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Any Roses for partial shade ?

Hi

I keep asking this question ! I am looking for healthy roses that bloom well in partial shade : less than 4 hours of sun .

Some good ones for me : Celestial Nights , Violet's Pride , Easy Does it , All My Loving , Voluptuous , Julia Child .

What are yours ?

Comments (20)

  • 2 years ago

    I'm not a rose expert by any stretch of anyone's imagination lol, but I do have quite a bit of shade! My two best performers are Lyda Rose - she is just so lovely - and Darlow's Enigma.


    I just bought an Iceberg after reading that it will do well in part shade, but I just planted her last month so nothing to report yet.


    :)

    Dee

    Pink Rose(9b, FL ) thanked diggerdee zone 6 CT
  • 2 years ago

    You may have already seen this. I came across it when looking to see if I could buy Lyda Rose here.

    33 Beautiful Roses that thrive in Shade


    Pink Rose(9b, FL ) thanked titian1 10b Sydney
  • 2 years ago

    Angel Face (available at Heirloom Roses) can tolerate shade; I can atest that Angel Face is good for 4 hours of sun. Dublin Bay (climber) listed as shade tolerant; I have two one in lot of sun, and one is lesser sun (about 4 hours max); it was very clear that the one in sun is doing so much better.

    Pink Rose(9b, FL ) thanked My Coyne
  • 2 years ago

    Thank you for linking to that scientistsitescientistsite Tishom I agree with many of their suggestions for the shade roses but sally homes black spots terribly here and anything other than full sun And florentina Flow of fantastic but hardly get a bloom. When I move to to sun she blew it out of the park.

    Pink Rose(9b, FL ) thanked Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
  • 2 years ago

    I don't think any rose thrives in the shade in the northern half of the US. Pink rose, you are in Florida and might get away with some roses growing OK in the shade. It's one thing for a rose to "tolerate" shade, and another different thing for that rose to thrive in it. A lot depends on latitude, too. We may be zone 7 here in Boise, but we're very north and I don't grow a single rose that does well in shade. Diane

    Pink Rose(9b, FL ) thanked Diane Brakefield
  • 2 years ago

    Diane

    Unfortunately I have lots of shady areas , from the house itself or from nearby trees . I love roses but maybe I should try other shade loving plants .

  • 2 years ago

    Pink rose, I think there are classes of roses that will handle shade where you are and may even require some to thrive. There are some roses like that here for me and I am farther north than you. I've had to move roses out of direct all-day sun to keep them from growing backward and dying. For me, China roses (most want morning sun for me), some polyanthas and hybrid musks, and roses that require cold winters (not sure if those will even grow in Florida) require a little shade in order to thrive.

    You may have additional problems, though, and people from Florida are far better at advising you than I am. What is making that shade could be what's really causing problems. Trees can pull the moisture and nutrition away from all other plants around them. Sandy/poor soil, nematodes, insects specific to your area, etc., add layers of difficulty. You might even find that the roses that are healthy and do well in shade might be roses you just don't like for some reason. It doesn't hurt to have a Plan B, but my hope is that your Plan A is still workable and that your shady spot is perfect for the right roses.

    Pink Rose(9b, FL ) thanked Karen Service
  • 2 years ago

    Karen

    Actually for me too roses in all day sun eventually lose canes and die because our summers can be brutal . A happy medium is what is needed !

    Every year l evaluate my roses all around the house with differant sun exposure and take out the bad peeformers and put in new ones.

  • 2 years ago
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    I'm still putting Lyda Rose out there lol. Unfortunately I don't have any good pictures of her, but she has reached well over five feet, a beautiful fountain shape, and this is her bloom in about 4 hours of (mostly morning) sun:

    This was from 2018 (she was probably planted, geez, maybe 2012??) and she has only gotten bigger and better since. This was in my customer's garden, and I just planted one this year in my own garden. It is in a spot that gets even less sun than my customer, so I'm not sure how she'll do, and I may have to move her, but IMO she is definitely worth a try, at the very least. And this is coming from someone who has killed more roses than many people ever plant in their garden lol. She's a keeper for me!

    I do understand that, apart from both having lots of shade, we have very different growing conditions, but if you really like roses and want to try this seems like a good one to start with. Also, my Darlow's Enigma is on the north side of my house, gets about 10 minutes of sun (lol, I'm exaggerating but not by much!) and he is not doing *fantastic*, but at a smaller size than his full potential, he does survive and bloom, which is honestly a miracle since I have sorely neglected that bed for over a decade now (I admit with shame...)

    Good luck, and I agree with Karen - I hope your plan A works out for you!

    :)

    Dee

    Pink Rose(9b, FL ) thanked diggerdee zone 6 CT
  • 2 years ago

    I agree with diggerdee, Darlow's Enigma for sure!

    Second place goes to Eyes for You, which is right next to DE against the north facing wall and has been perfect there. Right now my EfY hasn't seen full sun in about a month and won't until March. That isn't stopping her from starting yet another flush.

    Pink Rose(9b, FL ) thanked seasiderooftop
  • 2 years ago

    Erasmus

    Wow beautiful roses ! I especially love the Fawn , since it is disease resistant too .

    I think roses with fewer petals do better in shade ?

  • 2 years ago

    Chiming in to confirm that Celestial Night tolerates shade very nicely. I moved into my current house 2 years ago in late fall and took many roses with me, including my Celestial Night. I planted her in one of the pre existing beds in what I thought was a sunny area, but I had not realized that the vine I planted her next to was one of 3 very old bushy wisterias that form a very thick cannopy when the leaves come in. And came in they did thick and dense in the spring completely shading Celestial Night. The only sunlight she gets is about 2 - 3 hours in the evening when the sun is setting. She doesn't bloom as much as she did in full sun but she does throw out several nice flushes. I'm in zone 6b and it's very humid here and she is disease free even without getting the sun to help dry up some of the moisture. I do live in a very windy property though so that might have contributed


    Hope that helps!

    Pink Rose(9b, FL ) thanked Elestrial 7a
  • 2 years ago

    Brittany

    I love Celestial night so much that I have 3 bushes planted at every angle of the house .

    It never gets any disease and blooms beautifully in flushes .

  • 2 years ago

    Pink Rose


    That is wonderful! I feel like she is an underrated rose, she is so fuss-free and reliable, I think more should grow her :) I may have to add some more of her around my beds

    Pink Rose(9b, FL ) thanked Elestrial 7a
  • 2 years ago

    Twilight Zone, the parent of Celestial night is also shade-tolerant. It likes fluffy & loose soil and lots of rain. Mine is own-root and is in 4 hours of morning sun:


    Twilight Zone has a wonderful scent (clove and old rose) in cold fall, but it's susceptible to blackspots with tons of rain in late fall:


  • 2 years ago

    Karen, I don't know where you're located, but I, too, have the impression that too much broiling hot sun does indeed make roses "grow backward" and eventually die. In fact, this fall I am focusing on planting trees and vines to provide shade. I'm in Tuscany,in Italy, and my garden is on a sharp slope facing the south-west. Any more, summers have become just unbearably hot, both for humans and roses.

    Pink Rose(9b, FL ) thanked User
  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Bart

    I too have a rose bed facing West that gets brutal sun in Summer . Roses die slowly there . . I am growing roses all around the house .


    Straw

    I used to grow Twilight Zone in partial shade , got too much disease so had to S/P it .

  • 2 years ago
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    My zone 5a garden is very shady with many trees and a tall house that shade roses planted next to the house. Below are roses that bloom in less than 4 hours of sun:

    #1 is Abraham Darby, someone else said it blooms in 2 hours of sun, so I put mine in 2 to 3 hours of sun max, right below a tall Japanese Maple tree. Abe is reaching out for dappled sun in below pic:


    #2 is Pat Austin, loaded with blooms in 4 hours of sun max, still has blooms in gloomy fall with 3 hours of sun:


    #3 is Crown Princess Magareta, in 4 to 5 hours of evening sun. Lady of Shalott next to it is stingy, LOS needs more sun than CPM.


    #4 is W.S. 2000, this absolutely hates full-sun, and does best in partial shade, it gets 3 to 4 hours max of morning sun:


    #5 is The Dark Lady, it blooms better in partial shade than Marie Pavie and Cornelia (both need full-sun). It gives gorgeous big blooms in 4 hours of evening sun:


    #6 is Well Being, it blooms better in partial shade than Golden Celebration (this needs full-sun but I'm too lazy to move it for fear of killing Golden Celebration). Well Being gets 4 hours of evening sun:


    Pink Rose(9b, FL ) thanked strawchicago z5
  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Straw

    Your roses are beautiful .l will look into these .

    All Austin that I tried to grow here in FL either did not bloom much or got black spot . Boscobel is the exeption, he is new this year in partial shade and keeps blooming .Olivia Austin is also new behind him and just keeps growing long canes and rarely blooms.