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Sun Tolerant Hosta bed in jeopardy! Shade tree coming down!

3 years ago

A few years ago, I created a sun tolerant hosta bed on the east side of my house. I planted Sagae, Liberty, Queen Josephine, Nigrecens Nigrescens and many others. They have down well getting 10 a.m. to 1:30 sun. This year with the terrible heat in June and July, several of them really fried. This October the large Box Elder on the east side of my yard has to come down due to rot. It’s been providing that early a.m. shade. Now the bed will have sun several hours earlier and I fear the toll it will take on the plants. I am considering a shade or awning of some type. A pergola is a good idea except we have so much wood in our decks, it wood be too much. Suggestions?

Bed and decks, ignore the wet cloths from the rain please:





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debra

Comments (13)

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Why not a sun shade or just another umbrella and it can work for the chaise too. I find my hostas do bese when paired with plants that kind of grow over them a bit

    djacob Z6a SE WI thanked Patricia Colwell Consulting
  • 3 years ago

    What a nice spot you have and sweet kitty, too! Would you consider planting something else like nepeta? It’s cat mint and grows about to the same height you have now. It has pretty small purple flowers and that would look pretty against your yellow on the decking. Plus the cat will love the smell!

    djacob Z6a SE WI thanked Sarah
  • 3 years ago

    Elk, those hostas are sun tolerant ones…… and even If I could move them, I don’t have room. As you can see from the photos I have a city yard and all surrounding beds are already planted including almost my entire front yard. It would be a tremendous amount of work even if I could relocate them.
    debra

  • 3 years ago

    I feel your pain. I lost my peach tree last year which provided shade to most of my hosta collection. Some of the minis fried so badly that they completely died. I had resolved that the others were going to need to be dug up and given away to friends and family. But as I was digging them up, I realized that if I divided them into smaller chunks, I could fit the smaller chunks elsewhere in my yard and give away the rest. I spent most of this Summer doing just that. It meant digging other plants first, creating two new small beds, and then moving the hostas. It has been a lot of work. But I just did it in very small portions.


    I thought about building something with a sun sail. But it's so windy here that I figured anything I constructed would probably end up in Kansas or I would spend so much time worrying about it, that it wouldn't be worth it. But it's a decent idea if you don't have a lot of wind. You can fill buckets or containers with concrete and add a post to use to string them up.


    good luck.

    djacob Z6a SE WI thanked popmama (Colorado, USDA z5)
  • 3 years ago

    Heavy mulch will keep moisture in.

    Adding taller annuals/ perennials/ herbs strategically placed to shade hostas from most sun will give them a bit of reprieve. They might develop enough roots to support leaves and figure it out.

    Putting taller pottery with flowers will do the same, give a bit of shade.

    Put a support and grow clematis over it.

    djacob Z6a SE WI thanked lindalana 5b Chicago
  • 3 years ago

    I think you are a regular member of the hosta forum because you love hosta! And that means, you want to keep your plants. I don't think it would be too much wood if you had a pergola built that had shade cloth on top or several wood beams. Maybe something like this:




    I have often dreamed that one of my huge maple trees would one day be cut down. Then I also would have too much strong sun. I love hosta too much to just reduce my collection. One day will come when I realize I just can't do the work needed to have the garden the way I want to have it. But that's not now for me. Is it for you? Only you can answer that question.

    So if you're not ready to reduce your garden yet, I would say get a pergola---you can have it painted if you like. Keep enjoying your garden.


    djacob Z6a SE WI thanked newhostalady Z6 ON, Canada
  • 3 years ago

    Debra correct me if I am wrong but it seems the extra hrs. of sun would be dawn until the 10:00 a.m to 1:30 pm. that you are already getting. I have Hosta beds that get dawn till 2:30-3:00 p.m. and they are fine. I am on a well so I do not water but I do have moisture retentive soil.

    djacob Z6a SE WI thanked peren.all Zone 5a Ontario Canada
  • 3 years ago

    Is it possible that this area is competing with tree roots---and that the hosta in that location don't get as much water as one thinks---contributing to dry leaves and scorching?

    Extra morning sun, as peren.all mentions, may not be that harsh on the hosta?

    djacob Z6a SE WI thanked newhostalady Z6 ON, Canada
  • 3 years ago

    We relocated 15 hosta this spring. Yes it is a ton of work but worth it. I managed to tuck them into other gardens where I had thought there was not room. It did involve digging up other plants and tucking them inbetween but it looks fantastic in the end. I just thought of it the same way as rearranging living room furniture into a new layout. We have limited space too. It forces you to get creative about height, depth, layering, and new vantage points.

    djacob Z6a SE WI thanked Kendrah
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Thanks to all of you. You have all given me great ideas…….I possibly could do a sun sail. I could attach to either side of the screen porch and stretch over to a support beam on the deck that holds some lighting. Not sure the cost of such……




    Perahaps the dawn light will not be as bad as I thought…….I will admit, because my garden guy Bert seriously injured his hand in June, I did not have the garden help I usually have. And due to my limitations (many of you know about my hip 3 surgeries) no mulching got done and it was truly needed. I like the idea of some containers to help will shading that bed. It would be the easiest solution. Also some taller plants may help. I also have thought about one of those decorative standing screens, but that might make it hard to move around the bed.

    Kenrah, I am 69 with physical limitations, so splitting and moving the hostas would be a tremendous amount of work and really there is plenty of room in that bed for growth of those hostas. I am glad that you were able to move yours with a little bit of work. My front yard is pretty full and competes with maple tree roots, adding more there would cause more issues.

    debra

  • 3 years ago

    Look into adding drip irrigation. I had hostas in my west facing front bed that get blazing afternoon sun. After we added irrigation, they look great all summer every summer.

    djacob Z6a SE WI thanked ratherbeatthebeach
  • 3 years ago

    Thanks RBTB!!
    debra