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master bed design challenge!!

2 years ago

šŸ‘‹ I am building my first home. I’m looking for ideas on how to arrange furniture in my master bedroom. I lean towards a japandi style, and I prefer the headboard to not be in front of the windows. The windows are 3’x5’ and the ceilings are 8’, and between the bottom of the windows and the floor there will be 1’ 9.5ā€ of space. My floors are white oak, 7.5ā€ wide. I look forward to your ideas!!

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  • PRO
    2 years ago

    You say the windows are 3 x5 so how many are there on that wall since what you show looks more like a very large window. What is the little alcove with the inswing doors on the top left just above the vanity in the drawing? I see very few places where a bed can go . I think the space I am asking abou is the entry to the bedroom. I think the windows raised so that the head bosrd can go under them might work but IMO the only place for the bed is in front of the wall on the right .I have wall to ceiling to floor dpaes in my bedrom with my bed in front of the drspes I like it but can you not put windows on the 20' wall instead?

  • 2 years ago

    šŸ‘‹ hi. There are 3 windows that are 3x5’. The alcove is the entrance to the bedroom. Attached is a larger version of the blue print. The only exterior wall is where the windows are.

  • 2 years ago

    Can you change the window height so you have more of an awning-style window above the bed? Still lets in plenty of light, but you can put the bed below it. Something like this:


    https://www.houzz.com/photos/sands-point-residence-contemporary-bedroom-new-york-phvw-vp~1270798

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    You have a 16 foot exterior wall and it is the only logical place for a king bed, given the rest of the primary suite.

    You want 84 inches minimum, of solid wall between TWO windows. to locate the bed attractively and functionally

    Meaning two window, not a bank of three, each about 48 inches wide, one on each SIDE of the bed, or you live with a bed in front of the "as planned" condition - and a lot of drapery behind,the bed, as the windows are only about a foot and a half off the floor.

    Change it now if it will make you really crazy.

    Sorry, but this is something you consider when you look at a framing plan. If NOT desiring a bed under or in front of the windows? You have the "wrong" room for you.

  • 2 years ago

    I would move the windows one toward each corner of the wall with wall space in between for the bed.

    Otherwise you are going to have the head of the bed oriented with your heads aligned with the doors into the room and coming up the stairs you look in at the side of the bed. I would also change the double doors into the bedroom into a single.

  • 2 years ago

    Also I would ditch the double doors. They are awful for privacy and noise. And scootch the primary door back to make the landing more open. The landing seems unnecessarily cramped and broken up.

  • 2 years ago

    Another option, if you are still in the planning stages would be to rearrange the bathroom fixtures, extend the bath a bit by eliminating the double doors, and move the entrance to the bath into the entry alcove. Then you could place the headboard on the bathroom wall, which would give you a lovely view out the windows. That's not ideal if noise from the bathroom is heard from the head of the bed being on that wall, but I suppose it could be insulated well.

  • 2 years ago

    Thanks everyone. I’d like to make the proposed plan work since the windows provide a lot of light and it is a nice view. Would anyone consider putting a queen size bed on the interior wall, the one that is 20’ long? We are moving the double doors 1 foot inward so that there is more landing space by the stairs. I saw this plan in person in another home being constructed and it looked nice. But I have not seen it furnished so I was hoping for some ideas on how to configure the space. Could a small desk by the closet door work too? Or maybe a single chair and a mirror next to it?

  • 2 years ago

    Can you float the bed in the center of the room to face the windows? I would not want the bathroom to be my view from the bed.


  • 2 years ago

    Ohhh I like that in that room. But it won’t work in mine because it would block the closet room door. If I put the headboard by the 20ft wall, the bed faces the closet door and I would put a desk or chair in the corner between the closet and the windows. But I’m not sure how that would work in real life.

  • 2 years ago

    Also, not sure if this is evident from the blueprint, but the landing area above the stairs overlooks the foyer. So it feels nice and open with the double doors. And the laundry room has a window that lets in light into the landing area, plus the window above the foyer makes that area very bright.

  • 2 years ago
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    Try changing the bathroom layout, put the door around the corner in the bedroom entry, narrow that entry area, and place the bed on the bathroom wall facing the windows. You are going to be sleeping in the room. So getting a lot of light should not be a primary objective. And no matter how nice the view is, it doesn't matter much, if you don't have a good place to put the bed. That's what the room is for, a bed.

  • 2 years ago

    I’m not very good at reading these blueprints, but why wouldn’t you be able to put the headboard against the 20’ wall, next to the windows, maybe 24-36ā€ away from the window? That would give you some walking space and a view out the window when you wake up.

    Also, plan for a king sized bed, even if you don’t get one to start with. King sized beds are amazing. You can sleep on them in any direction you feel like at the time. That helps to watch TV, look at the view, or whatever else. Little tip: I use a duvet and a duvet cover made out of washable sheet material, and a fitted sheet - no flat sheet to tuck in - so the bedding can move wherever.

  • 2 years ago

    From a design standpoint, from more conventional standpoints to Feng Shui, having the side of the head of the bed the first thing you see from outside the room, approach from the door, is considered one of the least favorable bed positions.

  • 2 years ago
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    It would be 11’ inside, right? Is that still bad Feng Shui?

    "It’s knowing the rules and knowing when to break them.ā€ (Candice Olson) Does that apply to Feng Shui? I’m just asking - I haven’t studied it. (I guess that means I don’t know the rules!)

    I once read a Feng Shui rule about a tree in front of the front door, and I think they said it was OK if the tree was far enough away.

  • 2 years ago

    Good question Kelli! I’m interested in knowing that too. What if the first thing you see is a small desk? Then bed, then night stand. Single sofa in corner by windows, and plant next to closet door. Thoughts?

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    "Would anyone consider putting a queen size bed on the interior wall, the one that is 20’ long? We are moving the double doors 1 foot inward so that there is more landing space by the........."

    Well. I wouldn't. You haven't changed the real wall space. Which is 13' ( actually it's 12" 8" ) no matter moving the existing entry forward. I have a QUEEN bed on a 15' wall, and I wouldn't sacrifice a single inch.

    I'm the only one sleeping in that bed btw. You are two full feet short of that wall space.

    152" minus 60" for queen width leaves 92 inches for two side tables can have a nice proportion of 30 wide....

    Do you want to sleep in that bed? You are each in a crib. Just know that.: ) And it cramps the turn at the bath, along with a NOT great view upon entering the room.

    You sleep with eyes closed. Change the windows if you want a beautiful room AND all else.




  • 2 years ago
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    The bed is not on a 20 foot wall. The bed is on a 13'1" wall because 7 feet of that wall is a hallway inside the bedroom. You need a few inches between the bed and any nightstand for bedding and such, they can't all touch, so 36+36+76= 148" or 12'4, not 13'1.


    A king bed on that wall, three feet from the window wall is a tight relationship. It leaves about 3 feet between it and the bathroom wall. It's not like it's impassible or anything, it will function. But it's not going to look or feel very good. You could cheat toward the window, but no more than about 6 inches more or less.


  • PRO
    2 years ago

    What do you want to sleep IN? the view in the middle of the night is NO VIEW'

    A California king measures 72 inches wide by 84 inches long, while a standard king measures 76 inches wide by 80 inches long. That means a California king is 4 inches longer than a king—but it’s also 4 inches narrower.

    CAL king gives you a few more inches at the pinch of entry.

    Palimpest has given you a king BOX spring

    Really, if you want a headboard/footboard, the space definer is that.

    Meaning the bed will really need 84 x 84.....: )

    I'd plan on no more than a 30 inch wide side table and in NO way would I invest in a queen

    This is closer to California KIng - head and foot board total size as Palimpest created for you. Xoxoxo!! to her, I was too lazy : )




  • 2 years ago

    Just for completion, this is how the bed fits on the wall with the windows rearranged:


  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    And it looks so much nicer as well!!!!

    "Just for completion": )

  • 2 years ago

    With the bed between the windows your view is into the bathroom. If you reduce (as I suggested above) the width of the entry by a bit and move the bathroom door to the entry alcove, you can place the bed on the bathroom wall and wake up to a view out the windows.

  • 2 years ago

    This is just purely rotating the bed as I had drawn it, and narrowing the entryway. The king bed will be a little wide for that, but could be tweaked a little, and the bathroom would have to be reconfigured to move the door around the corner. Not insurmountable


  • 2 years ago

    I appreciate everyone's insight! I have a queen size bed currently, and I was not planning on upgrading to a king. But who knows, the house will not be ready for another 9 months or so. If I put a queen size bed there (60" x 80" + additional space for bedding etc), I'm thinking that will give me an extra ~16", so a total space of about 52" between the bed and the bathroom. Thank you palimpsest for the rendering! What program did you use? I would love to play around with a good design program. I tried morpholio once, and I could not get the hang of it. Here is what I was able to create using the snip function on microsoft. If I put the headboard by the windows, then I wont be able to look out the window when I lay in bed awake, which I do often in the mornings. Olychick, I considered moving the bathroom door to the alcove. The problem is that if I put the headboard by the bathroom wall, then I have to go around the bed to access the walk in closet.




  • 2 years ago

    A queen, at 60" instead of a king at 76" will open up a lot of possibilities. I thought I read that you were going to end up with a king.


  • 2 years ago

    No, just a queen :)

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    How long have you had this plan?

    You just got it back from the architect?

    What point in build are you at?

    Can we see the WHOLE thing? Both floors?

  • 2 years ago

    With a queen I would definitely consider changing the wall and having the bed face the windows.

    Here is the bedroom with a queen oriented toward the window. I reconfigured the entryway, and the bathroom. I am not saying that's what you should do with the bathroom necessarily but I would do something to get the bathroom door out into that entryway regardless of the bed position.


  • 2 years ago

    Even if you're happy enough in a queen now, I would not want to restrict a newly built home's main bedroom to that size bed. I would tweak the plan however you need to, to make a king work in the future. You never know what the future brings and what might drive you to change to a king.