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Cabinet builder install/ floor gap

3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago

I would love to get the insight of any professional contractor or cabinet builder or frequent remodeler who has experience remodeling “older” homes (ours was built in 1987) and the problems that might arise.


We began a kitchen remodel in summer of 2020 . We weren’t doing a Complete gutting, but basically just ripping out old cabinetry and rebuilding. We didn’t do any work to the floor or the ceiling or the walls.


I worked with a designer and the design we chose had a scrolled footing, shown below. The first pic is the inspiration picture. Second is what is currently in my kitchen.


The cabinet professional ended up being somewhat careless in a lot of his install and design. and I can tell you many disaster stories, but the one we are still dealing with is this :

The 18 foot section of cabinets that sits against an outside brick wall, unbeknownst us, has a gradual slope of about a half inch, maybe a little less


We were not informed of this or given any heads up as to any other options. The cabinetry was installed to the point where the very end of the cabinet sat above the floor aabout a half inch while the other end of cabinets sat basically level to the floor.

In addition, the cabinet maker failed to install the arched feet detail on every set of cabinets. Basically, like every other box had footing and others did not. So he ended up having to come back in and piece in the arched detail?!?!


Unfortunately, we have spent the last two years trying to come up with a solution to the problem he caused. As you see in the picture below, he tried to come and fill in the gap with some kind of putty or wood filler maybe? Also, the arch detail that was added after the fact is coming apart.


We have been looking for a solution to this for almost 2 years at this point.

My biggest concern is that he is now saying that the problem never was his fault to begin with as we should have known there was a slope in the floor and jacked our floors up to meet his cabinet?? Is this for real?!

I am convinced that you hire a custom cabinet designer for this reason— he never alerted us to this. He simply set the cabinets and walked away with a huge gap and missing arches.

Is this for real that we would need to go under our house and jack up 40 year old flooring to meet his cabinet or was there a way for him to have

  1. Alerted us to this issue so we could pick a different style. Or
  2. Use technology and basic geometry to figure out a way to keep from having a huge gap on one end.?

There’s so much more detail and nuance to the story, and I’m happy to fill in any “gaps” lol as needed. I’m fully convinced he was in the wrong, and should never have set our cabinets, and that it is his job to figure out a way to fix it. He is now, for some reason, pushing back on this and saying the “industry standard” of cabinet making is to jack up un-even flooring to meet a cabinet base lol.

What say you?!


Ps— we have met with several other professionals, but just trying to get other opinions as well.
Another PS I can’t find a picture of the gap, but just know it was about a half inch and he tried to fill it.


inpsiration picture above




This is what is currently in my kitchen. You can see the gap between the floor and the foot that he tried to fill with wood putty or something. Secondly you can see very obviously where he attempted to place in the arched detail after the fact.

Comments (8)

  • 3 years ago

    Apologies for typos! This format wouldn’t let me edit —but I will try to!

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    " he is now saying that the problem never was his fault to begin with as we should have known there was a slope in the floor and jacked our floors up to meet his cabinet?? "


    He s full of s**t. Shims and the trim scribed to the floor. Since there are feet they could be shimmed with a decorative piece scribed / cut to fit the different heights were he at all talented enough. For a half inch no one would jack up the floor for cabinet install.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    All floors are crooked, he should have set realistic expectations and proposed workarounds (as millworkman suggests, scribe molding). That aside, he forgot every other cove and can't get his tacked on ones to lay flat? Sad

  • 3 years ago

    Yes agreed. He suggested molding (shoe mold?) to go along the bottom to cover the gap. which would have been fine, but that doesnt fix the problem of the pieced-In arched detail. My goodness.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    IMO you chose the wronf style cabinet when uyou decided to not do new floors. I rarely redo a kitchen with the original fllor plan so the floor is always the first thing to address. Where is your designer these feet were part of the cabinet so what happened .

  • 3 years ago

    We didn’t change the footprint on this particular side of the kitchen. It is also sitting against an outdoor brick wall. Hardwoods are original to the house. It’s a 40 + year old home and has lots of quirks.We had the floors sanded and refinished but otherwise had no intention of changing anything else. Would gladly have pivoted in design had we know it would be an issue. My designer has decades of experience and has never had this issue. 🤷‍♀️ We were all taken by surprise.

  • 3 years ago

    Also maybe i didn’t understand your question— the cabinet maker had the design and left off parts of it and came and installed the cabinets without the arched details. That was his mistake not my designers. They were installed when we found it. He told us it would be an “easy fix” 🙄

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Cabinet installation 101 is level, square, plumb and on plane. I don't care what your floors are doing. Duh.