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Roses with Proliferation Recommendations

4 years ago
last modified: 4 years ago

Hi folks: I was wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a rose variety that will grow with consistent proliferations in the center? I’m a new rose gardener (since 2020), but I love the look of these roses and haven’t been able to find any in all of the online nurseries I’ve looked through. I’m in a dry mild climate so I’m okay with suggestions that are more

problematic in terms of disease/winter hardiness.

Here’s some pictures (not mine) of the look that I love. The first one is David Austin’s florist rose ”charity” and the second is a plant that I screenshotted off of a Japanese rose IG account, so I don’t know the variety name.

Also: even though I love the petal-packed look of the roses below, I’m fine with less-double suggestions with proliferation, if they exist. :~)

Thank you!

Edit** Also important: I am in zone 8b in southern california





Comments (30)

  • 4 years ago

    I only like small proliferations that might appear occasionally. Often, they can get large and awful looking. I've grown Evelyn for over 17 years, and she has had a few proliferations, so I would suppose she is slightly susceptible to them. My Rouge Royale has had one really ugly proliferation. Here are a few photos. If you want to try Evelyn, know that she can be hard to find. You can go on a waiting list at David Austin Roses. Diane

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    Madamoiselle Franziska Kruger is one you might like, Antique Rose Emporium carries her.

    Your photos are beautiful Diane. It does seem I saw vegetative Evelyn but not many.

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  • 4 years ago

    Thank you berrypie and Diane for the suggestions! Evelyn is beautiful but Mlle Franziska Kruger looks perfect to me. I think I will be ordering it!

  • 4 years ago

    Where are you located, Jennifer? MFK is an amazing rose here. You will love it. I got mine from Antique Rose Emporium too and RosePetals.

  • 4 years ago

    I‘m in the mountains (4200 ft) in southern california. So a dry summer and rain/snow in winter. We get a few days over 100 deg in the summer and a few early mornings at 25 deg in winter. I’m new to rose gardening but they must like my climate because all of my plants have done spectacularly so far and I’m loving this new hobby. :~)


    I just ordered MFK from ARE after looking at all of the HMF pictures. I hope it likes my garden!

  • 4 years ago

    In your location, I bet it will be fabulous, Jennifer. I think MFK handles heat better than about any Tea rose I have and they all love heat. Your weather sounds perfect.

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    If you were not in a warm climate, I would suggest Madame Hardy, whose green button eye is similar. I'm not sure how she would do in your climate.

  • 4 years ago

    The Prince also has the eye and the occasional proliferation. Diane




  • 4 years ago

    Great Western (a once blooming bourbon) often has proliferation in its first blooms, at least in Scandinavia where I live. I also get a few in Mme Isaac Pereire every year. It seems to be a phenomenon that affects certain early flowering roses.

  • 4 years ago

    The problem with suggesting roses is that I find myself wanting Madamoiselle Franziska Kruger now. She's exquisite.

  • 4 years ago

    Wow, Madame Hardy looks amazing too! I’m not sure what kind of roses I can grow that require winter chill… all of my roses right now are repeat blooming modern rose except for ’Marianne’ who I planted in fall. I’m hoping that it is cold enough for her… but we have a lot of apple and lilac farms within a few miles of my garden… which I think implies that it gets cold enough? like I said, newbie lol!

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    Apple and lilac farms nearby are promising. Marianne is a hybrid Gallica, so not necessarily indicative of how a Damask would do. Worth a try, though. "Mild dry climate" in the USA is extremely vague though, so makes it a bit tougher to give recommendations.

    Fun fact, apples and roses are related!

  • 4 years ago

    Ah, sorry! I’m zone 8b in the mountains in southern California. I’ll make an edit to the original post

  • 4 years ago

    I grow Madame Hardy in zone 8b in the Willamette Valley in Oregon. We get enough winter chill for her here. From mid October through April nights are between 40F and 30F. We get some hard freezes but that's very occasional and sometimes rare

  • 4 years ago

    Librarian- love your Madame Hardy! It’s gorgeous! I just bought one from High Country Roses this winter. I’m so excited for it.

  • 4 years ago

    It took mine a good 3 to 4 years to really take my breath away. It was worth the wait!

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    The climging rose ”Raspberry Cream Twirl” proliferates frequently in our near-desert zone.

  • 4 years ago

    RCT has some fragrance and delightful striped blooms.

  • 4 years ago

    The spray form of Cecile Brunner produces many flowers with proliferations.

  • 4 years ago

    That’s good to know—I’ve been eyeing raspberry cream twirl anyway… I love the striped roses!

  • 4 years ago

    My raspberry cream twirl also proliferates often here. Madame Hardy is in my short list.

  • 3 years ago

    Wondering if you have ordered Mlle Franziska Kruger? If so, how is she performing in your garden? I have similar weather to your area.


    Also did you consider Blumenschmidt? It’s a sport of MFK, also known for regular proliferation!

  • 3 years ago

    I just ordered Duc de Cambridge from All My Thyme. HMF says that it proliferates.

  • 3 years ago

    I don’t recall my raspberry cream twirl ever proliferates. But it is (I have 3) one of my favorate roses, even though it BS badly in summer. They just shrugs off the leaves and continues blooming. When weather cools off a little the beautiful leaves grow back. Julia Child and RCT are two truly repeating blooming roses for me

  • 3 years ago

    Zaid will often proliferate. Beautiful rose. Blooms a lot. Lovely fragrance.DwarfneyDwarfney Thorny.

  • 3 years ago

    This looks interesting.

  • 3 years ago

    Grace Rose Farms has some new roses coming in the spring (florist varieties) and several of them look to have regular proliferations. Look at 'Northanger Abbey' 'Stanley Abbey' and 'Whitby Abbey'.

  • 3 years ago

    RCT proliferates quite often here. I know I have some pics somewhere..