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Philodendron Imperial Red Leaves Drooping Please Advise

4 years ago
last modified: 4 years ago

Hey guys,

I need help with my Philodendron Imperial Red. When I bought it look like this with the leaves all upright and beautiful. Recently, a new leaf came in. I've noticed all the other leaves have dropped now instead of being upright. It definitely gets enough sun and I water it about once a week. Has this happened to anyone else who can help with this? One leaf yellowed slightly, otherwise the plant seems to be in good health. But it's taking up so much space now instead of being upright and compact.

Before: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vlTgpWst0R1brc5oQqoCCBqP3LNlYM4E/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vo7ADXbk1p4ds7VNhMzsybeddioHA4A0/view?usp=drivesdk




After: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vhYEb3qT6P9XmoD85ZtNQG56wJTAUqFk/view?usp=drivesdk

Comments (5)

  • 4 years ago

    has the color changed as much as the pix seem to suggest???


    how long have you had the plant ...


    does it need water.. when you water .. or are you just relying on a schedule.. if so.. where did you get that schedule ...


    does the pot have a drain hole.. is there a pot inside the pretty pot???


    i see a pot outside.. so may we presume there was no cold event ... if a new plant.. did you bring it home in cold???


    ken

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Hello @ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

    Thanks so much for replying.

    I think part of the color change is in the lighting. Here are more pictures of it now in the same lighting. I think probably some of the leaves have gotten a bit more yellow but it's not a super clear difference as far as I can tell. Some leaves have yellow spots which I don't think were there in the beginning.

    I've had the plant for about a month and a half.

    For watering, I dip my finger into the soil about 3 cm in, and if it's still wet I don't water. This has resulted in me watering once every 6-8 days.

    The pot has a drainage hole, and the clay pot it's in also has a drainage hole.

    No, I live in Egypt, so the weather has been quite warm.

    I'm just confused as to why this is happening because I thought the plant was looking quite healthy. I felt the soil today, I don't think it needs to be watered.


    Also I haven't fertilized at all since I bought it.








  • 3 years ago

    Did you find a solution because I'm.facing the same problem...the leaves have spread out and drooping rather than being upright... please help
















  • 3 years ago

    @NK !! Unfortunately this plant died. In my case, I think it had been overwatered. If the soil is wet, try aerating it by turning over the soil so it dried faster. Hopefully, it recovers.

  • 3 years ago

    Anytime a plant wilts while the grower can still detect moisture in the grow medium, odds are extremely high that the plant has been over-watered or the soil is made of materials too fine to support a healthy root system because the soil has become compacted. Excess water and/or soil compaction robs roots of their ability to access the oxygen essential to normal root function.

    While generally frowned upon, watering on a schedule can be used as a viable strategy when using highly aerated and fast-draining grow media. I water on a schedule and there is ample evidence of the elevated vitality levels of my plants in the countless images I've posted at this site. The lion's share of the credit goes to the grow media I use, not to anything special I do other than provide a healthy home for roots.

    Water when the top inch or two of the soil feels dry to the touch?

    Most growers unfamiliar with how water behaves in container media are prone to repeating the title mantra. But let's look at some facts. A saturated or partially saturated medium is limiting in a number of ways.

    Roots need an ample supply of oxygen in order that roots can function normally. Saturated soil surrounding roots limits oxygen required to drive root function, thereby impairing root efficiency and possibly setting the stage for any of a number of fungal pathogens that thrive in anaerobic (airless) conditions.

    Soil saturation limits gas exchange, so waste gases like methane and CO2 in the root zone are less able to leave the soil, also limiting root function

    Soil saturation kills the fine roots that do the lion's share of work involving water uptake and nutrient distribution. When this occurs, chemical messengers tell plant central injury to the root system has occurred. Top growth stops immediately, because root growth always precedes top growth – the top will not grow if the roots cannot support the growth with water/nutrients. The plant is then forced to regenerate dead roots, using energy which otherwise would have been devoted to additional top growth, keeping the plant's systems orderly, keeping the plant wearing a 'healthy glow', and improving the plant's ability to defend itself. In short, the wasted energy would have kept the plant looking/ growing better, and healthier.

    If a pot is 10” deep, the top 2” can feel completely dry to the touch, even while the bottom 6” is 100 saturated. That means 60% of the medium would be fighting you tooth and nail for control over the plant's vitality …… and this is the point at which you should water again? Does that sound reasonable? We don't care even a whit if the top 2" of the soil are dry. Roots there are largely plumbing and anchorage, with essentially none of the fine almost microscopic roots that do the lion's share of the plant's heavy lifting.

    Ficus species are all good at retaining water in their roots in case of drought. That doesn't mean you should test them to see what they'll tolerate, but it does mean you can and should let the soil dry down so you can only detect moisture (by using a 'tell') in the bottom inch or two of soil. Let me know if you're unfamiliar with the term 'tell'.

    If we want to take advantage of conditions offered by a well-aerated media, it's essential to base the medium on a very large fraction of coarse material (80-95%). You cannot expect to add a few handfuls of bark or perlite to a grow medium you feel is unsuitable due to excess water retention, and expect the coarse material to make a difference. In fact, coarse material added to fine material DECREASES o/a aeration, and continues to decrease aeration until a threshold proportion is reached, at which there is no longer enough fine material to fill the larger spaces between the coarse material(s). You can see this at work in the mind's eye if you imagine what little air porosity a jar filled with fine sand has. Start adding marbles to the sand - what happens? The marbles displace sand that does have some aeration. The result is, the actual amount of air porosity in the jar DECREASES and continues to decrease until so many marbles have been added that there is no longer enough sand to fill spaces between marbles. This is "the threshold proportion", after which, as we add additional marbles, air porosity quickly increases.

    Using a 'tell'

    Over-watering saps vitality and is one of the most common plant assassins, so learning to avoid it is worth the small effort. Plants make and store their own energy source – photosynthate - (sugar/glucose). Functioning roots need energy to drive their metabolic processes, and in order to get it, they use oxygen to burn (oxidize) their food. From this, we can see that terrestrial plants need plenty of air (oxygen) in the soil to drive root function. Many off-the-shelf soils hold too much water and not enough air to support the kind of root health most growers would like to see; and, a healthy root system is a prerequisite to a healthy plant.

    Watering in small sips leads to avoid over-watering leads to a residual build-up of dissolved solids (salts) in the soil from tapwater and fertilizer solutions, which limits a plant's ability to absorb water – so watering in sips simply moves us to the other horn of a dilemma. It creates another problem that requires resolution. Better, would be to simply adopt a soil that drains well enough to allow watering to beyond the saturation point, so we're flushing the soil of accumulating dissolved solids whenever we water; this, w/o the plant being forced to pay a tax in the form of reduced vitality, due to prolong periods of soil saturation. Sometimes, though, that's not a course we can immediately steer, which makes controlling how often we water a very important factor.

    In many cases, we can judge whether or not a planting needs watering by hefting the pot. This is especially true if the pot is made from light material, like plastic, but doesn't work (as) well when the pot is made from heavier material, like clay, or when the size/weight of the pot precludes grabbing it with one hand to judge its weight and gauge the need for water.

    Fingers stuck an inch or two into the soil work ok for shallow pots, but not for deep pots. Deep pots might have 3 or more inches of soil that feels totally dry, while the lower several inches of the soil is 100% saturated. Obviously, the lack of oxygen in the root zone situation can wreak havoc with root health and cause the loss of a very notable measure of your plant's potential. Inexpensive watering meters don't even measure moisture levels, they measure electrical conductivity. Clean the tip and insert it into a cup of distilled water and witness the fact it reads 'DRY'.

    One of the most reliable methods of checking a planting's need for water is using a 'tell'. You can use a bamboo skewer in a pinch, but a wooden dowel rod of about 5/16” (75-85mm) would work better. They usually come 48” (120cm) long and can usually be cut in half and serve as a pair. Sharpen all 4 ends in a pencil sharpener and slightly blunt the tip so it's about the diameter of the head on a straight pin. Push the wooden tell deep into the soil. Don't worry, it won't harm the root system. If the plant is quite root-bound, you might need to try several places until you find one where you can push it all the way to the pot's bottom. Leave it a few seconds, then withdraw it and inspect the tip for moisture. For most plantings, withhold water until the tell comes out dry or nearly so. If you see signs of wilting, adjust the interval between waterings so drought stress isn't a recurring issue.

    Al