I am just now getting beans in, it may get too hot for them, but I have not had ground ready to plant. We got in one row of zinnia, 2 rows of beans, and 3 rows of peas, they are all short rows 20 to 25 feet.

I am having mole or gopher problems, which I have every year. I use to be able to catch gophers in a box trap, I guess I have lost my touch, I have not been able to catch one in years.

Rick, thanks for starting the thread.

Still need to plant in cowpeas when I get the potato/onion ground cleared out. while there's still moisture in the ground to get them up. Then I'm done for the summer....until fall plantings begin.

Rick

Hello June!

Named for Juno, the Roman goddess of fertility. (Hera in Greek mythology)

Birthstones: the pearl, alexandrite, and moonstone. Zodiac: Gemini and Cancer. Flower: Rose. Month of the longest day--the summer solstice.

And my birth month.

We got rain! Over a half inch.

It was a little wet outside to do much work, but I did pick about a gallon of green beans and a few spears of asparagus.

The cream of asparagus soup is delicious btw. If anyone wants the recipe, let me know.

So....I put insect netting over the cabbages. It mostly worked. I found a couple of loopers. The cabbages didn't do well. I couldn't really figure it out. Decided to pull them tonight. Aphids. They had aphids. The ladybugs couldn't get through the insect netting. Also, normally I do not have to water in May so it's not on my radar to do that. They got too dry a couple of times.

However, I was able to get a few small ones. I chopped them up and they're sitting in their salty bring right now. I'm about to pack them into jars and put the pickle pipes lids on them.

Picked the last of the broccoli and got it cleaned up and in the refrigerator.

The green beans were really dirty from the rain, so washed those up too. I'm going to wait to blanch and freeze. It's getting a little late to start that. I do have to work tomorrow.

The thing that some new gardeners probably don't take into consideration is the amount of time it takes to prepare garden harvests. Those things can't just sit on the counter or in buckets. They need to be dealt with fairly quickly. Yes, cabbage can hold in the refrigerator, but it's easy to forget about it as it gets pushed to the back. Especially if it's in the shop refrigerator, in my case.

And sometimes there's just not the space to store it all in the refrigerator.

And, I don't grow and harvest food to let it sit and go bad. That makes me crazy. And I don't can food to sit in the pantry as little trophies. Ya know? Too much time and energy go into preserving food. I want to eat it!

It's been a good day. Very thankful for the rain.

And thankful for the harvests.

We got 7/10” heavy rain right after we got home from church - I stayed out last night watering until 9:30. 🤷‍♀️

Jennifer I am snapping beans tonight too, will rinse and put in icebox. Husband has early doctor appointment tomorrow so will blanch and freeze when get home. I’ve enjoyed them 3 times already this week. Squash and zuchinni about 3” long, several cucumbers a day. Picked last of broccoli, pulled and gave to cows, then planted green beans back. Should have ripe tomatoes this week. I have been doing the banana peel water, think it has helped. Cow peas are coming up and okra about 4” high. Several tomatoes have curl, not sure what thats about

Glenda, Madge is doing the banana peel thing also, and my okra is about 4" tall also, but I just put bean seeds in the ground today. Madge and I both have been going to the Dr. so much it just seems so hard to get anything done.

I have tomatoes from 6" tall to 6' tall, but I am also having some disease issues on my tomatoes, and something is eating on my plants. We picked the first two tomatoes, but it looks like it will be a while before we get anymore. I think that I need to feed my plants. I don't have compost anymore, so I will have to use chemical fertilizer. I try to stay on the lite side of fertilizer, it is a lot easier to add than to take away. Some of my plants are so stunted from sitting in the little 6 packs and solo cups too long, I am not sure they will ever produce.

Rick, I hope your sweet potatoes do well, so far I am happy with the way mine are growing. I still don't have mine weeded very well, but they look a lot cleaner. While weeding I found out that mine are already starting to make potatoes, or at least one plant is.

The ones I planted a week or 10 days ago are doing pretty well also.

24 of these 33 slips were just runners that I pulled from the plants in the south garden, but they have all taken root and seen to.

This is the north garden, and a lot of it is in the shade of an oak tree, also it a very wet garden in the spring, you can tell that by all the moss on the soil.

The peppers in the upper right look sick. The peppers nearly starved in the six packs, but when they are in the soil long enough to pick up some nitrogen the should start pulling out of their stunted state, if not I still have plenty.

It started raining and I had to quit weeding an and try to get the lawn mowed. I almost got the lawn mowed, but the grass got so slick that I could not control the mower.

From the other thread....

That is a lot of rain, Kim. That is unusual for you, right?

Most of my onions have fallen over even tho the leaves are still green. I posted at the other place asking for advice. Would you leave or pull?

I got a couple of quarts of kraut. Not horrible, but wanted more. I'll try cabbage again in the fall.

After work, I'll see if we had anymore rain today. It rained hard at work for awhile.

Once I know the rain situation, I'll decide my evening plans. Tom is cooking tonight. He likes to make Chinese food once in a while. I prefer Thai food. Something about the combination of the red and/or green curry and coconut milk just does it for me.

Glenda, do you prefer frozen green beans too? The canned ones are good enough, but tend to be mushy. I prefer frozen if I can't have them fresh.

I looked at the shop freezer last night. I really need to clear out a few things. I have a couple of bags of green beans from last year. Didn't know they were in there. And still some corn on the cob and a few bags of okra. Some of the okra is prebreaded. I really need to get that used up soon.

I'm making lamb burgers one night this week. Corn on the cob and okra should go well with that, I think.

I think Amy posted on last week's thread. I'm going back to read it.

I found y’all. We were still on May time. Pulled all the onions I could find in the in ground bed. They were flipped over and mush stems. I got a lot of nice size ones considering I messed up.

Almost 3 inches of rain today. Have some onions and garlic curing and more onions still growing.

oldbusy1, lookin good.

That looks awesome

Looks good, oldbusy.

We got some rain. A bit over 3 inches last night. I had fallen asleep on the couch watching TV because Tom wasn't feeling well and woke up to it around 1230. I do like a thunderstorm mostly....but get that sometimes they're destructive in different ways.

I also received a message about a friend who is in the hospital and isn't doing well at all and coded 3 times last night. I got the message around 2 am. I was awake from 1230 to 430 and went to the bed and was able to fall asleep. Our power went off briefly. Luckily came right back. I was worried about my friend and my cat who is in a catio on the shop porch. Cat is fine. Friend isn't.

Last night I was able to tie up half of the tomatoes in the kitchen garden. I feel better about them now because they're not sitting in the mud. But, the other ones are. And all of the ones in the SG. It's too muddy to deal with those right now. I could probably tie up the remaining ones in the kitchen garden because I have paths that are covered in woodchips.

However, I really do need to work indoors today on a few projects and tasks.

Maybe I'll get outside later this afternoon or after Pilates to work on the other ones.

Hi y'all. I read here every day, I just have problems posting, so I don't do as many posts. I went back and read last week's thread, too.

Holy cow, Kim, are you on high ground? No danger of flooding?

Larry, I suggest you grow your long day onions in pots. They won't take up a lot of space in your garden and you can control when they are planted. You could even plant them around the edges of a mineral tub and put a small plant in the center like a pepper or dwarf tomato. You can grow them from seed.

Nice work Oldbusy!

Lamb burgers, Jennifer? Interesting. Ron likes ground lamb in shepherd's pie. I have a Greek pasta dish that uses ground lamb. I once made swedish meatballs with a mix of lamb and beef. I can't tell you how it was because after the extra expense of the lamb and the time spent making meatballs my crockpot died and they sat for several hours without heat. The kids were little then and it was an extravagance I didn't repeat.

XOXO

Amy, I like the idea of trying the long day onions in mineral tubs. I grew some walking onions, and bunching onion in a tub with a tomato last year, and it worked fine.

We got quite a bit of rain, it started yesterday and lasted till a couple of hours ago. Its a little too wet to do much in the garden. I have to be careful where I step, some areas are very soft, but my soil will go from soup to sidewalk in a short time.

I had to tie up a few tomatoes, but I did not notice any damage.

Lamb is so costly, Amy. I wanted to do a traditional winter solstice meal a few years back and wanted lamb. I quickly changed my mind and substituted.

I'm made lamb meatballs a couple of times and a few other things with lamb. It's good.

The best thing was a lamb loin. Trick is to not overcook it.

See...our friends raise lambs and sometimes give one to us. Tom and Friend trade out stuff at times. We pay for the processing. They found a place that does it incredibly cheap.

I feel good about eating it because I know how much he cares for his lambs. They've eaten grass and that's it.

We've also raised a pig at his place too.

This guy really enjoys his lambs. He also has goats and a few other things....but sheep are his favorites.

I've noticed that lately the homesteading YouTubers are raising lamb for meat....and someone was for dairy too.

Amy I am on high ground. But our ground is so saturated water is standing everywhere. It hasn’t had time to seep out. My plants are so stressed. I have a huge bag of plant tone that I have been applying once a week since this all started a month ago. Drought is horrible but so is monsoon. And don’t get me started on grasshoppers. They make me very sad.

I got tired of paying people to process my animals and built my own walk in cooler and processing room. Watched a lot of videos on cutting up meat. Have my own equipment.

oldbusy, what does it cost to run a walk in cooler?

It's a window unit air conditioner. I use a cootbot. To get it to cool lower. Walls are 6" thick with closed cell foam board. I only use it when I need to.

My tomatos are getting dime to quarter size hail. Its been a rough year .

I think my Mom lives near you, Lynn. She texted a few minutes ago and said it was hailing there.

Thanks, Oldbusy. I've had a dream to have a walk-in type of cool room to store veggies like onions and potatoes.

We got over an inch last night. That puts us at about 5 and a half inches since Monday.

At this point, we're a little too wet. I don't hate it, tho.

It does make things a mess. Our yard is a pond right now. We don't have those drainage things in our streets like the city streets have.

The chicken pen is always yucky too....as well as parts of their yards. Their dusting bath holes fill up with rain. Eggs get dirty.

Corn is lying over from wind but also just because the ground is so wet and muddy.

The floor of the catio gets yucky. Juno's litterbox is on the floor of it. I cleaned it all up yesterday but will need to do it again. It's not as bad as yesterday.

Good thing I don't have the onions curing on the shop porch. That's what happened last year, I think. Why the onions didn't store well. We had a couple of sideways rains that got them wet.

I'm going to do the dog crate thing and put them in the shop. The shop can get very hot, but I'll open the doors while I'm home. Honestly, the first year I grew onions out here, I cured them in the shop and they lasted until the following spring.

Overall, I'm glad to have rain. But, we have enough for a while now. It would be good to have a break.

I'm not sure what garden tasks I'll do today. I grabbed the green beans last night and had another half-gallon or so. It was a muddy task. We'll probably eat these fresh and I won't freeze them.

Also got a zucchini. Maybe the first and last. Squash bugs are awful already. I've kept them cleared off the Seminoles, tho.

Anyone see SVB moths yet?

Aphids continue to be bad on my property. We have plenty of ladybugs and saw a few green lacewings too. They're like little fairies. I really like them. Even their eggs look magical.

Maybe I'll continue to tie up the tomatoes in the kitchen garden this evening....and prune their lower branches.

I'm about to go to north OKC to visit a friend so should finish dressing now. Just thought I would check in.

Lynn, hows your tomatoes?

More rain last night and hail. No damage but there is 1” of water standing in my garden area. Today and Saturday I will finish all planting. Monday I leave for a week and do not need any high maintenance garden stuff left behind. I had to chop down my charge and celery. I hope the come back. The grasshoppers have taken out a few things when the wind removes the insect netting they are waiting to dive in.

That was supposed to say chard

We had a nice day today, but I did not do much. I had test this morning, and just did not feel like doing much after I got back from the clinic.

I did however tie up some of my tomatoes and dig some bunching onions. So far I think I am liking what I am seeing in the bunching onions. I should have dug them sooner, but I have no idea what I am doing with the onions, I don't even know what kind they are so I can read about them.

busy1, I like the cool room. Do you have to buy a certain brand of type of window unit? I assume that the "33" on the display is the discharge temp on the evaporator to control the expansion valve or compressor to keep the evaporator from freezing over, and let the compressor run to max pressure? I Have never heard of a coolbot, but that sounds like a much better deal than to go with a commercial unit.

I did pick up 4 more bags of potting soil when we came by the Poteau Farmers Co-op, I still have more mineral tubs to get ready for planting. Amy, I think that one of my mineral tubs will be used for me to play with trying to grow green onions, but the onions may be pretty strong when grown in warm weather, or they will just bolt.

Larry there are some requirements for the window unit for the coolbot to work. The coolbot website has all the information. You also need r-25 insulated walls and ceiling and floor. Mine is inside a building so the only wall exposed to the outside is the north wall. I had to work with what I couldcouldcouldc

This website is terrible for posting on.

I pulled more onions today. It's so wet I couldn't get all the way to the west end. 6" of rain this week. The tops hadn't fallen over but were getting soft. It's just mud out there.

Those are southern bell red and super star white . The candy onions are still growing. I still have one row of huckleberry gold potatoes to dig. They are supposed to be a low glycemic potato. Maybe I can get them dug tomorrow so they don't rot in the ground.

busy1, your produce looks good. I expect that you are having a tough time with the onions, like most of us. I don't expect to get a good cure on mine, it has just been too wet. I did separate some of the sets of the ( new to me ) bunching onions that I have been playing with this year, so far they are giving me hope in the way that I want to use them. I would also like to play with some Potato onions, I had not heard of them till a year or two ago, and as far as I know, I have never seen one.

Kim, it's really too bad all that rain didn't take out some of the grasshoppers. Maybe it killed their eggs and you'll have a reduction in them next year.

The cool room. I want one now.

Larry, your onions look good. I might pull some of mine tomorrow. We've dried out a little now.

Never heard of potato onions.

I worked a long day yesterday and had a hard time getting motivated once home. I picked up a cold from somewhere. It's not bad, just enough to make me feel a little off. AND I can't see the baby with a cold.

I did pull it together and go outside. I was able to weed some beds and grab a few more chamomile flowers to dry. The plants are starting to fade out, but I have what appears to be tiny chamomile plants coming up by the dozens. I was warned this would happen.

I'm afraid I won't have ripe heirloom tomatoes by the end of the month if they don't hurry up. I really want to take some seed and restart it for fall. Once I pull the garlic and onions, I can put the fall tomatoes in that location.

There's aphids all over the dwarf and microdwarf tomatoes in the Vego bed. So very irritating. We have them on the other tomatoes in the other garden areas too, but so far, the ladybugs and green lacewings have kept them from destroying the plants. These dwarf ones might not make it. The little plants are loaded with fruit too.

I saw an assassin bug sitting on a German Johnson. I've tried to relocate assassin bugs to the corn or squash when I can. I really don't want them eating the ladybugs. Maybe eat a squash bug instead? A corn earworm?

We have a lot of assassin bugs out here.

Not really a lot to talk about. I'm at the garden maintenance period. Luckily don't have to water for awhile. Not much to harvest. Just a bit or asparagus, the green beans and blackberries. And the onions and garlic this weekend. A few peppers.

I think I'll grab the green beans and get my housework done now.

Take some echinacea tincture. Try to kick this cold.

Jennifer, why don't you just take a sucker(s) off some of your favorite tomato plants for fall, I plan on doing the same thing, but I have to get a place ready first. Jennifer, I think you win the prize for top Aphid Farm, I thought that I was in the running, but you have me beat.

I am having some disease showing up on my tomatoes, I have that every year, but it seems sooner this year, maybe because of so much rain.

I need to go cut more trellis material to support some of my plants, for small plants I use #3 or #4 rebar. If I were starting over I would use a different trellis system, but its too late in the game to switch now.

Jennifer, I feel sure that I have some rooting hormone, somewhere, but I haven't use any in many years. I have pretty good luck just sticking the sucker into the soil and keep it watered well. As hot as I expect the weather to get, I think I would try rooting into potting soil, with the container sitting in the shade, maybe on the porch where I could keep an eye on it. Last year all my fall tomatoes were rooted suckers. I think your greatest problem on rooting suckers is not being able to watch them closely enough, if you put them in a protected environment till roots started forming I believe your success rate would go up, the hot sun is murder starting plants.

Jennifer, I went back and watched your aphid video again, I had not noticed that the aphids were on the dwarf tomato plants, I just noticed a good healthy herd of aphids. I think you dwarf plants are thicker than mine, but, mine get more shade than I had planned.

My plants start getting shade about mid day, I hope to change that by next year.

At this point my tomatoes have about 6 tomatoes per plant, but they are hard to see.

This is my tallest tomato. The tomato is some kind of weird one that Madge had ordered seeds for. We had a plant that I think was the same as this one year before last, it was a dud. I told Madge that we would not grow that one again, but I must have found some of those seeds again this year.

This weird plant is over 6' tall, and looks better than the other tomatoes.

I think the name listed on the seed pack, was something like "Orange and Purple hybrid". I though that these were some of the tomato seeds that she liked, but we will see.

It's already getting hot. That or I'm just losing my heat tolerance. Jennifer, we have serious aphid problems EVERY year. So bad that we don't grow melons anymore and if I don't hit them with insecticide, they will obliterate the tomatoes, cowpeas, strawberries, etc.

Last year when the cowpeas were putton on pods, every single pod looked black. They were all completely covered with aphids. They'll just suck the plant dry. Terrible things. The ladybugs, although out in force, will get overwhelmed. I need some aphid assassin bugs and a whole lot of them.

We took the last of the cabbage today and have had the sorriest onion harvest since I've been growing. Guess that'll happen when about 2/3 of them get caught in a landslide and tossed out of the garden (3 TIMES!)...then have a huge maple come down on them. Copenhagen early lived up to his name and were about 4 weeks earlier than the red. Di Cicco(?) broccoli did really well. Just have to take the beets and I think that is it for the cool season stuff.

Last year, we grew some pretty good tomatoes, but I agree with Larry...when the heat is on, it's just really hard to nurse them through. I seem to always mis-time when to put in fall tomoatoes anyway. They seem to ALMOST be ready to produce and then an overnight frost in October roughs em up.

Hope everyone is doing well and recovering from this crazy spring!

Jennifer I don’t know sbout your FB page but ironically I too have an aphid problem. several of the tomatoes had a curl, deformity issue from who knows what and last night I went out to a tomato completely, i mean every inch covered with aphids and one ladybug. . i should have pulled it up snd put in dumpster but it had been a bad day so I moved the ladybug and then covered that plant with Sevin. This morning I hosed it down with a hard stream of water and tonight will pull it out and put in trash. So discouraging to work so hard to fight the bugs and weather. I have several large gorgeous tomatoes right on verge of ripening, but the tiny tiny grasshoppers are multiplying rapidly. Brought in green beans, zuchinni, yellow squash, onions, and cucumbers.

i have a new garden tool - clear shower curtain

hooks, to hook up cucumber vines, peas vines, and even tomatoes. Use them to train vines, then remove them and move them higher - work great and at $1 for 8 good value. Figure I can reuse a couple of years

i am trying to add photo but after 3 tries it may still not show up - have already had to retype this post twice. Houzz does not accept my posts readily. I’m not as savy as some of you

Well I completely forgot about carrots. Anybody yanking them out yet? I was looking at my seed packet the other day and it points to next week. Maybe I'll poke around and check on a few. They seem to have done really well just judging by the tops.

Shower curtain hooks

Larry, the aphids are on the micro dwarf plants that I got from Jen and the Hardins Miniature that I started from seed. The dwarf ones from you are in the hoop house raised bed. So far they're healthy.

All of the micro dwarf plants are absolutely loaded with dozens of fruit. They are thick little plants with tons of fruit that grows inside and below the foliage. It's just sad.

Josh, for us, it is anything pea that gets mostly destroyed by aphids. I love sugar peas and snow peas, but it's pointless to grow them....although Rick put English peas in the SG and they did considerably well. Maybe, that part of the garden's ecosystem is improving. Even long noodle beans were destroyed by aphids a couple of years ago. Maybe someday I'll try them again.

Normally, tomatoes get aphids here, but recover quickly.

Perhaps this being a new veggie area is the issue???

Sorry about your melons. What types of melons have you tried?

I love that you are able to get red cabbage! I've never had success with it. I'll need to try that variety.

I hate hot weather too. It's what makes me look for other places to live every summer. LOL

I do have a kid in Oregon. Hmmm.....

If I had the ability financially, I seriously would live in Oregon during the summers in a "granny pod" in my son's future house. Tend a little garden there. And then live here the rest of the year--close to my daughter. That's a huge dream of mine.

That's a great idea, Glenda! Shower curtain rings. I'll have to try that once my cucumbers hopefully get big enough to climb the trellis.

Seems like several of us have aphid issues. Dawn never did.

It's funny that you mentioned carrots. I pulled my fall carrots. They're always ready the NEXT season from when I planted them. So weird. I left a little too long. I knew that were ready a month ago. I still managed to get some use from them. Carrots are a thing. I'm going to try them in the Vego beds this fall.

The peppers loved the rain and are really loading up with fruit. I'm so thankful for this after two bad pepper years.

Sugar Rush Peach. Wow. I ate one tonight. It wasn't peach colored yet...just yellow. Even so, it was hot, but the after taste was like a peach jolly rancher. I'm a fan and need to figure out what to do with them.

It's one of the ones that's new to me this year.

Rick planted cowpeas tonight. The SG is fully planted now, other than a few cantaloupe that will go in once the english peas are pulled.

That's all for me.

Yes, oldbusy1 , this message forum format is terrible for posting.

A month ago, I planted two packets of Ferry Morse cucumber seed I'd bought at Home Depot back in January. Was dated to be sold 2024. It was under an 8 foot cattle panel for a trellis. I got three plants. My first thought was the guy that sprayed pre-emergent on my lawn got over into the garden, but I got weed, and volunteer basil, and marigold popping up in the same area. Next year, I'm getting all my seed from Johnny's or Southern Exposure.

The hail the other night did not bother my tomatos, nor anything else. I'm bringing in a few tomatos every day. Nothing like last year, which was an incredible year for me with numbers. But much better than 2022.

I saw this segment on Oklahoma Gardening a couple weeks ago and I think I'm gonna submit a sample from my sick tomatos. I've got six plants out of 24 that are effected. Two have died, two are on life support, and two are hanging in there and may start putting on blooms. Still remains a puzzle.

And oh yeah, I got a lawn project I'm dreading and waiting for it to dry out. I gotta fill in my front yard where the red bud tree was at. Its a mess. I'm gonna have to till the area where the tree was at to smooth it out. And I'm still digging out roots that are on the surface. I'm sure I'll find more when I run the tiller through it.

And I'm tying this project to another one. I'm widening a sidewalk in the backyard with paver stones to make a space to use my Kettle grills. And I'm gonna take the bermuda I dig out , and plant it in the front yard where the tree was at.

The tree was killing my lawn in the front yard. It sucked all the nutrients and water out. I could not put enough water on the lawn. The grass was not thick enough to shade weed seed and weed was taking over. And under the tree was bare dirt that was getting washed out with heavy rains. I liked the tree, loved to see it bloom in March, but its causing me a lot of work.

I'm too dam old for this stuff, but I ain't about to hire it done. These are times I wish I'd had a couple sons instead of daughters :)

Pic doesn't do justice to the depth of the hole the tree left.

Lynn, welcome to the club, it seems like the world is being overrun with old people, I know a lot more old people than young ones, it seems strange, the old ones are the ones that are dying, but new old ones are popping up everywhere.

Good luck with the daughters, I have 2 of each, and one daughter is the only one to try to help me. My oldest daughter is a widow, but has met a man that I have only seen a few times, but he has already done more for me than my two sons.

Kim, Madge picked the first tomato from the plant that you gave us. We have picked 5 tomatoes this year from other plants, but one was damaged, it looked like it might have a worm in it, but it being so early in the year I thought surely it is something else.

Jennifer I am glad the dwarf plants that I gave you are doing well. I now have 2 dwarf plants in the ground in the north garden. I am late with about everything this year. We got rain again today, it may still be raining. My hay needs to be baled, but we are going to have to get some sonny weather for that to happen.

Lynn, I planted 6 rows of peas about the first of the month, and only one row has come up. The seed that did not come up were bought seeds, I have some seeds that I saved, I think that I will just go ahead and plant my saved seeds. I have heard that the rain could pack the soil so that the seed would not come up, I cant say that I believe that, but we did get a very hard, packing rain the night I planted the pea seeds, and the only seeds that came up were in an area with a lot of organic matter, and the soil did not pack.

I just got in from checking my north and south garden, one row each of Taylor horticulture beans, and Knuckle Purple peas, the other 5 rows are a no-show, other than a few that in a heavy straw/soil mix.

Insects are coming on strong, especially the grasshoppers, the weeds are really kicking in also.

Glad you are getting tomatoes Larry. I got a few porters. I go on vacation this week so we’ll see what happens.

I think that I have got 2 or 3 peppers, Hungarian yellow wax, Madge picked them thinking that they were sweet banana, they were too hot for her. I noticed this morning that we had a few Ashe county, and jalapeno that should be ready in a few days.