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Hana Matoi Japanese Maple

Started this in another thread, realized I was getting way off topic, so here's a new thread.

Thanks (gardengal48) for the answer. I always appreciate your advice. I am fortunate to have a couple of great JM places within an hour or two of me. I wouldn't expect a specialty nursery to get the name wrong like that, but I was looking at an interesting JM last Friday the owner said was Hana Matoi. Had a lovely range of soft colors through out the leaf and seemed to be somewhat upright (or maybe it had been staked. I remarked it didn't look like mine (which is spreading) and has pink, green, red and white leaves (although all red and pink right now). He said (his) Hana Matoi never has white in the leaf. Really? I know lighting makes a huge difference, especially with this variety. I trust my vendor and the other pics of it I've seen on the web. I suppose with all the grafting its possible some branch mutations(?) could develop that eliminate the white (or is it?). Or does it need more direct sun for the white to appear, or less? Here's mine today getting a lot of sun (until the trees above it leaf out).

and from July 2019

hmm, guess there's not a lot of white in it. I'll be keeping a closer eye on it this year.

Comments (3)

  • 5 years ago

    Steve, if true to name, you've got yourself a unique one there!! Everything about this cultivar is slightly unusual - it's a dissectum that verges on matsumurae; it wants to grow upright yet has pendulous branching; and its coloring is extremely variable including that it tends to produce different coloring in clumps. One portion may be all pink, another a darker, almost purple and yet another with some slight white variegation. But ALL leaves should be showing a green base unless in full fall color.

    I have not grown this one personally but my experience with other white variegated JMs is that the white variegation is most distinct when grown in lots of shade. In much sun, the plant just boosts up its anthocyanins to protect against scorch.

    The bigger question is is your plant true to name? I can't be certain but it's questionable......the habit is off and I don't really see any variegation. Maybe just a touch on the left hand side of the July shot. But please don't take my word for it :-) As I said, I have not grown this cultivar personally so its actual appearance in the ground may be even more unique than described.

    steve duggins(Z6a) - Central Ohio thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 5 years ago

    Thanks for your helpful comments. I think it is true to name, just showing climactic variation. According to Mr. Maple, "This laceleaf cultivar leaves out in the early spring as
    bright red with hot pink variegation. As the season progress's this
    lovely tree's red color deepens in full sun. In more shaded areas 'Hana
    matoi' will green up and show a combination of white and pink
    variegation." It's early spring here and showing bright red w/ hot pink. Pictures do not do it justice perhaps I'll try another.

    The July pic has a pink second flush on top. The other leaves are a bronzey, green w/ some red in the sun on the right (not showing variegation in sun) and showing the green with pink and white variegation on the shadier parts underneath the pink. Hard to tell with the crappy picture, but my larger one (and memory) is a little more clear.

    Here's a new pic from a shady day (today). You can see the green base dominated by the early spring red and some of the variegation.

    That leaves the growth habit, described as a "cascading umbrella". Mine is more of a cascading reaching for the sun shape. Maybe the scion was from a very horizontal shoot and its still working on growing up into the umbrella. (but why would it grow up and then cascade. Seems like a high graft on a standard might produce that. Orrrrrr . . . , I think I should have staked up the thick branch growing to the right when I planted it to give me the umbrella shape. Wonder if it's too late?

    But it was underneath a gangly panicled Hydrangea at the time which has since been whacked way back leaving this in more sunshine, at least until later in the spring, when the high Oak canopy leafs out and the sun is more overhead.

  • 5 years ago

    Steve, I don’t totally understand what you are talking about above.....🙄

    But I like the shape of the tree as is. :-)

    debra

    steve duggins(Z6a) - Central Ohio thanked djacob Z6a SE WI
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