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please help! foundation/basement wall repair concerns!

3 years ago

Hired structural engineer to do a report. Spoke with 3 foundation repair companies and hired the one recommended by the engineer. Side note, I have cancer, going through chemo, was quite sick while the work was being done 2 weeks ago. I trusted that these were all reputable people. Things seemed odd but I figured they knew what they were doing.


Over the last 2 weeks I have become very concerned. Learned they should have gotten permits but did not. Installed rusted I-beams. Question how they are installed. Epoxy clearly smeared by hand and is schlocked all over my electrical outlet. Concrete patch has handprints all over it and is already cracking. Gaping openings to outside. Sill plate appears broken. Chunks of plastic tubing in the excavated dirt that I think were part of drainage system to sump pump. That's just a partial list.


Paid engineer to come back & look at work and the report says workmanship is good.


Here are a few pics. Is this acceptable???






Comments (7)

  • 3 years ago

    I would not be happy with it.

    HU-541312262 thanked cat_ky
  • 3 years ago

    Here's a side pic of one. Thought is an I-beam?


  • PRO
    3 years ago

    The rust and handprints are non-issues. You've paid one engineer; that's enough.

  • 3 years ago

    " Thought is an I-beam? "


    It is but it is used vertically as a post. A beam is typically used horizontally.

    HU-541312262 thanked millworkman
  • PRO
    3 years ago

    The cracked portions of the concrete foundation should have been corrected by using injection ports and filled with epoxy and then the stitching method with carbon fiber staples. Here is an example to give you an idea.



    The steel beams they installed have space between the beam and the foundation... that gap should be solid grouted with non-shrink mortar to provide full support for the wall, and the way they installed them, with blocking nailed, its odd, if you go to finish a basement that will be in the way, steel beam is attached to the inside of the joists and some have tension adjustment brackets welded to the column at the top.


  • 3 years ago

    Not sure on what the existing condition was prior to work, or the scope of work beyond the braces and crack filling, but:

    - Permits: Typically you do not need a permit to do repairs. Unless specifically addressed by your building department, I would lean towards this work not needing a permit. Permitting is essentially a ritual - it should not be considered something where an inspector protects you, evaluates work, or rules on workmanship or opinions. If you have a structural engineer's report, that is the important component for any future sale.

    - Rust: the "W" shape (called "I beam" by laypersons) used as a vertical brace was originally a long piece sitting with dozens of other sizes stacked outside a steel fabricator's yard for probably a long time. They are not painted. They start surface rusting when immediately exposed, which does not affect the integrity of the member. A company requests a number of beams at a certain size and shape, and the fabricator grabs some from the yard, cuts them to order, and delivers them.

    - Epoxy: Can't zoom in enough, but that looks like cellulose insulation that fell from above and landed on top of the electrical box. If so, blow or wipe it off. Epoxy is an ooze.

    - Handprints: Assuming referring to the outside patch, I would also assume it was cold when installed, which made the product hard to work with, and the installer pressed it into a crack/void/dimple with fingers for whatever the patch was concerning.

    - Cracks: old concrete and new patches over those cracks will continue cracking. It is usually not a concern structurally unless there is movement.

    - Gaping openings: There shouldn't have been a need to create openings to do the braces or crack fillers, so more info would be needed. But you should not see sunlight coming through the exterior wall.

    - Sill plate: Also should not be part of work with braces or crack filling. It would be very difficult for a sill plate to break unless the entire house collapsed inward on itself. Wood can naturally get cracks and checks, so more info would be needed.

    - Chunks of tubing: If PVC piping was done for the sump pump, there may be some pieces that were cut off and left on the ground. A typical jobsite has lots of pieces of things laying around that someone needs to clean up, and usually it is never the tradesperson that made the mess.

    If a licensed structural engineer stated the work was acceptable, then you would be throwing money away carrying this on. The engineer is concerned with meeting the project scope, which does not include fine workmanship for these kind of repairs. Hired tradespersons just don't have the same level of care for things you own that they do not. The only way to care for workmanship is to do things yourself.