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Do you always deadhead

4 years ago

I've been deadheading as the blooms fade. I know deadheading at least refocus the energy but noticed on quite a few of them which I haven't gotten around to deadheading, they already have a new -shoot- regardless of it being deadheaded yet.


I'm in year 4/5 of growing so no clue....as I've always deadheaded. This would be the 1st time I've picked up on new shoots regardless if if had not been pruned after the 1st flush

Comments (25)

  • 4 years ago

    I try to deadhead as much as I can, I feel everthing looks better and I get better rebloom if I do.

    This year I’m doing it because blooms are soggy and balling but normally it is my favorite garden chore. I like to walk among the garden with the animals, feeling the sun on my skin, inhaling the sweet scent of the garden and listening to the hum of insect activity

  • 4 years ago

    Idk really, I always thought deadheading flowers was to prevent seed production, because going to seed makes plants stop producing new flowers. However, if it's not a variety of rose that sets seed (hips), I'm not sure why it would make a difference.

  • 4 years ago

    For me, it depends on the rose. I will get very little repeat with new dawn if I do not deadhead. Other roses are not so picky, But many are unattractive if I don't deadhead. Especially those that become huge . wads of toilet paper at the tips. I have grown to appreciate And understand the term self cleaning roses.

  • 4 years ago

    I always do. I just think that it makes everything look tidy


  • 4 years ago
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    I'm waiting to see if someone says I don't do a thing until late summer/early fall, when it get's too large and it still blooms regardless if I touch them or not.

    I don't own any KO's but in seeing my neighbors, the KO's are pretty maintence free. Ugly blooms but again, it depends on the eye/

  • 4 years ago

    Last year from the spring fushing seeing how it easily grew 30-36.....+, I cut back hard for the second flush. I cut back too hard as the second flush wasn't really another 3'. So I'm learning...


    This year, I'm just cutting to shape/direction. Not even counting leafs

  • 4 years ago
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    General rule: Dead head to get maximum quality and quantity of blooms.

    Moses

  • 4 years ago

    I don't deadhead with any promptness or speed. I take a lot of cuttings and that is when the plant gets cut back some. It takes much time to get around to all of them. Some I leave to form hips so I can enjoy hips and also to grow some from seed.

  • 4 years ago
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    Vaporvac - I've never had rebloom on my New Dawn and I never deadhead either. Mine is growing in less than full sun, so I always blamed the lack of rebloom on that. This year New Dawn has been very vigorous. I don't train it on a trellis or arbor, which I would love to do, but it's parked on a 4ft fence with other climbers and vines. This year it the top blooms are so high. They shot up higher than my tall Lilacs that are behind it. I'd have to get a ladder to deadhead it. [g]


    I normally deadhead religiously, believing I get more rebloom. I haven't done much of that yet, my first flush is coming to an end soon and I probably should have started already.

  • 4 years ago

    I do not deadhead as much as I would like. I agree it makes everything look neater. I too get more blooms anyway.

  • 4 years ago

    I grow mainly reblooming roses, so I always deadhead. And as Ben said, not just deadhead, but down to a 5 leaflet for stronger new growth. I also don't want my roses to get ultra-tall. I'm definitely in the deadhead camp. As Erasmus said, for my rare roses I'm making cuttings of, the cuttings are the deaheading (preferably with a heel from a previous deadheading). My most extreme recent example of delayed bloom due to failure to deadhead was with Peach Swirl, who had a fabulous first flush, but I neglected deadheading, and it formed monster hips. I finally deadheaded and it sat there for well over a month before finally showing some new growth this past week.

  • 4 years ago

    I have mild winter, so I do my major pruning of New Dawn after its first flush (usually in July). I remove about 1/3 - 1/2 of the plant material and retie it on the supporters. In early spring I only "deadhead" the overwinter hips. Mine is also in part shade, probably gets less than 4hrs sun, but it does get a smaller flush in late summer/fall.

  • 4 years ago
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    I'm going to have to get busy deadheading New Dawn and see what I end up with. Mine just started blooming, so I'll be right on time. I always deadhead back to a five leaflet too.

  • 4 years ago

    o, how I wish I could dead-head! but I don't have time,and it's so hot and miserable this year-has been since about may 23rd-that I can't spend much time outdoors. I'll go out there to water, hopefully, but very late,and will only be doing that...

  • 4 years ago

    I always deadhead because of reblooms and appearance as many already mentioned but i don’t loose sleep over it if i forget to.

  • 3 years ago

    nope, not after the season begings to warm into summer. The plants stop growing new growth so theres nothing for the thrips to attack. I wait until the cooler fall weather then spray the horticultural oil and cut the plants back. The plants just coast through the heat enjoying the mulch and making the fruits. I save water during the summer.

  • 3 years ago
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    I do as much as I can.

  • 3 years ago

    @prairiemoon2 z6b MA, I wouldnt go through hthe trouble of cuting to the 5leaf for NewDAwn and whesshes so vigorous. Just lop off the dead ones and cut back the laterals.

  • 3 years ago

    I used to always deadhead because I enjoyed a pretty garden, but I also had the idea that the fallen petals and leaves would enrich the soil. I look forward to doing that again if/when my roses bloom in the spring/summer.

  • 3 years ago

    Always. Diane

  • 3 years ago

    I've noticed my Kateryna hedge re-blooms whether I deadhead or not, but if I don't deadhead the second flush is delayed. I've played around with it to see if I can avoid the Japanese beetles but they coincide with the second flush either way.


    I don't deadhead my neighbor's Knock Outs and they still bloom all summer...but that may not mean anything for other roses!

  • 3 years ago
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    VaporVac - Thanks for that tip. I did deadhead this year and it made no difference at all, I didn't get rebloom. But my New Dawn rose is not growing in all day sun, just 5hrs, so I think that is more the reason I don't get rebloom. Your tip will make the job easier, there were a LOT of flowers on it this year and some of them were over my head and even on a step stool I had to reach to get the top middle and I was afraid I was going to fall into it. [g] Not a good idea, the thorns on that are significant.

  • 3 years ago

    Prairiemoon, I grew several New Roses over the years, all from David Austin (they were offered at the time). Every one of them was a once bloomer and grew in full sun during our hot, sunny summers. After a little checking, I came to conclude that my New Dawns had reverted to Dr W Van Fleet, a once bloomer, that New Dawn sported from originally. Sports do revert. I wonder if that's the problem with your New Dawn, not lack of sun. Mine certainly didn't lack sun, yet they were all once bloomers. Diane

  • 3 years ago
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    I just lost my post. I'll give it a second try...

    Thank you Diane for that interesting information. Excuse any dumb questions I have, but I know nothing about reverting. I thought a rose could only revert if it had a different root stock that it was drafted onto, no? I don't even remember if New Dawn is grafted or own root or what mine was.

    I've been so happy with my New Dawn that rebloom would have been icing on the cake. It's been so healthy for me for years and just about indestructible. Can you tell from a photo if a bloom looks more like an actual New Dawn or a Dr W Van Fleet?



    OH....and actually, I have TWO roses on that fence. One is Penelope and I'm not sure if that photo is of New Dawn or Penelope. I'll have to go through more photos and compare. I'll come back and post photos of both when I have a chance.

    Update: Okay, I couldn't let it go...lol. I just found a photo that I know is New Dawn because the foliage is shiny and Penlope doesn't have shiny leaves. It's a little confusing because I also have 'Mandarin Orange' Honeysuckle on that fence too. Penelope I believe is a little smaller, blooms about a week or so earlier and has a noticeable yellow center when open and when just starting to open looks a little on the Apricot side. New Dawn looks more pink.