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Apiaceae! Which are you growing?

3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago

I really love this family. Their seeds are often difficult to grow and often must be sown fresh. It leaves a lot of questions when no germination happens. Was it me? Were they old seeds? It's always a triumph when things do go right. Show what species you grow, no matter what part of the planet they are native too. Also feel free to show some Apiaceae close relatives, with umbells as well, like anything in Valerianaceae or Araliaceae. That includes pond scum all the way to good sized trees. Or if no pics, please comment anyway. I'd love to see some pics of Astrantia and Patrinia too.😃

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  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago



    Valeriana officinalis. I love the coconutty flower fragrance. It's hasn't produced seeds in 2 years. Do I need another plant for pollination?


    Sium sauve. The wild ones growing in bogs are glorious.


    The fern-like foliage of Sweet Cicely, the native Osmorhiza claytonii, not Myrris odorata. Much more beautiful and refined than that horror Aegopodium podagraria🤬. A couple species I haven't been able to germinate yet are Thaspium trifoliatum and Taenidia integerrima. Well, some scattered Honewort seeds did germinate, but the seedlings might have been shaded out of existance, time will tell, and more fresh seeds were scattered, just in case? I have finally had success with the Chinese medicinal herb Cnidium monnieri,Snow Parsley. It even self sowed and the vollunteers bloomed, all in 1 year. I have many more pics, just pacing myself Lol.

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    I am also a huge fan of the umbels and grow a lot. Would love to have some pics but I am a bit rubbish at taking them and uploading, so you will have to take my word. Keble Martin lists some 30odd varieties which are either native or naturalised...I grow most of these including the poisonous hemlocks and water dropworts in my wood...although I draw the line at heracleum mantegazzianum. This year, I am also growing quite a few mediterraneums such as molopospermum pelopponesiacum, melanospermum decipiens, selinum wallichianum, seseli hippomaranthemum, athamanta turbith, heracleum spondylium, peucedanum verticillare, rablense and ostruthium, dark coloured anthriscus sylvaticum 'Dial Park' and Angelica purpurea 'Ebony'...as well as a New Zealand megaherb, anisotome lyallii. I do also have valerian officanalis and valerian pyrenaica and heptaptera something. Oh yeah, zizia and patrinia are on my seed list for this year too.

    First up is usually smyrnium olusatrum...while the angelicas tend to bloom at the other end of the summer. Even the weedy cow parsley is beloved by me, along with annual orlaya, ammi majus and various edibles such as dill, coriander and chervil. O yes, I bloody love them all.

    My spelling is probably a bit suspect but I am also pacing myself...and having come across a source of guaranteed fresh seed (Special Plants), my cup truly runneth over this year.

    I think Rouge is teetering on the brink of apiaceae craziness...but has quite a way to go before he achieves my level of obsession...but he will come around.

    By the way, I have grown a lot of the angelicas and have found that the best, and most truly perennial type is a US native - a,arguta. Worth trying to get hold of that one, Jay.


  • 3 years ago

    I am lousy at growing from seed

    I enjoy the bronze fennel

    will try Peucedanum


    sometimes plant a carrot so it flowers (it is a strong magnet of all sorts of bugs, weird bees and insects)


    and test drive Seseli montanum in a project next fall (native in this spot of Europe and not too foufou/ thirsty)

    Jay 6a Chicago thanked linaria_gw
  • 3 years ago

    I grow an absolutely gorgeous peucedanum ostruthium'Daphnis' Lin. Like an infinitely more mannerly variegated ground elder. Well worth searching out.

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    It is true that many of the seeds have a very short viability so I will collect as many seeds as I can from my plants and will happily send them to anyone interested, this year. However, they do not always set seed - peucedanum palustre, for example, has been almost impossible to get hold of (hence the parlous state of our native swallowtails). I don't think the lack of seed is down to needing a pollination partner, Jay. Some are just intractable.

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Not by choice but I have Aegopodium podagraria in two spots, not planted by me. Daucus carota, Anthriscus sylvestris, Heracleum maximum & Pastinaca sativa are common natives that are in wild areas on my property. I should get pics of the natives in field and forest.



    Like many others Aralia 'Sun King' is one I grow. It is on its first full year.


    A bee a wasp and a fly enjoying A. m.




    Astrantia 'Lars'

    Here you go Jay. I adore Astrantia for the way it looks and the pollinators it attracts

    Jay 6a Chicago thanked peren.all Zone 5a Ontario Canada
  • 3 years ago

    O grief yeah, forgot about eryngoes. Have a few of them too. Can't grow astrantia to save my life though. I must rein myself in, I think - I get unreasonably excited about umbellifers. They all fit really well with my messy gardening style (wildflowers and badly behaved roses), are generally easy to look after, popular with wildlife, relatively quick from seed...its a winning combination for me.

  • 3 years ago

    This is Orlaya that has been reseeding itself around an old cement chicken coop foundation for the last 15 yrs - it will grow anywhere.




    Jay 6a Chicago thanked Jeb zone 5
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Wow, I'm not at all familiar with a lot of these Apiaceae species you'll are mentioning. It will be exciting looking them all up. I have great luck growing the Rattlesnake Master, Eryngium yuccifolium. It self seeds quite well. I'd love to grow Heracleum maximum, but I think it's too large for any of my areas. I grew Lovage once, and it didn't blend very well with my other plants. Kind of a large celery stalk. I think the only native Angelica, (A. atropurpurea) around here is also too big for my beds, and it likes constantly moist soil. Thanks for sharing the beautiful pics Jeb and perenn.all !


    Aralia spinosa, the juicy parts


    Cnidium monnieri, Snow Parsley.


    Aralia racemosa, Spikenard.


    Cryptotaenia canadensis with Persicaria virginiana and Chrysogonum Green and Gold.


    Rattlesnake Master, Eryngium yuccifolium.


    Cnidium monnieri, fresh seeds that had 100 percent germination.


    This Ferula badrakema is similar to Ferula drudeana which is believed to be the ancient herb of legend, Silphion. It was worth more than it's weight in gold and was supposedly overcollected into extinction. The story is that Nero was given the very last plant in existence. Silphion was medicinal for just about any ailment and was prized as a cooking herb and flavor enhancer. It's reckoned that the recently discovered Ferula drudeana population was grown from seeds that were taken from Silphion plants, and then forgotten about over time, until their rediscovery. It takes years for Ferula drudeana to reach flowering size. I don't think seeds for it will ever be available in our lifetimes. Another closely related umbellifer hing that's used in Indian cooking has been used as a substitute in ancient recipes using Silphion, but a resent experiment using Ferula drudeana as the Silphion ingredient showed the food made using Ferula drudeana, instead of hing, tasted much better. Silphion was put on ancient coins.


  • 3 years ago

    Erigenia bulbosa, Harbinger of Spring, Pepper and Salt. My most favorite umbellifer. I saw them for the 1st time in spring of 2021. They are extremely rare.


    A Japanese Angelica keiskei "Koidzumi". I believe this Angelica is perennial, but sadly it was biennial for me, and an early freeze ruined the chance for any seed.


    Cicuta bulbifera likes growing in slow moving, shallow water.



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