A green's list for a change.

That's a good idea.

Lately I've been in a fit about what greens will survive a hard winter.

I've been over on the vegetable forum and there was a post about winter lettuce.

This guy posted about " Landis Winter Lettuce" that survived -5 degrees.

https://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/grow-winter-lettuce-zm0z18aszsphe/

I've been giving Mache a try this winter. It's still small , not making much of a show.

Rick

I've been looking for tyfon again without luck. Do you have a source? I used to grow it 20 years ago, but I've been unable to locate seeds!

Amy, that is an impressive list, most of that stuff I have never heard of.

Madge just carried 2 more tool satchels to go through. I use the tool satchel to store a lot of things. including seeds. I have gone through most of my seeds and picked out what I would like to plant this year, but of course I wont have room for everything I would like to plant. I planted a lot more plants than I needed last year just trying to reduce my supply. I did notice an ounce New Zealand Spinach seed, I may try to grow some just because you mentioned it. I also noticed an ounce of Rape seeds, I have not grown that in years.

I started through the satchels that Madge brought in, I am embarrassed at what a seed hoarder I have become. Most of this stuff is from when I would plant a wild life garden and a market garden, but still, that is too much seeds, plus I have 2 more satchels in the center bedroom.

I got tyfon seeds from Pinetree, in 2017. I have no idea if they would even germinate now. I never managed to grow them. It seems like it was unavailable last time I looked for it as well.

Looks like it's sold in the UK. Sometimes those kind of seeds are available on Amazon, but I didn't find it. No idea how hard it is to get seeds from the UK.

Could Tyfon have another name? I tried googling it, and, from I could see it is a cross between a Stubble turnip and Chinese cabbage, am I looking at the right thing?

Thank you @AmyinOwasso/zone 6b and @slowpoke_gardener. I too got mine from Pinetree, and I've been in touch with them, and they no longer carry. It is also known as Holland Greens. It is acutally mostly used as a pasture rebuilder/livestock feed, so I don't think it was well marketed to home gardens. I have asked European sources for small amount of seeds unsuccessfully so far. I suspect with all the other brassica hybrids, there is something similar, but it performed great in Alaska full season, wasn't prone to root maggot like many brassicas here (Chinese cabbages seem to be their fav!), and didn't have the mustardy flavor that I don't like.

If the Tyfon does not have the mustard taste, and taste more like Chinese cabbage, I would like to find seeds also. I grow forage turnips and forage radishes also, but they have a strong taste. I think the forage (Barkant) turnip has a little milder taste, but it is still too strong for most people. Most greens I have to doctor up their taste to enjoy them.

Have you tried komatsuma? Supposed to be cross of mustard and, I think, spinach. I have grown Yokatta-Na and misome for years. Both are good cooked. I think I originally got them at pinetree, but kitazawa has them as well. I don't know how they would do in Alaska, that's a much different climate than Oklahoma. But they are cool season crops.

Look through the greens options here, and maybe contact them for help. Experimental Farm Network Seed Store https://search.app/1rzprn8dkSKFDzwS8

Another place you might try is

https://seedsavingnetwork.proboards.com/

There are a couple of British or European gardeners who might be able to help you.