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Lighten or remove new stain on cedar siding?

4 years ago

Builder applied/sprayed two coats of Superdeck stain to our house (stone and tight-knot cedar) and the color is a lot darker and redder than our approved sample which was one lightly. brushed coat. We hate the color, and builder acknowledges the mistake. Now what?

We're afraid that sanding will remove the coating on the hot-dipped galvanized nails and also be hard to get into areas that abut stone facade.

Would a chemical stripper work? Bleach? What product would anyone suggest?

We wanted a rich honey-brown and have an ugly dark redwood. :(

Comments (27)

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    I've stripped and stained lots of decks, but never siding. This shows new stain being applied.


    Plenty of info available via a bit of searching and reading.




    LH On the Move thanked PPF.
  • 4 years ago

    Benjamin Moore says it's too soon to use their "Remove" product, so that's off the list. What else can we do? The color is so dark and red and I hate my dream home. :(

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    Whats the actual superdeck product? Is it the oil or waterbase and semi Trans or other

  • 4 years ago

    It's the Superdeck Modified-Oil Semi-Transparent, but applied with two coats. :( I'm so upset by how dark and red it is, and afraid that even a light sanding will remove the zinc from the galvanized nails. I've experimented with bleach and mineral spirits -- they did nothing.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    post a picture to see whats going on. will probably need to be stripped

    LH On the Move thanked Rockin' Fine Finish
  • 4 years ago

    Yes...do not consider sanding unless you want to add thousands of rust spots to the siding. I will also caution you that trying to remove the finish on the siding with a bleach or other remover may result in a mottled look when you reapply stain. I think your choices are: 1) live with it and hope it weathers nicely; or 2) stain it with a semi-transparent or opaque stain in a color similar to what you were imagining this would look like; or 3) paint it.

    LH On the Move thanked kudzu9
  • 4 years ago

    This is what it looks like. We wanted a much lighter color and much less red I guess we are going to see how it weathers. Here's the siding and the approved sample.



  • PRO
    4 years ago

    Let it weather for now. And then strip it and restain it

    LH On the Move thanked Rockin' Fine Finish
  • 4 years ago

    Thanks. Strip it with the Benjamin Moore "Remove" when it's weathered a bit?

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    Yes there others as well I'll sending you names

    LH On the Move thanked Rockin' Fine Finish
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    I know the color is not what you wanted, but I like it. However, since my house is painted red, with some black contrast walls, I may be biased.

    LH On the Move thanked kudzu9
  • 4 years ago

    Lol, that may be a slight bias. I know, everyone thinks it's fine, but we've always imagined it a honey brown, so seeing redwood is a shock.

  • 3 years ago

    basically the same thing happened with our builder and our cedar posts and cross beam on our porch, but they just say they could never have guaranteed a color (even though we have gotten their painter/stainer guy to admit they never should have used the stain color they did when we asked to keep it looking as natural and light as possible). they supposedly used an Old Masters wood stain and some kind of sealant.


    did you ever find a good method to remove the stain? our posts are still rough/raw and the trim at the bottom and corners is smooth so we are unsure how to handle the rough portions or what sanding technique would work best.

  • 3 years ago

    So, I originally posted this in Feb, 2022. Now, in August 2023 ,the stain is peeling, just as the manufacturer said it would with two coats. Still no good solution from anyone. It has gotten a little less red, but still darker and redder than I ever would have wanted. We're going to continue to let it age and peel and then lightly sand and try to add more brown to the newly exposed wood

  • 3 years ago

    Make sure you don't end up hitting the galvanized nail heads with the sander or you will have an even worse appearance when the nails rust. You might consider going over the deck with a nail set and setting at least some of the nails a bit deeper before using the sander.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Ugh what a nightmare. And why superdeck, isn’t that made for, well decks? At least Sherwin Williams has a different stain for decks and vertical surfaces. Sorry I have no solutions though, how frustrating. I assume your builder is helping?

  • 3 years ago

    I would try to pressure wash it. It should remove just a small bit of the outside down to the clean wood. I used this to get logs to lolooking nice after they fade. And should work for this

  • 3 years ago

    We're going to let it go another year to see how the color ends up fading too, then try to pressure wash and restain to our chosen (light brown) color.


  • 3 years ago

    " One option is to use a grinder. This is the best way to remove the stain of large, flat looks. Just make sure you reach 120 grit or higher and sand until the stain is gone. "


    Ronnie Jones What? A Grinder on Cedar Siding?

  • 3 years ago

    Yeah I don't think that would work very well either, maybe a soft wire wheel on it . But a ton of work and would be really dusty but maybe he knows how

  • 3 years ago

    This is question not comment - arent there strippers made for exterior deck stains? I used a deck wash once to clean a fence prior to re staining and even that took out a bit of color... although it wasnt completely or evenly removed.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    I do not mean to hijack your post, but it seems like a good place to add another example. We are dealing with this exact same issue. Bright red stain on brand new cedar siding after being VERY clear we did not want red at all costs. Our contractor used 2 coats the same day he put the boards up. Besides the ridiculously ugly color, I am unsure what problems we should anticipate, as I am reading there should only be 1 coat and that waiting for the wood to dry before putting a stain on is essential. I will post any solutions we try-hopefully that will help others.


    LH On the Move thanked green
  • 2 years ago

    Green, knowing how little console there was from other people's opinion on this, but the color of yours looks lovely compared to ours, and your home is absolutely gorgeous.

    Since that application about 1.5 years ago, our wood has started to peel very badly but everyone is saying it's just wood being wood. Now we have to somehow sand it down and restain it, but how to get it to the color we wanted and not the color we ended up with.

  • 2 years ago

    There were many tears when I saw my house too. The red is slowly fading, but it still has that redwood color in most lights. We're hoping it continues to wash out and then we can work in the honey-brown we wanted over a few decades. :(

  • 2 years ago

    Again - there are in fact deck and exterior wood stain strippers, why not just remove it? Or, if you have or can get some pieces you can experiment on - you might try a semi-transparent green stain over it. Green + red = brown.

  • 2 years ago

    Sorry Debbie - I missed your initial response. All our windows have black aluminum trim that we worry will be ruined by the chemicals, while other sections go up against our stone sections, so they can't get right up to those areas - a stone chimney and large section of the front of the house is stone.