yeah.. i wondered if someone didnt quite kill the plant they tried to dig out ...

id probably dig down.. snip out the green.. and round up the cuts to kill the roots that apparently didnt die last time you tried to kill it ...

just a drop on every cut ...

ken

Thank you! I will get it out of there for sure. i dont need any more vines to contend with.

good to have you back, ken!

These are shrubby Loniceras, not vines, if that’s any consolation.

Volunteer and weed are not mutually exclusive. Many plants are given both labels. A volunteer is any plant that is there but that you didn't put there. Whether or not a plant is a weed is your call, after you know what it is.

Lonicera mackii aka Lonnie Mack🤪

@floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK thanks it is a bit of consolation, but not much.... growing under osmanthus and vibernum. so not even a shrub would fit there. now that i see it on the invasive list, I will not replant somewhere else.

@Tiffany, purpleinopp Z8b Opp, AL lol. yes, I meant to convey - is this a good volunteer that i want to keep or a bad volunteer (weed) that i dont want to keep. trying to stay on top of the invasives and weeds this year. but i hate to unknowingly pluck a volunteer that i would actually want to transfer or let grow. I think i need to give up on the wild violets - I will have to just be ok with them and change their classification from weed to acceptable.... lol.

Totally reasonable approach. The violets are likely native, and host plants for some butterflies.

@Tiffany, purpleinopp Z8b Opp, AL thank you! knowing that they might bring butterflies makes me dislike them less! meanwhile I am still fighting the dreaded chameleon plant and other invasives....

Could it be Winter honeysuckle (Lonicera fragrantissima)? Very fragrant blooms in January/February. I bought one years ago and love its spicy aroma in the winter months (on a warm day it will release more fragrance). I found its fragrance on Kennesaw Mountain, GA. intoxicating when we used to hike it in winter - took a while to discover the source of the sweet smells and always wanted it in our landscape.

It reminds me of Spigelia marilandica.

Not Spigelia which has sessile leaves. Leaf tips are longer and acuminate like Lonicera mackii, unlike Lonicera fragrantissima. Sad that ecosystems get ruined by people growing Eurasian, invasive honeysuckles. Are you aware of the damage invasive honeysuckles cause h. c. mcdole?

Hi Jay 6a Chicago,

I know invasive plants are a big problem but I don't consider a plant sold at a nursery without some kind of invasive warning for the general buying public an issue. Winter honeysuckle is not that invasive compared to so many others. I find Kudzu the biggest problem but that Genie escaped its bottle decades ago so I am claiming innocence on the vine that ate the South.

Perhaps the nursery industry should just sell native plants only but I think that would be boring.

PS - I hate poison ivy but that is a native vine.

You should consider whether plants are invasive before growing them. Of course a vender wouldn't want buyers to know their plant for sale is invasive.. Just know that birds are eating your fragrantissima and expelling the seeds in natural ecosystems in your area. So you can satisfy your selfish need for fragrance, and to hell with the rest of the planet? If you have anymore suggestions that cast doubt on others ID'S try to have some scientific evidence to back it up next time!

Lonicera fragrantissima

https://landscapeplants.oregonstate.edu/plants/lonicera-fragrantissima#:~:text=Caution%3A%20Lonicera%20fragrantissima%2C%20as%20well,sping%20and/or%20January%20jasmine.

Go troll somewhere else.

Let's not all get our panties in a twist!! The potential invasiveness of the vast majority of exotic (non-native) species is extremely location dependent. A plant that may exhibit invasive tendencies in one area may be perfectly well behaved in another.

Lonicera fragrantissima is only a listed invasive in a mere handful of mostly southeastern states. It doesn't serve anyone to make a federal case out of growing it. And in such a rude and demeaning manner.