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What is wrong with this rose?

I was just saying how great my 'Prairie Sunrise' was looking this year.... *sigh* And it was! Until it wasn't. Anyone have any idea what is wrong with it? One side looks healthy and the other has drooping buds and some yellowing leaves.... The Right side looks great, the left not so much.




This is one of the drooping buds on that left side....


Here is a trio of upright buds on the right side....


Comments (15)

  • 5 years ago

    It's hard to tell from your picture, is there damage on the base of the cane on that side?

    prairiemoon2 z6b MA thanked joeywyomingzone4
  • 5 years ago

    It looks like there is fairly significant cane damage on the bottom of the drooping part. Rose canes can have a lot of stored energy, and can leaf out without much input from the root system. This one looks like it was running on empty, and the fumes finally gave out.

    prairiemoon2 z6b MA thanked mad_gallica (z5 Eastern NY)
  • 5 years ago

    Might be cane borers? I have heard that sometimes causes wilting. Thought I agree with @mad_gallica (z5 Eastern NY) I have had rose cuttings I thought were rooting beautifully becuase they had a ton of new growth and then I tugged a little and they were horrifically rotted. Rose canes have a ton of energy in them!

    prairiemoon2 z6b MA thanked GardeningTeenager
  • 5 years ago

    Hmmm....well I'll have to take a better look at the base. The bottom of the canes are pretty bare and I'm not sure why and there are not that many of them. I paid more attention to them this year, by adding some compost and alfalfa meal around the bottom. The same as I did to the rest of the roses and this seems to be the only one having this problem.


    What would you suggest I do with it?

  • 5 years ago

    The only thing to do with it is to cut it off below the damage. It isn't an emergency, so if you think you'll get any show from it at all, it can wait a few weeks.

    It looks like winter canker damage. It isn't always noticeable when the spring pruning it done. So you just cut it out when you do see it.

    The cane is dead, it just doesn't know it yet. There isn't anything that can be done to save it, but the damage isn't going to spread.

    prairiemoon2 z6b MA thanked mad_gallica (z5 Eastern NY)
  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Okay, well, I may try to trim it up to allow the part that still looks okay to bloom and then cut the cane back at that point. Below what looks like damage. That's pretty low and the shrub is going to look pretty odd wtih just the remaining two canes on one side of it. I think I'd rather allow what is about to bloom to finish up and then cut it all back to below the damage on the one cane and let it fill back in with a more symetrical production of new canes possibly. It's still early in the season. Even if I don't get more bloom from it this year, I'd love to get a fuller, well shaped shrub for next year. But we are expecting a heat wave for the next five days here, in the 90s and sunny. I'd assume I'd wait for more moderate temperatures?

    Actually, now that I think about it. I had poor new growth on Pope John Paul this spring. it was spindly and lanky and slow. Then it started to push out new canes from the base that looked more vigorous and healthy than the first new growth, so I just went back and cut all that off and left the new growth that was healthier and it responded well to that and has buds on it now.

    And I have ' Beverly' that I thought was actually dead and very late to come back from the ground and that has new growth that looks good with buds on it. So I guess we had a hard winter on some of these roses...and a cold spring.

  • 5 years ago

    I just went out and looked at it again. Definitely can see that the growth and buds on the other canes are fine, it's just that one cane. I am going to cut the whole thing down to the ground because the bottom 8 inches or so is dark and not bright green like the others, so that must be the section that is damaged. I think the shrub might not look too bad with that out of there at least until it finishes it's first flush of bloom and then I would love to cut it all back to the ground, unless you think that's a bad idea?


  • 5 years ago

    No, I do not think it would be wise to cut the whole thing down to the ground-no way. As was mentioned earlier in this same thread, roses store a LOT of energy in their canes, and you risk badly weakening the entire bush. I'd definitely take out the sick cane ASAP; it's just sapping energy away from the healthy part of the plant. Then, after the plant blooms, no more than a very slight trim on the healthy part,but most of all, add lots of alfalfa hay or meal and keep it well watered.If it's a repeat bloomer, maybe sacrifice the blooms for this year by de-budding,if you can bear to do so, lol . Often a happy rose will quickly put out a new cane to replace the old, sick cane, once this latter is removed, but you would seriously jeapordize that possibility by cutting back a lot of the healthy stuff.

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  • 5 years ago

    Bart, thank you. I can do that for sure and I have a few other rebloomers so I can definitely debud this one for this year once this first flush is done. I'll get out there tomorrow morning and take off that cane and keep it watered well and add more alfalfa meal.


    I'm so glad it wasn't a disease, that would have been discouraging!

  • 5 years ago

    What a gorgeous rose! I am so jealous!

  • 5 years ago

    GTeenager - Any healthy vigorous rose is gorgeous to me...lol. I have to agree this one is a keeper. Prairie Sunrise is part of the Buck Rose series. They made a lot of very cold hardy, disease resistant roses. This variety is also a repeat bloom and fragrant and the blooms are a good size. It is labeled as a shrub rose. Mine might not resemble a shrub as much because it is not growing in full sun. It's in shade after 2pm. I bought this rose from a very reputable rose company, Pickering Roses in Canada. It was a family run business that took great care with growing details and shipped wonderful healthy bare root roses. A number of mine were from that company. Sadly, the father of the family died and the family closed the business after that. I miss being able to get my roses from them.


    Recently, I bought from Palatine, which has been recommended here on the forums. They also ship bare root. I trust bare root more than I do potted roses. And I like buying from a company whose methods and practices are considered to be careful and knowledgeable to prevent diseases from spreading everywhere.


    I can highly recommend this rose, based on my experiences with it. I believe there are other varieties with the 'Prairie' designation - 'Prairie Star' - 'Prairie Princess' - 'Prairie Harvest'.


  • 5 years ago
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    I have praire princess! You are making me excited!!!!! If it comes out half as good as yours I will be lucky!

    prairiemoon2 z6b MA thanked GardeningTeenager
  • 5 years ago

    Yes, take good care of it and post some photos as it grows....would love to see it!

  • 5 years ago

    I will! It has no buds right now but it is healthy!

    prairiemoon2 z6b MA thanked GardeningTeenager