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Rugosa Rose Share 2022

4 years ago
last modified: 4 years ago

I don’t grow many, in spite of the fact that I live in the Pacific NW where EVERYBODY grows Rugosas. They really thrive here! But I’d love to see photos of all the Rugosas and Rugosa Hybrids that you are growing across the US and in other countries. I know the Canadians on the forum have some beautiful specimens! Please share your photos of and experiences with your Rugosas if you have a few minutes to post. This thorny but delightful class of roses deserves some attention! Carol

Basye’s Purple


Blanc Double de Coubert




Comments (62)

  • 4 years ago

    @mmmm12COzone5

    Your Robusta is a real bright spot! Thank you for the photo. Even when Rugosas get flattened by snow or heavy rain, they retain their oh-so-graceful horizontal lines. Yours is beautiful!

    @Roz OHzone 6

    Wow! Your Cape Diamond is a magnificent specimen! I love that its been so healthy for you. Rugosas tend to be super healthy in my area too, even this spring when everything is blackspotting from unprecedented rain.

  • 4 years ago

    This is an un-named Rugosa hybrid from 2008 (I think): (R. foliolosa X Little Chief) X Belle Poitvine.

    Its a very graceful arching shrub with fern-like foliage, completely disease free, thrives with zero care - not even water. Blooms only last 1-2 days but they fall cleanly. Nice Clove scent.



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    @User

    What a beautiful Rugosa! Great heritage, too: R foliolosa was used in the line of my much loved Basye’s Purple, and Belle Poitevine is a perfect combination of antique elegance and Rugosa durability. I can see R foliolosa’s contribution to the fine, airy foliage on your cultivar. I looked up R Moore’s Little Chief which, like so many of his introductions, is a miniature. How large does your Rugosa grow? Do you feel LC contributed to size limitations and bush form or more to bloom type/color? I LOVE the elongated buds on your cultivar! Rugosa buds and R foliolosa buds are two of my favorites. Carol

  • 4 years ago

    Here are some Basye’s Purple buds for comparison.




  • 4 years ago

    @portlandmysteryrose Thanks, Carol. Its a very interesting plant. Its growing in near total shade, so I expect it would flower more in a better location. I've never propagated it, so who knows what its capable of. And yes - R. foliolosa is a major contributor to the plant's growth habit and foliage style.

    I have no idea if 'Little Chief' has contributed significantly to the look/style of this hybrid. You see, whenever you make a first generation hybrid with R. foliolosa, a lots of the seedlings bear resemblance to 'Basye's Purple' and/or 'Ann Endt'. It doesn't matter what you put on foliolosa, you will get some seedlings that look a lot like 'Basye's Purple'! In this case, the seed parent ("Purple Folio-Chief") looked like 'Basye's Purple'. There was nothing in its appearance that would indicate 'Little Chief' had been its parent. So, no - I can't say that 'Little Chief' has contributed any obvious influence on the style of this plant. Its genes are probably lurking beneath the surface, but you'd only find out by growing some seedlings from it.

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  • 4 years ago

    That’s fascinating! There’s a detective and discovery element to rose breeding that is really intriguing. Like a good mystery. Genetics hiding in the shadows. Other influences on the surface. Multiple possibilities. Surprise endings!

  • 4 years ago

    If I had a larger garden, I’d grow many more Rugosas! I don’t have much to offer in the way of photos since my collection is really just a pair. I can say that in our absolutely saturated spring weather, Blanc Double de Coubert is holding up pretty well for a white rose. Basye’s Purple loses its petals in the showers, but they fall cleanly. And Basye’s P makes so gosh darn many blooms, more are always coming along!

    BDdC




  • 4 years ago

    Just in case you feel badly about not being able to grow 'Eugene de Beauharnais', I should note that this alkaline environment is where Rugosas go to die. Literally. DIE. The ONLY Rugosa X that flourishes here is 'White Surprise', which I believe is X'd with R. bracteata:


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  • 4 years ago

    Thank you for the commiseration! Right rose, right place. Sigh. It will make my future trips to CA exciting, though. Someday, I’m going to drag my family down there just to see all the roses that I can’t grow. White Surprise is beautiful and totally unfamiliar to me. I am looking it up on HMF right now….Carol

  • 4 years ago

    Oh boy! I can't wait to share some pictures in this lovely thread. Aside from certain varieties attracting girdlers, I adore the toughness and scent of the Rugosa roses.

    I'm not sure if I have pics of everyone, but in my current collection I have:

    Agnes (baby from HCR, not above 6" yet. One year old)

    Mrs. Anthony Waterer

    Therese Bugnet

    Conrad Ferdinand Meyer (not very Rugosa, but it's good and hardy here)

    Sarah Van Fleet

    Mary Manners

    Basye's Purple

    Hansa (one year old)

    Roseraie de l'Hay (new this spring from David Austin Roses)


    They do quite well here overall; the soil doesn't induce chlorosis, they love my cold winters and generally abundant precipitation. They would make a good informal hedge for screening in these parts.


    Steven

    portlandmysteryrose thanked MiGreenThumb (Z5b S.Michigan/Sunset 41) Elevation: 1091 feet
  • 4 years ago

    Let's see... Therese, Mary, Sarah, and Mrs. Anthony Waterer here...

    Steven

  • 4 years ago

    Basye's Purple

    I do not have any pics yet of Agnes, Hansa, Conrad Ferdinand Meyer, or Roseraie de l'Hay 

    Steven

    portlandmysteryrose thanked MiGreenThumb (Z5b S.Michigan/Sunset 41) Elevation: 1091 feet
  • 4 years ago
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    @MiGreenThumb (Z5b S.Michigan/Sunset 41) Elevation: 1091 feet Those are beautiful Rugosas! What a diverse collection. Don’t you love the way they arch gracefully when allowed the space? I have to keep mine pruned tighter, unfortunately. Tiny garden. Tiny walkways. Thorny plants. You grow one of my favs—Basye’s Purple. I look forward to seeing the rest of your Rugosa gang!

  • 4 years ago

    I know I've posted it but I can't help it. Here's the real charm of Linda Campbell: The blossom blast!



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    @Feiy (PNWZ8b/9a) Wow! The blossom blast is magnificent! Armfuls of bright red blooms. Her color reminds me of Blaze, which my grandfather grew and I grew to honor him at my last garden.

  • 4 years ago

    My beloved Wild Edric is going into his second year in my garden. Last year he did extremely well in our sweltering summer heat.

    This year the first flush was lovely:



    His second flush is now under way, but unfortunately this time around all of the blooms look like this:


    I've never had proliferation like this. We haven't had any big temperature swings, just gradually hotter as usual. Too much nitrogen perhaps?

    I still love this rose, just looking forward to seeing normal blooms again! Fragrance is amazing in spite of it all.

    I have a couple more rugosas, they took a break between flushes and are gull of buds again. I'll post here when they bloom.

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  • 4 years ago

    Oh my yes. I enjoy it when they can fountain elegantly.


    Here is Conrad Ferdinand Meyer! Now he has an exceptional and rich true old rose scent too. 

    Steven

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  • 4 years ago

    @seasiderooftop I definitely think weather plays into proliferation. My Maid Marion doesn’t usually have it and this year it has quite a few. Since I’m not a fan I’ll be glad when it is gone

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    @seasiderooftop

    @MiGreenThumb (Z5b S.Michigan/Sunset 41) Elevation: 1091 feet

    Beautiful photos of two beautiful Rugosas! Thank you. I love the diversity of cultivars being posted. I am getting weather related proliferation this year, but sometimes a rose will proliferate for reasons beyond my discovery. Then it just returns to normal, also for reasons beyond my discovery. Some roses, like Spray Cecile Brunner, seem to randomly proliferate off and on every year.

  • 4 years ago

    Early this morning I checked to see if BDdC's flowers had opened yet... Almost there!


    As you can see in the pic, I am not the only one in the garden who's looking forward to their opening!


    @MiGreenThumb (Z5b S.Michigan/Sunset 41) Elevation: 1091 feet

    Your CFM looks flawless! I had read some reviews saying he was one of the less healthy rugosas, which would be a problem since you can't spray rugosas with anything, even neem.

    But looking at your pics, the blooms are fantastic and the foliage looks spotless... I may have to revise my opinion. How has his health been for you?

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    @seasiderooftop I love BdDC’s long, satiny, unfurling buds, don’t you? They are some of the most elegant rose buds in my opinion. And those big snow white booms with their delicious spicy-rose fragrance. I can feel your anticipation! :-) My BdDC is still unfurling, too, and is awaiting its move from pot to garden bed as I finish prepping its place. Its foliage is so clean and green. Zero blackspot!





  • 4 years ago

    Portland Carol, I think those of us in the wet part of the PNW should give an update of the healthiest roses in wet weather. There are some clear winners for me this year for blackspot free foliage as well as botrytis resistant blooms. This spring has been a definite test.

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  • 4 years ago

    librarian I'm thinking the same thing and want to make a list for it. That list won't be long. I'm very interested in which roses are the winners in the PNW gardens this year.

    portlandmysteryrose thanked Feiy (PNWZ8b/9a)
  • 4 years ago



    MARIE BUGNET is usually my first and last rose to bloom every year. She loads herself with beautiful white blooms which smell spicy and even the crinkly green foliage makes me happy! I am in Chicagoland zone 5.

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  • 4 years ago

    @vickysgarden Your MB is gorgeous! She should be more widely grown! I don’t know why I’ve never tried her, the rare Bugnet. I love the fullness of her bright, white blooms against the crinkly green foliage that makes us both so happy! Thank you for posting her photos! Carol

  • 4 years ago

    @librarian_gardner_8b_pnw

    @Feiy (PNWZ8b/9a)

    I 100% agree! The forum needs a PNW disease resistance thread. This spring has been the trial of all fungal trials! I have been taking notes, too. Years ago, I eliminated all but a few disease prone roses, but this spring, I can see differences in how even those selections handled solid weeks of wet.

  • 4 years ago

    Stunning rose, Vicky!

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  • 4 years ago

    Rotes Phänomen (Red Phenomenon) by Karl Baum


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  • 4 years ago

    Very cool @MetteBee_Copenhagen8b !

    It's a very pretty bloom, I love the reddish color of the parts at the center, it gives the flower a very distinctive look. She's beautiful, thanks for sharing!

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  • 4 years ago

    @MetteBee_Copenhagen8b Thank you! What a vibrant Rugosa! It reminds me of a Purple Pavement bloom…but red. I have never seen, or even heard of, this beautiful variety. I am looking it up on HMF….

  • 4 years ago

    Found more pictures of my Mrs. Anthony Waterer!

    She smells so good when she first opens.


    Steven

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  • 4 years ago


    Frau Dagmar Hartopp


    Snow Pavement- first bloom for this one. I think this is its 3rd summer.


    portlandmysteryrose thanked cab84
  • 4 years ago

    Oh how I wish I could touch those lamb's ears.

    portlandmysteryrose thanked Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
  • 4 years ago

    😂 They are very soft. And seed alot! I moved them from a differrent area a few years ago and I’m still removing a million seedlings in the original spot.

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  • 4 years ago

    @cab84 Fru D is an all around great rose! And the Pavement series is really nice and compact with great blooms. Snow Pavement is a particularly ethereal one! Thank you for the photos! Seconding @Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)’s ”I wanna pet the fuzzy lambs ears!” I need to find a spot for some in my garden. Carol

  • 4 years ago

    @vickysgarden Your Marie Bugnet is absolutely stunning! What a lovely contrast with the red buds and bright white blooms! I am obsessed.

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  • 4 years ago

    Polareis



    A newer one for me, Lotty’s Love, aka Sniffer - it’s a shorty, very fragrant, good rebloom




    I love the buds!

    portlandmysteryrose thanked Dingo2001 - Z5 Chicagoland
  • 4 years ago

    Snow Pavement, this one is a rugosa, correct? Smells heavenly



    portlandmysteryrose thanked L Clark (zone 4 WY)
  • 4 years ago

    I love Snow Pavement L Clark! That is it.

    portlandmysteryrose thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
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    Thank you, @Dingo2001 - Z5 Chicagoland and @L Clark (zone 4 WY)! I am looking up Lotty’s Love. It sounds wonderful! And it is new to me. Snow Pavement is such an ethereal Rugosa! I love the smaller Rugosas that you are posting. A good size for urban gardens and others where one can’t squeeze in Hansa! Carol

  • 4 years ago

    @Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR @L Clark (zone 4 WY) @cab84

    Those of you who grow Snow Pavement, could you please comment on how the blooms hold up in the summer? My snow Pavement died due to planting too late and I never saw blooms. Looking to get a new one in the fall but I wonder if the blooms fry easily?

    Blanc Double de Coubert is a healthy plant here, and I love his delicate petals, but since June the blooms are frying before they are even fully open. I'd rather not get another that does this quite so bad.

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  • 4 years ago

    I couldn't identify this rose growing in the garden at La Guardia Place in Greenwich Village. Later I decided it was probably 'Henry Hudson'. It makes a very satisfying rounded bush, not all that apparent in this photo, taken through a fence on May 18, 2022. But it looked lovely in the garden, planted with historic and modern irises in full bloom.


    This is a labeled Henry Hudson at the Brooklyn Botanic Garden on May 24, note the distinctive buds


    LaGuardia Place on May 18:


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  • 4 years ago

    Seaside, I so love my rugoses. I can't really say I notice they burn up in heat any more than my my other roses. My garden is so large I don't worry about every rose looking perfect at the same time. Your pots are a different matter.

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  • 4 years ago

    @seasiderooftop I haven’t noticed snow pavement’s blooms turning crispy, but this is its first summer blooming. We have had quite a few 90 degree days so far and the blooms seem ok. They don’t last very long on thr bush though.


    I’m in zone 6 (southeast Michigan).

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  • 4 years ago

    I had no idea. I generally go into Manhattan several times a week, but in recent years, especially since COVID, just to Union Square Greenmarket and back. Not very far away from the Greenmarket is this fantastic little community garden now called LaGuardia Corner Garden (it used to be further down the block):

    Photographer, Joe O'Connell,who lives nearby, used to post frequently on this forum as "LaBrea." He is an active member, apparently, and has photographed it beautifully.

    http://www.laguardiacornergarden.org/wp/

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  • 4 years ago

    Snow Pavement is all right. Holds up well, but it is not hot where I live. Like cab74 said, the blossoms really only last a day which is a massive bummer. I will probably move it to a less prominent spot because of that. Otherwise I love it. bees love it too




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  • 4 years ago

    Thank you for the feedback @Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR @cab84 and @L Clark (zone 4 WY) ! I just love the colors on Snow Pavement, I will get her again and hope her petals will hold up to the heat here. The bloom color is so unique and beautiful.

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    My one and and only ruguosa. Very nice fragrance. Though not much flowers.

    Roseraie de l'Hay (though I wonder if it's Hansa)



    Back ground is Betty Corning and Ville de Lyon clematis




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  • 4 years ago

    Beautiful, Bob. My RdlHay is deeper colored than that. It's dark so I can't take a photo tonight.

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