Hi!

It's a beautiful rose, whatever it is!

I am new to roses so probably won't be very helpful, but one thing I wonder is: when did your neighbor buy her house?

That would at least give a most recent date limit for the variety it could be.

I have the same rose and never knew her name! I dug it up from my Grandmother's garden. It was planted in 1950.

She reminds me of moonlight in paris but not 100%

Jackie’s questions lead me to believe a serious diagnostician is on the case, Sunny, so I think you would be well advised to collaborate with her.

@jacqueline9CA unfortunatley it was so overgrown and in poor health, there was no bush to see. the last picture posted was the bush shot. there were vines and weeds running wild. i had to snip strangling vines off the cuttings. it looked to be only three stems.

ill try to get a closer pic of the thorns.

it was blooming a week ago when i got the clippings so definitley a repeat bloomer.

Petal count was about 50.

white/plae pink blend with yellow center and yellow stamens.

Strong myrrh fragrance

Seemed to bloom in a cluster based on the picture. That really is all i could see of the plant.

at one time it was probably in full sun, but is now shaded by the vines and weeds. Not BS proof

The Master Gardener moved away seven years ago. She had an OGR in her front bed I believe is Mrs B R Cant. I wonder if the mystery rose is also an OGR or an Austin.

Ive been searching rose sites but am illuded by the yellow center

Granted maybe it would have more petal petals if it were in better health

Here is a pic of the thorns. I hope this helps! Maybe an alba?

OK, rose ID experts - the OP has posted more pics and more info above about this rose. Does anyone have any ID ideas?

Jackie

If it's an alba I don't think it would repeat.

Maybe Heritage or Scepter’d Isle? I do not have either of these, so i am going off pics alone to compare.

Just rwad that Heritage has few thorns. this is definitley NOT low thorn. Other than Scepter’d Isle, Im not sure what to guess. I have purused numerous websites and cant get any closer. Any ideas?

Hi @Sunny Mississippi 8a

I am no rose expert but I tried this:

I used Google Lens on one of your pics, and then eliminated the results that were thornless, climbers, as well as more recent than seven years ago.

I found this image from a Japanese website, supposedly this is DA Ancient Mariner (2011):

it seems similar to me, although other pictures of that rose elsewhere it does appear fuller.

Link to that page:

http://tg.air-nifty.com/rose/2018/07/post-2873.html

Might not be right, but it was a fun experiment to see what results artificial intelligence would come up with!

Other results that came up were: Gentle Hermione, Lady of the Lake and the Ambridge rose.

Depending on which one of your pictures I searched, the results were different.

For that picture where there are two roses and a bud, it gave me results for damascenas, but for the first two pics, only Austins.

roseseek, Christopher - any thoughts?

Jackie

Myrrh immediately makes me think Austin. There is an old one called Bow Bells that has an open form like that. But, if it hasn't been taken care of, the entire plant might look very different with plenty of water and nutrients.

@flowersaremusic z5 Eastern WA i think this one has too many petals to be Bow Bells. I counted about 40 petals and HMF says Bow Bells has 16-25 with mild fragrance. The myster rose has a strong fragrance. the growth habitat of the three stems was straight and ridged. Lots of thorns.

It so hard to find information on any Austins which are no longer in commerce.

@seasiderooftop Google Lens is so cool! thanks for the introduction. i researched the roses it matched but none seemed to be a fit based on fragrance and petal count.

Is Scepte’d Isle out? i thought it was a good guess??

@Sunny Mississippi 8a, Flowers was right when they told you that it is hard to know what this rose really could look like with proper care. Trying to compare photos of a neglected rose in poor health with photos of roses in their prime from the internet is pdobably not going to get you a solid ID.

Maybe i can just buy thethreecanewonder from my neighbor and try to figure it out next year. I just didntwant to offend her by asking. it very well might not make it through to next year if i dont at least ask to dig it up. i just didnt want her to judge meas acrazy neighbor. but then again iguess she could always say no.

Maybe start by complimenting them on it and asking questions about it, to scope out how they feel about the plant? They might offer it to you, or you could ask for cuttings after if not. A good compliment on someone's plant can go a long way IMO.