I agree with MM. Your options are large and Ive never lost a plant to winter even with a smaller bush.M

Palatine shipped bare root grafted roses in the Fall and they did well here.

ARE used to ship bareroots in late fall and early spring. I don't think they still do that. A fair number of people used to ship bareroots in the fall. They aren't leftovers from spring, but the newly dug roses that haven't hit cold storage yet.

Ah, you learn something new every day!

I was wondering if that was what Palatine did. Thanks for the info. I like Fall planting because the soil stays warm for quite some time here so the roots grow and establish over the winter. When I get OR roses in the Spring, I have to coddle them for a while before transplanting them out.

Vapor, I do the same. I am lucky enough to be driving distance from HCR, and I pick up my bands early, maybe late March, and pot them up right away. Then I do the fun inside/outside shuffle with them every day as the weather allows. By the time the weather is good enough to plant them out permanently, they've gotten quite a bit bigger. It seems to be working well enough so far this way.

Antique Rose Emporium ships bareroot roses including Teas on their own roots to Oregon only in January. It surprised me because they shipped potted roses to me in Alaska in Spring, and most States I think year round, except the hottest months.

Palatine used to ship bare roots to the west coast in November, and they were freshly dug for that year. They recently discontinued that. It was much better for us on the west coast, rather than waiting until March for their bare roots nowadays, since March is pushing it for planting bare roots here. Magpie had the right idea with her concern though, in that a lot of vendors will sell bare roots well into the summer, which were dug the previous fall. I've only purchased potted roses from ARE.

ARE usually only sells potted, Susan. I don't know why Oregon is singled out for the bare root in January only.

That's too bad Palatine stopped the Fall delivery. That could have spread the work out more smoothly too, instead of the Spring rush only. Maybe it is a staffing shortage like so many businesses these days.

Peter Schneider only ships in (LATE) fall as well--sometimes it's been so late in the year I've had to nurse plants over winter indoors or in a pot in the garage. Might be better to drive out and get them early.

I also live in zone 7b and would love to plant in the fall instead! But I want to only plant own-root, which means shipped, and all the own-root nurseries except ARE only ship in spring. My favorite is Roses Unlimited but yeah... spring only sadly.

High Country Roses ships March through December, @summercloud -- NC zone 7b

Sheila, it seems as if Palatine discontinuing fall shipping happened just pre-COVID, and sort of coincided with their two year experiment with the Austins. My last November shipment was Nov 2019, and I didn't order again from them until this winter, for March 2022 delivery. I had no idea ARE ever did bare roots until reading this thread... seems weird for an own-root nursery!

Summercloud, I have received roses from Roses Unlimited in October. You'd think that being so close, they would be willing to send them to you then. I believe their official line is that they stop shipments in November. Might be worth checking with Pat?

I've planted in the spring and fall and I think spring works better. I think sometimes planting in the fall is too much of a shock. You take a plant grown in a warm nursery and then plunge it in the ground and then it quickly gets hit with cold temps and is forced to hibernate. The only advantage to fall planting is the roots grow some over the winter, so in the spring they're better established than the same plant planted in the spring. But the death rate seems higher if planted in the fall. At least that's my experience.

Consider availability. The greatest selection of varieties nurseries have is geared to spring planting by home gardener customers. As the year progresses fewer and fewer varieties are still in stock.

Also, local purchasing of stock for fall planting, especially from big box sources often means having to choose from a limited selection of container grown roses that have suffered from stress/negligent care all summer long.

Moses

I love planting roses in the fall because I feel like they have all winter and early spring to settle into their new home. 7b never gets bellow zero and the single digits we get are usually for a few hours overnight so even bands here have done well planted in the fall. (I wouldn’t do it with a tea or something that was borderline in hardiness )

Rogue Valley shipped from OR to WA in Dec. last year. High Country shipped in Nov., I got all OGR. I just got bare roots from J&P in June (we were so cool, they were half price and I took a chance.) They looked good and are almost blooming.

This is the first year I've considered end of summer ordering potted roses. It's not ideal but what in life is. Northland Rosarium is having a great sale, and their shipping only takes two days to get here. Red Eden won't let me sleep at night, i might go for it.

I liked Palatine's fall shipping much better than spring shipping. ( zone 7 NC) I like to plant gallon size or larger own roots in fall also.

Go for it Berrypie. That rose appeals to me too.

I see that Northland Rosarium is currently offering New Zealand, I think I've seen a lot of people gush about that rose on here. Not to tempt you or anything, @Kristine LeGault 8a pnw

If I remember right NZ has giant blooms. My HMF computer keys are going to wear out.

And great fragrance 🙃