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Join the Alba and Moss Rose Share 2022!

4 years ago
last modified: 4 years ago

Happy spring, all you Alba and Moss rose lovers! My garden is about a month behind due to the record breaking cold and wet here in the Pacific Northwest, but a few of my Albas like Konigen von Danemark and Maiden’s Blush are blooming now. Yay! Please join the conversation and celebrate by sharing your photos of and experiences with these amazing OGRs. Carol

Maiden’s Blush

Konigen von Danemark


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  • 4 years ago

    Carol, the pink rose was James Galway above with Song of the Stars.

    portlandmysteryrose thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 4 years ago

    @Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR

    James Galway—Thank you! very pretty.

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    More Capitaine John Ingram.





    portlandmysteryrose thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 4 years ago

    Gads, that’s beautiful, Sheila! Thank you so much. CJI is one of my favorite Moss roses!

  • 4 years ago

    Ralph Moore’s ’Rougemoss’ from 1972.





    i dont imagine anyone still offers this rose, and that’s a shame, since its quite unique among the Mosses. That bright flame-vermillion is intense!

    portlandmysteryrose thanked User
  • 4 years ago

    @User

    Thank you, Paul! That’s a vibrant Moss! Ralph Moore really created some stunning reds. The bright, lipstick blooms and complementary green moss are a wonderful duo. Rougemoss is an unusual Moss in that it has high centered buds and opening blooms, like a HT—a striking surprise! Rougemoss looks like it has larger blooms and is a larger plant than Moore’s mini Scarlet Moss? How is its disease resistance? (This spring has, no doubt, been a real test!) I need to look up this one on HMF….

  • 4 years ago

    Wow, Paul, Rougemoss is so particularly beautiful!


    Had a nice conversation with a neighbor today. When talking about roses I realized that he is very familiar with OGRs. This is Celestial, a very elegant Alba (which alba isn't? haha). It used to be in the shade of his backyard and rarely bloomed. He moved it to the hell strip to get more sun and this year it's in full bloom. I had never heard of this rose before and was so happy to see it.



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    @Feiy (PNWZ8b/9a) Oh, I love that you found an OGR neighbor! A kindred spirit. 😊 Thank you for the shots of Celestial! There used to be someone who posted regularly on the forum named Celestial Rose (on the East Coast). She posted her pictures of Celeste/Celestial here and also on HMF. I don’t see R alba Celeste/Celestial grown very often these days. It is a lovely, lovely, delicate Alba! I am glad your neighbor has placed his out front and in the sun for all passersby to enjoy, including us through your photos. Maybe his plants will spread a bit and he’ll offer you a start. Carol

    PS Don’t forget to stop and smell the roses!

  • 4 years ago

    Thank you ALL so much for the gorgeous photos! 🙏 Keep ’em coming if you have more blooms. Tis the season. 😊

  • 4 years ago

    'Pélisson', a rarely seen Moss.

    Great fragrance, small blooms, suckers freely, but tough as nails, no disease, ever.




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  • 4 years ago

    Pedro Dot's 'Golden Moss' from 1932.




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    @User

    Oh, those are wonderful, very rare Mosses! It’s a pleasure to see them!! Peliisson: A healthy Moss in our region is a beautiful thing, and this spring has surely been a real trial for rose health. I wish I could smell the blooms! I am sticking my nose in all the OGRs that I can while the season lasts. Golden Moss is a an unusual one, a YELLOW moss! That must have been a satisying triumph for Dot. GM must have some Pernetiana in it. Is it remontant at all? How is the disease resistance this year? John PDX NEEDS to grow this rose! Maybe I do, too. Carol

  • 4 years ago

    @portlandmysteryrose 'Golden Moss' is very much a "novelty" rose, which is to say that the blooms and mossed buds are wonderful, but the plant itself is *ahem* "less than satisfactory". It is a tangle of tall (8 foot) canes that flop and tangle and cannot be tamed except by training and support. The foliage is sparse and unattractive, and very prone to ALL the diseases. And yet, my plant persists and gives me half a dozen beautiful blooms annually (no repeat). Yes, there is a lot of Tea and Pernetiana in its pedigree.

    Do I recommend it as a garden-worthy specimen rose?? Absolutely not! Is it a curious beast worth archiving for the sake of its novelty and rarity? Sure, but put it where you don't have to look at it every day.

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  • 4 years ago

    @User Thank you for the honest and helpful information! I think I’ll have to enjoy GM‘s amazing blooms through your photos since every spot in my tiny garden is very visible… and I can only legitimately foist gardenworthy specimens on my sister and her, also tiny, urban real estate. What a survivor GM is to lose its foliage to disease and yet offer blooms every season! If I had a space behind the garage or compost bins, I’d surely grow it for the color, the history and the novelty. I’m the kind of gardener whose bedtime reading includes opening HMF and searching photos and descriptions of rare and nearly extinct OGRs just to see what they are and what they look like. Carol

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    @Melissa Northern Italy zone 8 I am holding you accountable for this! You and your breathtaking William Lobb. I was outside today rearranging several things—and you know how that goes, one thing bumps another, bumps another,….—so that I can squeeze very thorny WL into my overcrowded beds and attempt to grow him like yours. Your lovely, lovely, languid, fragrant, mossy, mauve William Lobb! :-) Carol

  • 4 years ago

    My first blooms from Alba suaveolens





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  • 4 years ago

    Beautiful! Does she sucker a lot? I love albas but I can't afford suckers growing in my small garden, except in the hell strip that I can manage them easier. .

    portlandmysteryrose thanked Feiy (PNWZ8b/9a)
  • 4 years ago

    @Feiy (PNWZ8b/9a) I haven’t had it ling enough to know if it suckers a lot but I put her in a shady spot with a dry (in the summer) creek to her back and grass in front.

    If she suckers in the grass, they’ll get mowed and if goes to the creek, who cares?


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  • 4 years ago

    Salet bud

    Salet bud

    My beloved Treasure Trail, just before the roofers began working on the house and it got broken off

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  • 4 years ago

    @Roz OHzone 6 Oh those are lovely photos! That's such a bummer that your TT was broken :/


    Oh my, I had no idea Sauv. had such dark foliage! It makes the white of the pretty blooms really pop @oursteelers 8B PNW

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  • 4 years ago

    My Sauv in Alaska had different more typical Alba foliage. Oursteeler's plant looks different from the one I got.

    portlandmysteryrose thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 4 years ago

    Sheila mine is from High Country. What is wrong to your eye about the foliage?

    portlandmysteryrose thanked oursteelers 8B PNW
  • 4 years ago

    @oursteelers 8B PNW

    Fixing dinner and just took a break to read the forum. Ha, ha. What rose addiction? Here are a couple of quick pics for comparison with my Semi Plena’s foliage. As I recall, the two have near identical foliage. Older photo and 2 newer.





  • 4 years ago

    @Roz OHzone 6 Beautiful! Salet is one of my FAVORITE OGRs!! Roofing loss of TT bud…I have no words. Wailing in mourning with you. I’m glad you got a photo of the wonderful mossy bud cluster! Wishing you more of those ASAP!

  • 4 years ago

    I wonder if our weird spring could be responsible for my foliage?

    portlandmysteryrose thanked oursteelers 8B PNW
  • 4 years ago

    Maybe we should ask the opinion of @User

    portlandmysteryrose thanked Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
  • 4 years ago

    Oursteelers, your foliage looks like the photo on HMF. I might have gotten my Alaskan plant from HCRs too. I just remember it as a perfect plant and the foliage having an almost gray green look that was so special and perfect. Yours looked darker than I remember.

    I also remember a lovely rose that was white with a hint of pink in the bud that I saw in a public space I always yearned to find. It might have been Marie Bugnet. That was another perfect rose. No label of course.

    portlandmysteryrose thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 4 years ago

    @oursteelers 8B PNW

    I agree your Suavolens foliage looks fine. I think it just looks a bit more rugose and deeply colored because it is soaking wet…like everything else around here. Thank you for your photos of the blooms of this wonderful Alba variety! It’s odd to know that 90-95% of people not only don’t grow OGRs but have never even heard of them. Fortunately, here we are keeping centuries old roses alive and well! 🙌 to all of us!

  • 4 years ago

    I just got blush hip so I guess now I have an Alba! Smiley face😊

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    Both Maiden’s Blush and Salet are still pumping out post torrential rainstorm buds! I love these two OGRs!! I still haven’t retied my MB to the fence, and I need to go out and remove her browned flowers, but she just leans her thorny self into the garden and blooms and blooms. I am reminded why I always recommend her to those wanting to grow an OGR. Salet is also a bloom machine, and a remontant one at that! Yes, I had to strip the rain rotted blooms, but a gazillion fresh ones are coming.

    MB





    Salet









  • 4 years ago

    @Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley

    CONGRATULATIONS! 🎉 BH is lovely. Welcome to the Alba Club! 😊

  • 4 years ago

    @portlandmysteryrose Your yard still looks so wonderful even with MB feeling extremely casual, lol. I hope mine is wonderful like yours one day. But it's a very dry climate here, so I'm sure there's going to be some differences.

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  • 4 years ago

    @Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b) Thank you so much! My garden is a journey, for sure. Ha, ha. I look forward to seeing lots of photos of your beautiful cottage garden! I’m guessing we’ll have lots of stories to share in the years to come. 😊

  • 4 years ago

    @portlandmysteryrose old garden roses give me a romantic feel moderns do not. don’t get me wrong, I love all my roses but the ogr’s have such a panache…plus I always get indignant when people are so stubborn about not wanting one because they aren’t recurrent.

    I understand when you have a small yard but still…you can find room for one! And if you have a big yard there is no excuse!

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    Madame Plantier from ARE. Absolutely delicious true, old rose fragrance. Full, sweet, and enveloping. Nicely hardy. Rabbits loved giving her a trim. Minimal prickles. Lovely foliage.

    Steven












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  • 4 years ago

    Gabrielle Noyelle; this moss rose has prickly moss, pleasantly scented blooms, and a very modern, tea-rose inspired shape to the blooms due to its heritage. Gorgeous soft apricot fading quickly to white in strong sunshine and heat.

    I believe she's about four years old and started as a band from RVR. Repeats lightly so far in autumn with scattered blooms after primary spring flush. Will get a little mildew and black spot. Seems to have gained some hardiness with establishment. 

    The canes grow quite lengthy and could be tied to supports. Blooms all along leaf axils along the horizontal plane very well. Gets lovely red-orange mossed/prickly hips. 

    Steven

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  • 4 years ago

    Beautiful photos, everyone! 😍

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    Crested Moss - unfortunately not mine but in a friends garden - next on my list!


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  • 4 years ago

    I don't think I shared these yet this year: Henri Martin and William Lobb. HM is one of my favorites, carefree, healthy, nice shape to the bush. The colour is much darker in reality, it's difficult to photograph with my cell phone camera.


    William Lobb has less than graceful growth so far, but I love the buds and blooms!



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  • 4 years ago

    Ok guys. Where does Veilchenblau go?

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  • 4 years ago

    @oursteelers 8B PNW we can do a rambler/climber thread :)

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    @MiGreenThumb (Z5b S.Michigan/Sunset 41) Elevation: 1091 feet

    Beautiful MP and GN! Don’t you love MP’s ruffly sepals? GN is a rarity! It is lovely to see her peachy photos.

    @Westminster_7NYC

    That’s a beautiful photo of Crested Moss! I think CM is on almost everybody’s list. Ha, ha. Maybe your friend can share a start. CM never seems to be in stock ANYWHERE.

    @MetteBee_Copenhagen8b

    I love your HM and WL photos—absolutely enchanting! I wish I had a place for HM. I have a baby WL that I am trying to decide where to plant. As you said, his growth is a bit unmanageable and a bit untidy, but oh those mauve blooms and fragrance! What are the lacy white flowers in the HM photo?

  • 4 years ago

    Thank you Carol, I wish I had a better camera for rose photography, though. I think the white flowers are Anthriscus Sylvestris, Cow Parsley. Invasive in the Us, native to . I let it run wild where it doesn't hurt any roses :)

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  • 4 years ago

    Thank you! It is really pretty with your rose blossoms.

  • 4 years ago

    I do have William Lobb too, but he's only two years old. I don't have any great shots of him... Yet!

    His moss is soft, sticky, and scented deliciously to me of peppery balsam. His prickles are nothing short of fierce and growth habit... Waywardly and like an octopus so far. The blooms range in shades of crimson pink, slate purple, and mauve. Wonderful true rose, old rose bloom scent.

    Steven

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  • 4 years ago

    @MiGreenThumb (Z5b S.Michigan/Sunset 41) Elevation: 1091 feet Your WL is looking great! Mine is just a new, unverified ID band. I envy the blooms of your baby WL! I am not 100% sure I have a good spot for my WL, but I want to give placement a shot since I am rearranging my garden for the long haul, and I so look forward to WL’s velvety mauve historic blooms, and now is the time to squeeze him in if I can. You seem to have a LOT of room in your garden. I envy that, too!

  • 4 years ago

    @portlandmysteryrose aww, thanks. There is a good bit of room where I am at presently (rural, 1.0+/- acre) and to have any more space simply means carving out new space from the dreadful lawn (I hate lawns for several reasons, hehe). It's still early in the process, but I've finally found a home that I've put an offer in on and things are moving forward: this home is rural and on over 2 acres. Sure, a lot is wooded (love my forests), but there is a bunch of great, sunny space for gardens and my roses. No lie, I'm terrified, but things will work out just fine.

    You know; I didn't know that Gabrielle Noyelle was a rarer moss! I do love her soft apricot blooms, and plant habit aside, I figure the blooms are as close as I'll ever get to having 'Safrano' in the garden here in the North! 


    Steven

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  • 4 years ago

    Thanks for sharing. I love all of your gorgeous roses.

    oursteelers, you gave her a perfect spot to grow!

    I think OGRs are hard to be seen in the gardens mostly because people don't know where to buy them. Box stores have body bags or new varieties, and garden centers only sell popular/famous roses. It's not their fault, but it is really a problem that not many gardeners bother to pick OGRs online for a rose or two, not to mention the sky-high shipping cost.


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  • 4 years ago

    @MiGreenThumb (Z5b S.Michigan/Sunset 41) Elevation: 1091 feet A move to a home on a big wooded lot with plenty of sun and room for roses—that sounds perfect! Let us know when it’s time to take the plunge, and we’ll cheer you on.

  • 4 years ago

    @Feiy (PNWZ8b/9a) Those are good points. There are expensive specialty appliance stores around here that homeowners always seem to know about. Custom cabinetry, countertop and paint stores and online lighting stores—homeowners seem to know about these, too, but for some reason garden plants are still behind the door. Plants are invaluable to the planet, the neighborhood and our yards. They are both an aesthetic and a practical outdoor living feature, but I think, at least in the US, design and lifestyle philosophies continue to miss the boat. If a specialty OGR (or lilac or rhododendron or camellia, etc.) costs $50-$60 dollars but will live for 100 years, that’s a good investment. With good care and luck, my appliances might last 20 years, but my roses will outlive me! Carol