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Decent industrial conversion.

4 years ago

Except for a number of modern doors which could use replacing, pretty good overall:


https://www.estately.com/listings/info/48-w-queen-lane-philadelphia-pa-19144

Comments (22)

  • 4 years ago

    Ok, yeah, this is my dream industrial building/house. I love it and am swooning and want to be young and living in the city in this building. It’s perfect and I’d feel so hip. Imagine the parties to be had here!

    This is awesome, thanks for sharing it. Going back to swoon some more ….

  • 4 years ago

    Awesome is right. Fantastic. Not a thing to change.

  • 4 years ago

    Very cool space. Seems like a great price for amount of space.


    Getting back to our real estate description/pictures discussion: So many duplicate pictures, close ups of pottery collections, plants, etc.


    But I do think every listing should include a picture of a cat! ;-)

  • 4 years ago

    I remain pro-close-ups in listings, if they are as special as this one. Every photo from the same distance gets boring and doesn't have the same flow. Even if they are not the most important shots for the listing per se, I think they provide a nicer introduction overall.


    I see a fair amount of exposed brick where we are looking in Boston from time to time. Like many of us of a certain age, there was probably nothing I wanted more when I was starting out. Now I find it a little too too and I think I would paint brick white, YMMV.

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    I had friends who lived in exactly this sort of thing 25 years ago except in its more raw state, and it was freezing cold in the winter in some parts of the building. As in wearing coats inside cold.

    This has a lot more heating ducts spread around and such,(Theirs had some radiators and one of those big ceiling heaters like in a garage) but if it is not cold in the winter, then I would imagine the heating bills are astronomical.

    They erected what was essentially a "tent" inside the loft around certain key areas to keep heat in those rooms. (Big plastic and canvas tarps hanging all 'round).

  • 4 years ago

    Absolutely love it . Id be happier if it was farther up Germantown Ave, in Chestnut Hill but that would another $1m to the price.

  • 4 years ago

    I really like it. Thanks for sharing.

  • 4 years ago

    Really handsome - I like the space a lot, but I did notice right away there seems to be zero insulation. I can only imagine what winter's like in there.

    FWIW, I lived in a TriBeCa loft in the late 70s - basically a huge empty space with a bathroom in the corner that had a door with a 2 inch gap at the bottom. There was no insulation either - brrr!

  • 4 years ago

    That's what I noticed as well Carol, lack of insulation.

    I love the floors!!

  • 4 years ago

    Definitely not finished enough for me. I like lofts with a nod to their industrial pasts. This one still looks like a commercial building with a few walls thrown up—-the space is not well planned at all. I like exposed brick and ductwork and beams as much as the next person, but when they are features of a more refined space and not just the bare bones with nothing made of them.

  • 4 years ago

    Overall, I liked it. However, I kept thinking of all the brick dust to be vacuumed up. When brick starts spalling like that, it is a constant battle to stay ahead of the brick dust. @mtnrdredux_gw look closely at the exposed brick you are encountering in Boston. Do you want to be vacuuming the baseboards and floors daily?

  • 4 years ago

    I have to disagree with you on this one.

    An industrial loft is a commercial space with a few walls thrown up, and often there is little that can be done in the way of conventional planning, if one has the entire space, because it is so big and open.

    When you start to finish it off and close it up and make it more conventional, you might as well go the full route and turn it into ordinary apartment units in an old building. It becomes rather phony to call something a "loft" anymore when all it is is a conventional apartment with a high ceiling and a brick wall exposed here and there. And of course the majority of lofts are just that, anymore.

    That said, I could not live in the genuine article at this age, because I am not all that comfortable with open, undifferentiated spaces, built of raw older materials that shed dust and have lots of crevices and are hard to clean, and heat.


  • 4 years ago

    FWIW, this reminded me of the exposed old brick wall in the apartment my sisters lived in near Broadway & Hell's kitchen and occasionally seeing these weird insects crawling around on it:



  • 4 years ago
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    I could not live with the bricks. Dust/color the juxta positioning of brand new against falling down just doesn't work for me. That tone of orange just isn't happening for me.

  • 4 years ago

    I didn’t think about dust, but the color of the brick is pretty, the light seems great, the furnishings show such a nice consistency of style, and the odd horizontal mirror emulates a window well. eek, i cant look at the image above

  • 4 years ago

    I still own one house with Z-brick....remember those? on one wall. Someone painted most of them off white. Gives the place character. 🙈


    This place is done really well Pal. I appreciate the difference.

  • 4 years ago
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    It’s nice but a little too raw for my personal taste. The furniture and doodads are cool. If it were mine I would half the amount of walls with exposed brick and have black steel beams and posts.

  • 4 years ago

    Interesting, Pal.


    Can I assume there is no insulation on the exterior walls? The ceiling does not appear to be insulated either. Cold?

  • 4 years ago

    I like the building but couldn't live like that at my age. My boyfriend back in the late 70's lived in a similar loft in the West West Village (Yes, part of Greenwich Village is called the West West Village) .He lived in a loft apartment similar to the one Pal posted. It had cost a fortune and was freezing. Yes, there was dust everywhere from the brick which had never been painted or treated. It had conventional radiators but with exposed brick and enormous single pane windows it was always freezing or boiling. I loved that apartment but now would never choose to live like that. Too cold, and dark. I live in a converted factory in a much more conventional apartment. I still get the high ceilings, big windows but I also have central heat, and AC. I choose not to expose any of the brick. Others have in the building and found they had lead paint that had to remediated. In addition after one winter found they needed to update and add additional heating.

  • 4 years ago

    I love it but also couldn't live somewhere like that now. too cold, not enough soundproofing between rooms (we could never share a loft for the same reason).

    I hate this trend of super saturated high contrast photography for real estate. it makes finishes look terrible. I would probably like this place a lot more IRL.

  • 4 years ago
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    I wonder if the internal bedroom with the windows onto the main space is the cold weather bedroom.

    I lived in two different apartments in an early 19th c. building and the exterior walls were plaster right on the brick (actually my 1965 house was uninsulated plaster on concrete block so not much had changed).

    For a while we had the heat turned off in the LR, during a project and even though there was a heated space below us, you could see your breath in the LR.

    The apartment we rented short term was over another which was unoccupied the entire time we lived upstairs from it. The bathroom was so cold that you had to run hot water full blast to warm up the cast iron tub so you could stand in it. It was transmitting the cold up from downstairs.

    But one of the reasons that buildings like this survive through long periods of neglect is that they are so permeable and things breathe. An unoccupied sealed up modern house will start rotting from within if anything, like a small leak, disrupts the balance. An 8 year old house near me was rendered uninhabitable by black mold when it was just a few years old. It has already been completely gutted.