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elm hardwood, tannin bleed

2 years ago

Hi, looking for some advice. We milled, quarter sawn and t&g wood floors. Wanting to keep the natural look. Failed miserably with bona nordic and natural sealers. Any advice for the next attempt? We have 2 major factros, 1) tannin bleed 2) arrid dry conditions(10,000ft in CO). Wood seems to be acting similar to white oak. Wanting to give up on bona....any advice welcome. Thank you.

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  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Pictures will help us, help you. Also, how many coats of sealers was applied?

  • 2 years ago

    The Nordic we did two. Lots of random start/stop marks. No picture. Sanded off. Natural we did one coat. But it was so bad, sanded off last night. We've done poly water and oil on our floors in the past. This floor, we are really wanting to maintain the natural look with a sealer. But these bona sealers are too advanced for our skill and/or complicated with the very dry climate and high tannin pull. 3rd pic is the raw wood. Love your poly floors in your profile. Happy to pay for a consult.

  • 2 years ago

    Go for ceranova raw zero gloss?

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    It's not a product issue. It's a installation issue. Are you a pro or DIY-er? Marks are not tannins, just lap marks.

  • 2 years ago

    DIY with the finish. We milled and installed these ourselves. So much time into them. never tried a sealer with whitener. All other floors we made we just put clear poly on top, but it's been 10 years since our last floor. We do a lot of slab/wood work with Rubio. Just wanted something harder for the floors. Kids and a dog in the mountains. Everything is played on hard.

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Are you rolling or using a T-bar? How many persons are applying the coating?

  • 2 years ago

    Rolling. 2 people, 1 cutting, 1 rolling. We have less than 10% humidity here. Dry time is lightning.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Cool the space down, turn off the heat and apply the product with the space cold. This will help extend the dry time. You can always turn the system back on after a few hours. Or at least until after you are done coating.


    Just walk the roller from end to end. Otherwise, using a product like Bona Classic seal will yield better result at your skill level. Avoid any pigmented finishes.



  • 2 years ago

    Awesome advice. Thank you. Probably going to try classic. Skills are just not there for the whiteners. Desperate to not sand down again. Thankful we made them 3/4"! Funny, not funny. Thanks again for your expertise.

  • 2 years ago

    G&S has this one exactly right. ClassicSeal is the way to go. You DO NOT have tannin pull, but be cautious about applying the sealer too thick or leaving puddles.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    You still have to strip the finish off to apply new stuff.

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