Princess Alexandra of Kent
    Queen of Sweden
    Carding Mill
    Jubilee Celebration
    Darcey Bussell
    Munstead Wood
    Lichfield Angel
    Golden Celebration
    Pure Perfume
    Tranquility
    Connie’s Sandstorm
    Stephen Rulo
    Love Song
    Miranda Lambert
    Celestial Nights
    Dark Knight
    Hot Cocoa
    Ingrid Bergman
    Mister Lincoln
    All Dressed Up
    Melody Parfume
    Iceberg
    Desdemona
    Moonlight in Paris
    Stainless Steel
    Plum Perfect
    Soul Sister
    French Lace
    Boscobel
    The Mill on the Floss
    Olivia Rose
    Emily Bronte
    Apricots n’ Cream
    Vanessa Bell

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    Rose Beginner, every rose that's been mentioned is going to do great in your climate. Climbers are usually shrubs here in my northern zone 5, however, Davis Austin's Crown Princess Margareta actually climbs, so I'm recommending her. She might be huge in your zone. She has a strong, lovely fragrance. She blooms all season. Our summer heat rival's SoCal and she doesn't crisp or wilt. The Austin site shows her on an arbor.

    I think you could just go by the color you prefer and use any of the roses suggested.

    Crown Princess Margareta


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    flowers, that is a fantastic photo of CPM! She is so frilly!

  • 5 years ago

    Gorgeous lovely photo, Flowers. How I'd love to grow this rose. Diane

  • 5 years ago

    Thank you, Sultry. I can't take any credit. She's just a good one all on her own.

    Diane, she is your type and you'd love her, but you'd have to find a place for her to climb.


  • 5 years ago

    Diane, I think CPM would do well for you. She likes a little cold weather in the winter.

    I have 2 here and I've noticed she blooms much better on the years we get more freezes during our "winters".

  • 5 years ago

    Speaking of DA climbers SJN, do you have Graham thomas? If so, oes it do well? Does it shatter fast for you?

  • 5 years ago

    I do have Graham Thomas. Planted two yrs ago in the ground. Just kinda sitting there not doing much. It hasnt bloomed that much either. I think I got it on clearance from Burpee and it was in sad shape. I dont know if that is the problem or if its our climate etc. It stays preety green but its just not vigorous *shrugs*

  • 5 years ago

    Ann - I have a lot of roses so i will just mention my fav top performers. I havent noticed PAOK (3 years and HUGE) turning a salmon color for me. Princess Anne does shatter quickly and pretty thorny, I rarely get cut flowers off her. James L. Austin does not shatter and the blooms last a very long time. I think you would be happy with JLA, takes the heat very well. Jude the Obscure (fragrant shatters) Golden Celebration (fragrant Most of my DA's shatter or only have a day or two as cut flower. I try to cut them very early in the morning while its still cool out.


    Non DA's I grow are Grande Dame (loves the heat and smells amazing I have 6) High Society (climbing rose and takes the heat well smells amazing) Pretty Lady rose (takes the heat and very fragrant) Violets Pride (very fragrant and repeats well) Double Delight (very fragrant and repeats well) Pope john Paul II (always in bloom and smells amazing for me) I'll keep you posted on some of my younger roses as they develop. Sorry I dont have instagram. I will try to post pictures my spring flush.

  • 5 years ago

    @Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley - I do have "The Albrighton Rambler". Got it in 2017 and planted in front of a 3 foot juniper hedge so that I could train it over the hedge and down a hill. It has morning sun and afternoon shade. This is it's 4th year and there's only 2 canes that are about 5 feet long. The rest (4 or 5) are about 3 feet long. Seems to be a pretty slow grower. Maybe it would grow faster with more water. The blossoms are a very pale pink and there is no disease on it ever. I think it will be really pretty when it gets bigger. Maybe this will be it's leap year. I promised all my roses that I will fertilize them more this year!

  • 5 years ago

    Haku84: Thank you for sharing. Those details are super helpful. Can you tell me more about your yellow rose, Teasing Georgia? It’s such a pretty yellow rose. I love the various tones of yellow on one Bush. I know nothing about how this rose performs in our area. Will you please share your experience? It looks like it’s gotten Wuie but and wide... yet full of roses.

  • 5 years ago

    Ann - The first two years not a lot of flowers then the third year full of flowers. My gardener not knowing its a climbing rose cut it back in half. Naturally I had a mini heart attack but to my surprise I was rewarded with another full flush of roses. Shes a big rose that grows really fast and throws out long octopus canes. I did not cut her back this year because there is a bird's nest, but once they leave I will cut her back. The flowers do shatter rather fast so I just enjoy them on the bush. I have a second one that gets more shade, second year in the ground and nearly a monster. I will be cutting back after the spring flush of roses. I also have Golden Celebration and I keep it cut back because I know it can be a monster too with our great weather.


    First year in the ground



  • 5 years ago

    Haku: thank you for sharing! I really appreciate all the detailed information you’ve shared and pictures.

  • 5 years ago

    Teasing Georgia makes a very good climber here in Crete. The hot sun doesn't phase her at all. I have her on a short pergola and she delights me every year.




    Daisy in Crete

  • 5 years ago

    Wow. This thread is SO ENABLING!!! 😂

  • 5 years ago

    Haku: this is a slight change of subject... but I think I remember you from another thread… And I can’t seem to find that other thread. Maybe I’m thinking of someone else. But, Were you the person who also grows Yves Piaget? If so would you mind sharing your Yves Piaget. That’s what I’ve been on the fence about… And I’m wondering what the form looks like. I’ve heard for some people that use Piaget will actually look bushy... and not spindly and awkward. I’d be curious to see some pictures.

  • 5 years ago

    Ann: Yes Im the one with the Yves Piagets. My older one has an ugly form, and the newer one is still breaking dormancy. Once they bloom I will take a photo for you.

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    Ann - Here is a bloom form one of standard Yves Piaget. I had not notice it was blooming until this afternoon.




  • 5 years ago

    Not a David Austin Rose... but a great climber that will probably do really well in our area. Always blooming and full of blooms... it would rather bloom than grow large. Heat doesn’t slow it down, and petals don’t scorch like with other roses. Rosarium Uetersen... I have a friend who grows it in the Sacramento area. And he’s convinced me that I need to add it to my garden.

  • 5 years ago

    David Austin Climber: large climber... spirit of freedom. It’s on my list for next year.

  • 5 years ago

    I saw someone's photos of Spirit of Freedom - possibly bayareagirl? And fell head over heels for that full, globular form in pretty pink. I planted it in February in a prime spot on my front step trellis to hopefully mingle at the top with Veilchenblau which is on the other side. I thought I had seen where it gets to 10-12 feet (which is what I want), but then somewhere else said 8-10 feet. I hope that's wrong. For once I want the DA rose to grow big! It's got a long way to go...just leafing out now at 1 foot tall.

  • 5 years ago

    BirdsLove: Spirit of Freedom should get really big for us in our area. Will you plaS share any pics you have. Also, since we’re in the same area... do you happen to have a garden account on Instagram? If so... I’d love to follow.

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    Does anyone have experience with James Galway? I really don’t need another climber but I keep daydreaming about this gorgeous rose. I’m in 5b so I’m not sure how he’d do here. Is he vigorous? Fragrant? Good bloomer?

  • 5 years ago

    JG is definitely dreamy but is not all that fragrant. Mine are blooming now and I took a whiff yesterday and the fragrance is there but not strong at all.

    Is anyone else's JG fragrant?

  • 5 years ago

    Ann-SoCalZ10b SunStZ22 - I follow instagram but don't post much anymore. I am hoping for Spirit of Freedom to get really big. Thanks for the encouragement.

    James Galway is a beauty - need a bigger yard!


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    Here are some links that may be useful. Especially those of Bay Area girl and Sheryl May as they are more recent and have pictures.

    https://www.houzz.com/discussions/roses/query/James-galway-bavaria/nqrw

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    James Galway has very dense and thick petals. Light old rose scent. It is not a generous bloomer. Has about 3 flushes a year. Spring, Fall and a few blooms in summer. A typical climber in this way. Short climber.