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3 years ago

Looking to remodel my masterbath has no windows. any suggestion on flooring and countertops or overall look?




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  • PRO
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    This is a gut. Do you use a tub? Nobody wants to shower in a space the size of a broom closet!!

    Draw the space. Measure every single wall. /every door way. Note the fixture placement. toilet sink etc. Do that, take a picture of your very neat and legible drawing, upload it, and post in a jpeg format that can be enlarged to view well.

    Do that in a comment box below, do not begin a new thread.

    Your buggy is out ahead of your horse.........you are nowhere NEAR selecting materials, counter, tile vanity stain or color....anything!!

    Homework is first

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Thank you for your response Jan. i wish i had the money to gut the bathroom and completely redo it unfortunately i dont so have to work with what i have.

  • 3 years ago

    Maybe you can be more specific about what you can do. You said "flooring" and "countertops". Is that all? Mirror, towel bars, light fixture, shower door; sink faucet -- all of that stays?

  • 3 years ago

    I am able to replace/update anything that is not major so mostly cosmetic. changing flooring, countertops, mirror, lighting, shower door, sink, faucets, fixtures

  • 3 years ago

    Do you want to change out the floor tile? Or would putting down some LVT or sheet flooring over the existing be an option? That option could potentially save you from demoing the tile - plus, the vinyl or linoleum can be softer/easier on the feet and legs, less impact than walking around on tile.


    But either way - I think you can do alot just by bringing in some type of flooring and new light fixtures.


    I just used a simple hex tile from Tile Bar, and it is showing in the space whiter than it really is ( plus, the vanity light would obviously not be placed like that ); but hopefully this gives you the (very rough) idea. :)








    I would say just start w/ those two modifications - the floor and lights - and then see if you feel the need to do anything else. A simple change of wall color could possibly take it a step further, but also may not be necessary.

  • 3 years ago

    I understand that this is a cosmetic renovation, however, we don’t know your budget. Cosmetic is very general.
    So I’ll just make a few suggestions and you can take it slow and do what your Able to do, keeping the big picture in mind.

    Seems like you like cottage/ farmhouse vibe style…? Lovely 🤍

    The first thing I think I’d do is get a quote -
    See if you can extend the doorway to the shower. I think it will make a very big difference. Even if you need to give up a little bit of space from your vanity… unless that isn’t important enough for you…

    Regardless, I’d get a new shower door. Something updated. They sell prefabs in Lowe’s, Home Depot…

    The next thing I’d get a quote on is vanities. You can get a vanity that comes with a countertop. Instead of having a custom countertop cut for your vanity. See what the difference in price is. How big is this one now? I can share some ideas with you …

    The light definitely needs to change. :) but let’s wait on picking one out for a moment …

    Flooring - can you DIY? Can you demo?

    I just noticed there’s only one sink.
    Do you want two?
    Do you want to get a quote to move it to the other side of the wall so that there’s more space by the shower door?

  • 3 years ago

    Inspiration

  • 3 years ago

    You can do so much with that space...I will say Jan Moyer is very consistent about - being abrupt! What a hoot! Good luck. I also feel see the master would help with advice so they work together.

  • 3 years ago

    Inspiration

  • PRO
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    "Jan is consistent about.........being abrupt"

    True. The other truth/hoot missing? If the OP won a Lotto tomorrow? She'd gut the bath: )

    Failing the gut? First go pick a nice porcelain tile you like.

    Go to a stone yard, look for a remnant quartz to compliment - even a plain white Corian will do, with an under mounted porcelain sink. Paint the vanity!

    Home Depot and Loews have a plethora of bath lighting. Look for an eight inch spread faucet in chrome. Same places.

    What colors are in your bedroom? Start with that. Find a large art canvas you love to hang on the tub wall, and start with that! Home sense....online, anywhere, they abound. I see gray on the bath walls and I will just say.....there are other colors. : ) and you do what you can do. But 40 years is a long time on a bath. That's just "truth", gently or painfully delivered, no different than a medical diagnosis.

    One note: Don't replace the shower door, if the FLOOR tile you have is on those shower walls..............You want "out" of the dated brown floor.

  • 3 years ago

    Jan, both links in your first comment went to an error page for me on my phone. ??

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    I think we need to see the MBR if this is connected since IMO they need to work together. I am with Jan as far as spending this amount of money on a space that relly is not that functonal. Changing flooring in thta space is going to open a can of worms since itis either up to or maybe even under the tub and the edge of the shower . I think paint it in a color from the bedroom change the light bulbs to LED 4000K and wait to do it right.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    What links KL ? I didn't use any on this thread.

  • PRO
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Why it pays to wait.........

    See my hairy blue dot "ugga bugga list" for a second. All the things the OP is "willing to change".



    Lot's of dots.

    Now....... what if you waited a bit? Demo is dusty, but relatively cheap. Hardly matters how much demo.

    Turn the shower plumbing around / give up tub for a tiled shower, even if a pre fab pan. Slide doors, clear glass. Inexpensive porcelain abounds, shower walls and floor tile use ONE.

    Turn the old shower to a framed in linen closet. Open shelved or a door....or not! Heavens, you could drywall and ELIMINATE IT!

    Create a new vanity,,,,,Ikea.....a Local cabinet guy, and paint. Second sink ? Or not. Either way, I guarantee the existing is low by today's standards.

    The first issue here is TUB , whether it is used, not used...and a hemmed in shower.

    I'd wait it out. A year, two years.....whatever it took. I'm all for cosmetic improvements, when they actually DO improve. : )

  • 3 years ago

    There appears to be a master closet attached beyond the bath with the same floor. Or is that a carpeted area? Do you intend to re-floor this area, too? Please post a measured floor plan of the space. Are you a shower person OR a bath person? This is important. Can you sacrifice the tub or is that a no? (I am a bath person, so I wouldn’t eliminate it. But we need to know about YOUR preferences.)

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    And btw.......

    Even a wait and a gut doesn't mean you need SPLURGE beyond all reason. Clearly, this lady didn't need her tub. : )



  • 3 years ago

    Jan, that shower door is the most glaring dated item in the room. Can you please explain in more detail why the OP shouldn't replace it? I choose to learn from you :-)


    I see the floor and shower tile as plain Jane, but not dated, so I don't see why it needs replacing. Help? Jan, does it really?


    I'd like to get rid of the bathmats on the floor and have clean new washable ones hanging or folded nearby over the tub but not ON the floor.


    I'd like to see the vanity lights replaced with sconce or pendant lights or back-lit mirrors. I'm guessing pendants would be easiest.


    I'd like to replace the counters/sink with something more contemporary like undermount sinks. I suppose that would require fawcet replacement?


    I agree with Jan that the two tiny floaters over the tub need something bigger and more eye-catching and mood setting. This room lacks emotion. I also think the colors of the adjoining space should be brought into the bath. So, choose a color (beige, white, grey, and taupes don't count in this application) from the adjoining space to blow up in this room, starting with a big something over the tub. What are your favorite actual colors in the next room?


    The room hasn't got enough contrast… It's all blah. Contrast color in light to dark, bright to dull, warm to cold for a room this big. Contrast textures and reflectiveness like shiny white porcelain and thirsty cotton towels. I like your basket. The walls have some plaster texture.


    Why is the towel ring there if you don't use it. Also… The round shape isn't repeated. Nice to have a wood thing to repeat the tray. Maybe have a wood frame on your tub art? Maybe a wood colored basket to replace your current basket?


    OMG, 4000k lighting! NO! I just had new can lights put in my bathroom. Thank goodness they had adjustable temperatures. 4000K is WAY to bright and way too cold! It makes any warm colors look awful! Woods look like they've got a bad coat of varnish on them. Humans look terminally ill! I wanted them toned down. The electrician likes 3500, and the next level is 2700. They are at 3500 but I am considering 2700. It depends on the dimmer switch and finishing materials. I am thankful they are adjustable.

  • 3 years ago

    How long do you plan to stay in the home? If it’s a long time then just wait it out and do it right. A frameless shower door only makes sense here if the tile is in good shape. A new countertop only makes sense if the vanity is in good shape (old rickety drawers and at an overall lower height is not worth keeping). Do you bathe? Do you really want to keep an old jetted tub (which can be an overall ewwww to use if that’s the previous owners gunk in the tub system). More info needed overall I think.

  • 3 years ago

    OK Jan, it must have been a software thing. In your first post, the words, "placement" and "Do" were hyperlinked to nowhere. No problem. Just willing to follow your breadcrumbs. :-)

  • 3 years ago

    I'm all for waiting. Heck it takes me years just to plan the thing and sign an agreement with a contractor. Why not start planning now?

  • PRO
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    The point I made on the OP's broom closet shower? If you DON'T need a tub? Tata! That becomes the shower. Now........that leaves the ugly shower with the seedy door.

    Who needs it? Make a linen closet! Do great floating shelves. The plumbing gone to the other side. That size shower entry and darkness and closed in feel? Is not worthy of a door change. It is worthy of elimination : ) The nuke it concept. Kaboom.

  • 3 years ago

    Despite what Patricia constantly harps on, no one needs 4000k lights.

    What is your budget? That will help us to help you with what is ctually doable.

    I agree that ideally doing what Jan says would be best, but if not, I’d at least splurge on a new, higher vanity

  • PRO
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    What you have called "cosmetic" is really a lot of work. Cosmetic is painting the walls/vanity and maybe changing out the faucets, window treatments, shower glass, lighting and possibly the vanity top. Everything else is expensive--flooring (as Patricia mentioned) is very disruptive and can open up a can of worms. Meaning that once you start demolishing tile, the hammering could disturb plumbing and wall tiles which can lead to leaks. Replacing fixtures (tubs/toilets/sinks) is neither cheap nor cosmetic. And doing it piecemeal will not get you what you want.

    What you need to do is figure out a budget and see what can be done relatively inexpensively and with the least amount of disruption.

    Personal story--I have a vacation home with a large master bath done in the 1990s. All the tile and fixtures are white, chrome fittings, white vanities with laminate tops. Poor lighting, small shower, huge mirror over vanity, tiny storage cabinet and large/never used jetted tub. After getting a quote for over $50K to gut the space, we decided we would rather spend that money elsewhere, so we went for a cosmetic update. We installed a new glass shower enclosure (enlarging the shower would have been very expensive), painted the vanities slate blue, replaced the vanity top with a quartz remnant, installed new sinks and faucets, lighting fixtures and mirrored medicine cabinets. Then painted the walls to work with the blue cabinets and quartz tops. All told it was about $5-$6K. We contracted out everything except painting. No changes to tiles, fixtures, windows or layout. Do I wish we could put the space that the tub takes up to better use? Yes, but it wasn't worth the $$.

    So my point is to take stock of the space and your budget and plan out how to make your preferred changes.

    Here's a photo of the vanity wall which represents most of the changes:


    painted cabinets · More Info


  • 3 years ago

    Thank you, Jan. Now I understand.:-)

  • 3 years ago

    Looking to remodel my masterbath has no windows. any suggestion on flooring and countertops or overall look?

    Go through Pinterest and pick out 12-15 bathroom pictures you like. Study them to see what similarities they share: does a certain color scheme continue to pop up? a certain type of mirror?

    This is a gut.

    We can see that nicer shower doors are available today, but we don't know the condition of the vanity or whether she wants to keep the tub.

    Draw the space. Measure every single wall. /every door way. Note the fixture placement. toilet sink etc.

    Yes, this information will get you better help.

    Also tell us your goals; I mean, does the current vanity size /shape work for you? Are you looking for a larger shower or to keep the tub? Is that closet adequate? Where is the toilet? Looks aside, how would you like to see the room work differently? Do you have enough linen /toiletry storage in the room now?

    Finally, since you've indicated money is an object, tell us what could potentially stay -- keeping the vanity would be a big savings. Is the tub in good condition? What about the tile in the shower?

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    What a waste of space! I assume you shower daily, but how aabout that tub? Do you use it? frequently? if not, I would save up my money and get rid of it!


    Then you could do a proper size shower.

    WHAT is your budget? "not a lot of money" means different things to diff people.

    You say you're up to changing the floor? That alone could be well over 3K. prob more. (just demoing that tile floor would be about 1K. if you can do it yourself, you'll save money)

    However, I wouldn't redo that floor unless you are 100% sure that nothing else in that room will change. ie, the shower/tub area.

    You could do a shower/tub combo, and then extend the vanity into where the shower is now. or, do a linen storage or makeup vanity.

    maybe you could do a free standing tub? you'd be able to get a slightly bigger shower.

    (swap the tub/shower in this pic to get a visual for yours)


    this one is half glass.


    Or, something like this


    If you like the fully enclosed shower, at least make it a little bigger and do a full glass door


    If you can do away with the tub, I'd extend the vanity and give yourself a longer shower


    maintaining the same shower footprint, just elongate it. in the tub space, you could have a storage cab or whatever else you need


    (this is why I say to hold off on the flooring)

    Countertop? is it a custom size? you could look for a remnant, or a pre-fab vanity top.

    You'll have to buy sinks.

    Do you like the one sink or would you like two?

    That mirror. You like it? if you framed it out it would look better. YOu can do that yourself for $50 if you have some slight DIY skills.


    Vanity light. has to go.

    Like Jan said, look for one at HD or online

    Lowes has this Kichler model:




    4 light would be nice since that bathroom is so dark. YOu can do LED, 60watt equivilent, and a 3200-3500K temp. (I hate yellow light in the bathroom)


    Vanity, do you like it? is it already painted?

    here's a simple before and after. Sometimes you can luck out and find some good deals on vanities on craigslist.




    if you want to jazz up that vanity area, think about doing a diff mirror, and then doing some wallpaper or a diff paint color. (i'd say tile, but unless you can do it yourself, it's going to cost)

    something along this line for the wall. (peel and stick wallpaper, paint and stencil are cheap DIY options)



    If all you want to do now is paint, change towels, the light bar, maybe the mirror, then do that.

    for the rest of it? save up money until you can do it once and do it right.

  • PRO
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    You can't wait? Have little or no money?? Change of counter is UP TO YOU. It's the floor, and ugly shower etc. I AM breaking my rule. But if you shop you can do all of this, for no more than 3k...4K depending your labor market and the top . Start floor...yes, I'm cheating.



    I'll assume the bedroom is edge to edge carpeted.

    Go pick an LVP "hardwood" you like. Install over the tile. Is this usually recommended? No...but we'll break that rule here.

    Hide the ugly shower with a shower CURTAIN. Don't faint.....It's ugly and I am sure the tile is inside as well.

    Pick a color......lets use navy blue. Find art..big. It's going on the blank tub wall.

    48 x 48 here, 372.00 Something with a view....



    lets get some LVP.......go right OVER THE TILE.



    Lets get a new light.....

    259.00



    LEAVE THE TOP ALONE.............It's not the big problem

    Hardware!!! ( Pottery Barn here.....)



    Mount a cool WHITE waffle weave shower curtain. ,

    Or something white and navy. Just make it disappear, It isn't worth more than a 100 bucks effort



    Put a nice rug on the floor...



    Paint the WALLS Hale navy, refresh the white on the vanity....change the pulls to chrome

    The room?? Will feel brighter , guaranteed.

  • 3 years ago

    Nanoleaf is going to come-out shortly with a smart modular "skylight". You can make it as large as you want by buying more of the modular pieces. It is motion sensing and programmable to give you the color temperature you want or let it automatically adjust to the color temp outside your home throughout the day. It also will react to music/sound if you are relaxing in the tub and want a light show of endless colors. If I had a windowless bathroom I'd get one.

  • 3 years ago

    @Paul f  Could you provide a link? That sounds like exactly what I would like for an upcoming project.