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Keeping up (or not) with dead-heading

3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago

As my roses are maturing into their third year and beyond, it's become harder to keep up with dead-heading. I've noticed that some roses will do what is expected, put lots of energy into growing beautiful hips. These are ones I'm trying to prioritize dead-heading quickly. I'm also watching for roses that seem to not care if I'm slow at dead-heading. So far, I've noticed that Bolero doesn't mind all the spent blooms and regardless of dead-heading or not, goes right ahead and sets a second flush. (Pictures below)
What are your experiences with dead-heading and roses? Do you have particular roses that just keep growing new flushes beautifully even if you don't dead-head? Please share!

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  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Bolero




  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    I try to keep the hybrid teas, portlands, hybrid perpetuals, and floribundas deadheaded because, as a general rule, it improves their appearance and performance, though there are some, as noted in the OP, that barrel right along with repeat blooming whether you deadhead or not. These are also, relatively speaking, smaller shrubs, so it's not so hard to deadhead them.

    With teas, tea-noisettes, bourbons, Chinas, noisettes, and other large entities, I don't deadhead at all -- just not feasible, time-wise, given the size of the plants and numbers of blooms -- with three specific exceptions: 'Etoile de Lyon' (when I grew it) and 'Souvenir de Pierre Notting' (still have) are two teas I deadhead because their spent blooms are incredibly ugly while, unfortunately, hanging on for what seems like eternity. The other tea I regularly deadhead, 'Lady Hillingdon', I do because it does seem to speed up her repeat bloom.

    Added note that classes that I mentioned as not being deadheaded don't seem hindered by lack of deadheading ('Lady Hillingdon' the possible exception), and. of the ones I usually do deadhead, "Portland from Glendora" is even now putting out a glorious second flush even though I neglected to deadhead after the first flush this year.

    librarian_gardner_8b_pnw thanked catspa_zone9sunset14
  • 3 years ago

    Librarian, my most egregious negative example of not deadheading happened last year with Peach Swirl. I let the hips set for a few weeks (just lazy), and when I finally deadheaded it, it sat there for quite awhile before putting on new growth. It sets big hips. I find that my large Compassion climber doesn't rebloom much unless I deadhead it. OTOH, my sprawling William Allen Richardson tea couldn't care less whether I deadhead it (thankfully, since it's not easy), and just keeps blooming like crazy. I'd say it's maybe 50/50 on who cares about being deadheaded or not in my garden.

    librarian_gardner_8b_pnw thanked susan9santabarbara
  • 3 years ago

    I enjoyed deadheading and so it was never a chore. I would throw the spent blooms under and around the rose to act as fertilizer and mulch so there was no need to cart anything away. The teas, chinas, polyanthas and modern roses probably didn't care one way or the other, but making the bushes look their best was very rewarding.

    librarian_gardner_8b_pnw thanked Ingrid_vc zone 9b, San Diego Co. inland
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    The new line of Ping Lim roses, 'True Bloom,' followed in their individual variety names by: True Love (red), True Passion (tomato rred/orange), True Inspiration (pink)....., grown as shrubs, require no dead heading. I'm trying to grow my recent purchases of True Passion and True Inspiration more like floribunas/hybrid teas. They are responding pretty well to dead heading to the first five leaflet, and sending up new growth that ends in mostly single buds.

    In the future I may just grow them as intended as shrubs, not dead heading them, since hips do not seem to be forming where a dead head cut was missed, as evidently is the intention of Mr. Lim, a self cleaning, shrub rose bush.

    Moses

    librarian_gardner_8b_pnw thanked Moses, Pitt PA, cold W & hot-humid S, z6
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    I like to deadhead them if i can reach them, otherwise it’s not a big deal. i seem to get more blooms when I do.

    librarian_gardner_8b_pnw thanked SoCalGardenNut
  • 3 years ago

    Ingrid - I agree with you. Of course, I don't have thousands of blooms like a lot of people here get. :) :)

    librarian_gardner_8b_pnw thanked rosecanadian
  • 3 years ago

    rosecanadian, I'd give a lot for even one hundred blooms or fifty, However, I do have another six months of growing season so there's a great deal to hope for (go rattlesnakes!).

    librarian_gardner_8b_pnw thanked Ingrid_vc zone 9b, San Diego Co. inland
  • 3 years ago

    I don't. For some insane reason, I seem to only have roses which tower above my head, have a zillion flowers or are once bloomers. Lets me off the hook.

    librarian_gardner_8b_pnw thanked rosaprimula UK (Cambridge) Z8/9
  • 3 years ago

    Ingrid, I'm rooting for your rattlesnakes, too!

  • 3 years ago

    Are youall doing the two finger snap at the abscission layer or using secateurs?

    librarian_gardner_8b_pnw thanked stillanntn6b
  • 3 years ago

    I don't either - too lazy - it would take weeks to deadhead everyone. I do have some roses who hold on to their dead blooms forever, and end up looking awful. For some reason those are mostly modern bush types, and even spraying them with a hard jet of water does not do much. What I do with them is to get a shovel and whack the areas of the bush where they are until all of the dead blooms finally fall off - the bushes don't seem to care, and look fine afterwards.


    Jackie

    librarian_gardner_8b_pnw thanked jacqueline9CA
  • 3 years ago

    @stillanntn6b, sometimes I will break old blooms off at the abscission point as a quick thing, while just passing by, but generally I like to prune a bit further down on the rose classes that I do deadhead (size control, shaping), so I'm using secateurs.

    librarian_gardner_8b_pnw thanked catspa_zone9sunset14
  • 3 years ago

    Ingrid - yes, Go Rattlesnakes...Hiss Boom Bah!!


    Rosaprimula... :) :)


    Jackie - oh my goodness...shovel pruning!!! LOL


    Yes, I use pruners too.