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Teasing Georgia - needs a support?

3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago

Hi everyone,

I don't post here often since I seem to fail at most roses so I just lurk and live vicariously through all your photos! :)

Anyway, years ago I was given a Teasing Georgia, which was planted in a non-optimal spot. It was moved last year to a temporary bed, and I now have a good spot for it. Because of it's past life in my garden, it is still rather small and sparse.

My question is, do I need some kind of support for it - a tuteur or obelisk? If I don't use one, will she just sprawl on the ground or will she grow into some sort of upright(ish) shape?

Thanks!

:)

Dee

P.S. edited to ask - if you all do suggest a support, will a garden center run-of-the-mill obelisk work, or do I need something more heavy duty?

Comments (17)

  • 3 years ago

    I never needed support for mine. She shouldbe sturdy enough on her own. Mine was as wide ad tall

  • 3 years ago

    Thanks Kristine - can I ask how big yours is/was?


    :)

    Dee

  • 3 years ago

    I don't even offer support to my gigantic Golden Celebration. I think Kristine's advice is spot on. And best of luck with Teasing Georgia. She now has a chance to be beautiful. Diane

  • 3 years ago

    Mine was probably 6 by 4 at 3 years

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Omg erasmus, that is gorgeous! I think I've seen that second picture before but didn't realize that was Teasing Georgia. Your garden is so lovely!

    I've been reading that it can get up to 12 feet tall! I don't know why but I've always been a bit afraid of big plants lol. I am putting this along a boundary line for privacy, so if it gets that bit that's fine. But I'm hoping it stays a bit smaller. And with my experience with roses, it probably will lol, if it survives! 6 x 4 like Kirstine's would be perfect, but I see that is only a three-year-old plant, so I'm guessing it will be bigger down the road.

    Thank you all for your help! Much appreciated! This rose has sentimental value so I want to keep it going so thanks again!

    :)

    Dee

  • 3 years ago

    Thanks, diggerdee. I have a second own-root TG which is much smaller, about 3' x 2'. It is planted in a lot of shade so that is probably part of the reason. Is yours own root or grafted? Mine came from DA Roses and is on Dr. Huey because I've seen a shoot of Dr. Huey coming from it. Many times in my garden I've found that a second of a particular plant may be an entirely different size. Some spots are better than others in my garden. I too sometimes prefer a plant not get too big.

    Oh, I remember I had planted a TG own root in better sun and it was about 5' tall and 4' wide. If yours is own-root you may not have to worry about it getting too big.

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    I'm in the land of giant roses here (for example, if something could possibly be a climber, like Madame Anisette, Emily Bronte, Benjamin Britton, Lady of Shallot, it will be a big climber in my garden). I have a Teasing Georgia that was planted as a 1 quart own root in the fall of 2020 and it was climbing to the top of an 8 ft high pergola by May 2022. It's growing across the top of said pergola this year... The plant definitely needs support in my climate and it is 4.5 feet wide by 11 feet tall at this point, just 3 years after it was planted.


    Here it was June 2023.

    Erasmus, your garden is always breathtaking!


    Kristine and Erasmus, it's good to see that TG can be a self supporting giant, too!

  • 3 years ago

    Librarian, that's a beautiful and impressive TG, especially as it's own root. I bet one reason your climate is so good for roses is that you probably get plenty of rain.

  • 3 years ago

    Erasmus, I'm sure our climate has something to do with it. My dahlias end up being much bigger than they're supposed to, as well.


    We get good amounts of rain Oct-May reliably. Some bits of rain in June and September.... But sometimes these months are completely dry. July and August we don't get rain and have to supplement.


    I think the relatively gentle winters help, too. We get hard frosts, but usually not colder than 25. There's not much winter dieback. We also don't get very hot in the summer and almost always cool off at night, so everything grows a lot May-September.


    We've got pretty decent soil, too...I'm sure that helps.... And then I compost and mulch on top of that.

  • 3 years ago

    Teasing Georgia can be easily grown as a large shrub. Mine is 6 - 7 feet tall and approx 5 feet wide. I prune it every year by at least 1/3.

    However, due to heavy wind in my area, I do use metal sticks to secure the branches in the spring. Otherwise, the branches with all the blooms will bend all the way to the ground.

    Here is my Teasing Georgia to the left of the photo:


    To the right



  • 3 years ago

    Dreamy pictures. Better htan any magazine!

  • 3 years ago

    Any cold zoners grow this rose? got one coming next year.

  • 3 years ago

    Lovely, Rose Lai.

    No doubt your roses do so well, librarian, partly due to your efforts and know -how. Your climate sounds ideal except for the long drought in summer. We get those too.

    Here are a few more pics of TG:


    I like this paler color best and think more often this is the color it is, overall. To me it harmonizes well with other colors.


    But it can also be a stronger yellow and I like it too:




  • 3 years ago

    Oh my gosh you all have such lovely gardens! I kind of wish I didn't post this question because now I worry someone might ask me for a picture of mine, hahaha!


    Thank you for all the input. I'm wondering if I should put it in a different spot now. I have only a small area that gets full sun, which is where my TG was going to go. I wonder if I put it in a bit shadier spot if it will stay smaller...? But then again, it's such a gorgeous rose I should put it in it's best spot to reach it's best potential.


    Mine is grafted I believe. Okay, I'm going to let you all in on a secret. I mentioned that this rose was in a temporary bed. Well, that's because when I went to dig it up from it's original, less-than-optimal spot, I was rather horrified at the condition of it's roots. Honestly, I don't know how it was surviving and growing and blooming when I saw the roots. Ready.....?






    What the....? What on earth happened, and how did this survive? It's like a piece of thin bark, hanging by a thread, with roots on the end. So instead of putting it in the spot I planned for it (in October with winter coming) I put it in a deep raised bed in my veggie garden, with good soil and in a somewhat protected spot. I was just trying to keep it alive over winter, to be honest. And I've left it there for two years hoping the roots got stronger, if that can possibly happen.


    So now that it has been surviving for two years I've gotten it's new home properly cleared out and prepared, and I am praying it will survive another move and live in it's new home. I won't move it till spring but still I am nervous about it. I know I can always buy another but this, as I mentioned, was a gift from another gardener's gorgeous garden, so I'd like to keep it alive in mine.


    Now that I have no more secrets (lol well, at least about TG) I wanted to thank everyone again for your input and help. And for the pictures.... I think... No seriously, I LOVE seeing the pictures of all your wonderful gardens. It's such an inspiration. Thank you!


    :)

    Dee

  • 3 years ago

    Those are kind words, Dee! So are you saying those root pictures were taken a couple of years ago, and then you planted it in a temporary bed ? It may well have grown some better roots. I'm thinking that when you plant it in the new spot you could plant it a little deeper and it might put out some roots from above the graft...in other words, it might go own-root which would supplement the rootstock's roots. Good luck with it!

  • 3 years ago

    Yes, correct, those are the roots about two Octobers ago, when I went to move the rose. I'm amazed it was doing okay where it was, I'm amazed it survived the move, and I'm amazed it is doing well in the raised bed. I'm hoping it does well in it's permanent home.


    Can that happen? That a rose would put out roots above the graft? Interesting. Well, I will dig the hole before I move it, to make sure I can dig nice and deep. I was just expanding that bed last week and there is still a rock about two feet long, 1 foot or so across, and five inches thick that is laying out there waiting for a stronger back than mine to lift it lol. I guess the good thing about gardening amongst rocks is that when you move one of those suckers, you have an instant hole haha!


    Thank you!

    :)

    Dee