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Bloom size and fragrance on tiny seedling

5 years ago

I know most people de-bloom their "infant" roses until they get bigger....

However, I am not considered a patient person... and when it comes to finally growing something from seed that impatience shows.

I have a small rose that I grew from seed. The plant is maybe 2 months old and about 12 to 15 inches tall. It put out a small bud about 1 inch in size.... it also has a nice fragrance... not strong, but nice.

Is the size of the bloom to be in correlation with the size of the plant.... remaining 1 inch.... or will it get bigger.... can I expect the fragrance to remain not strong.....

Guess I am asking because my impatience is showing.

This is a pic on his first day open... bright magenta pink... the 2nd day he is pink and yellow.



Comments (24)

  • 5 years ago

    Here he is a day or two later.... in a more pinkish yellow phase.

    Scent seems to be a little stronger.... size is still about an inch


  • 5 years ago

    Looks very pretty. Bloom size will get larger as the plant grows, same with fragrance. My W.S. 2000 bloom was the size of a quarter as band-size, now it's the size of a hamburger patty if well-fertilized. I don't get scent on a few of my roses until the 2nd or 3rd year.

    sharon2079 thanked strawchicago z5
  • 5 years ago
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    I have a second bud on this little plant..... it has a bright magenta and just stating to open.... I noticed it did not have much scent last evening.... and more today.



    I am thinking of calling him Firecracker. His first bloom opened on July 4th.... and he opens up to change colors.

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    I have a 2nd rose "bush" that is doing pretty well from seed.

    Here he is the first day.... He has a pretty tight center.... I don't know if you would call it a spiral or not.... He has a nice scent.



    And here he is a day later



  • 5 years ago

    I have noticed that most of the little roses that I have growing from seed right now have thorns.... all but the one in the top picture. He has now had 3 blooms.... and still no thorns... hoping he remains thornless....

  • 5 years ago

    How darling, Sharon!

    sharon2079 thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 5 years ago

    It's gorgeous! I love the cute little center!

    sharon2079 thanked joeywyomingzone4
  • 5 years ago

    Love the color changing! Scented and thornless!

    sharon2079 thanked ann beck 8a ruralish WA
  • 5 years ago

    Oh the color!!! What an exquisite little seedling!! This looks like a winner! Excellent!! Fragrance and no thorns are a win! What is the parentage of this seedling? GORGEOUS!!!

    sharon2079 thanked rosecanadian
  • 5 years ago

    rosecandian, I am not sure what the parents are..... I had the seeds marked in the hubby's fridge but forgot to mention it to them. He spilt the tray.


    I think it has Lyda as one of the parents due to the scent, but I am not really qualified in determining anything about genetics. How scent, color and petal count is determined.... I have read some article that people have posted, but they are so "sciencey" that I just glaze over.




  • 5 years ago

    I love all your little rose photos. What a wonderful rose to smell good, have no thorns, and look so lovely. Don't worry about removing buds. I've never done it, and there's no science to support it. Continued good luck, but avoid hubby's fridge--ha. Diane

    sharon2079 thanked Diane Brakefield
  • 5 years ago

    I think you should buy your own little fridge! :) :) Keep us posted on this special seedling and all of your others!

    sharon2079 thanked rosecanadian
  • 5 years ago

    Gorgeous !! I love all the pics. posted and fragrant & thornless is hard to match.

    sharon2079 thanked strawchicago z5
  • 5 years ago

    Oh they are beautiful! What are all the possibilities for the parents besides Lyda Rose. I bought those tiny pollen clipping scissors mentioned here and now I need to start collecting pollen from Valentine to cross with Cl Crimson Glory. So fun to see your progress. Keep the updates coming!

    sharon2079 thanked Stephanie, 9b inland SoCal
  • 5 years ago

    Stephanie, I have lots of possibilities, because I don't always deadhead because I like to try my hand at raising roses from seeds.... I do not get a high germination rate but I find it fun.

    The only rose that I had with the same scent as my little seedling is Lyda. I do not know if roses can pick up scent from parents and grandparents.


  • 5 years ago

    Sharon, that does sound fun! I really want to try it too, but I first need to set up my drip system to go to some larger pots that could get automatically watered. Otherwise there is no chance they will make it. I have been letting some hips form on a few favorites. But my most prolific bloomer is Valentine; I swear it blooms every day of the year in SoCal. It has no scent so I wonder if a cross with Cl Crimson Glory might give a prolific bloomer with scent.

    sharon2079 thanked Stephanie, 9b inland SoCal
  • 5 years ago

    Here is firecracker's latest bud. It is lighter pink not the neon that it has been..... looking forward to see what color the flower will be.... I like how he changes. He gives me a real firework show... different looks.




    I am thinking that I may need to move him to a bigger pot. I am very scared about doing it. I lost a lot of cuttings this past spring when I used the Miracle Grow potting mix in the yellow bag. I was ok with the blue bag so I think I will use that. I also have some vermiculite and some perilite .... do you think I should mix that into the blue bag of Miracle grow so it has good drainage. For some reason my potting mix pots get very compact. I think it is because I have to water them twice a day everyday.

    What are your thoughts on this.




    Firecracker has been living in my house under lights.... but I am thinking it is close to his time in going out into the world. I sure wish he was big enough to take a cutting so I have a better chance of keeping him going..

  • 5 years ago

    Outside on the shady area to start that baby should do great in a bigger pot. I'll look up the yellow bag MG to avoid.

    sharon2079 thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 5 years ago

    Is Firecracker the seedling you showed above

    From you: Has very long septals


    I think Firecracker is a great name!

    I always like adding perlite. But I don't want to steer you wrong.

    Please show us a pic when the bloom opens!


    sharon2079 thanked rosecanadian
  • 5 years ago

    rosecanadian yes, the picture you showed is the rose I call firecracker. He has long septals. He is thornless. He has a strong scent. And he changes color from his bud, to first opening to when he drops color.... Since he changes color (like fireworks) and his first bud was on the 4th of July, that is why I call him firecracker.

  • 5 years ago

    Oh, you have done well!!! I can't wait to see this rose grow up and mature!! Perfect name, too!

    sharon2079 thanked rosecanadian
  • 5 years ago

    oops I missed the pink bud opening on firecracker. So I did not get a picture of that rose.

    But I did get one. This bud opened red not magenta......

    I just love how he has different colors.




  • 5 years ago

    Really? How cool!!! Usually different colors of roses on the same plant result from an aging bloom. Really unique!!