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Must have roses from Rose Barni?

2 years ago
last modified: 2 years ago

I am planning to get Kordes Quicksilver from Rose Barni in the autumn, as it’s the only EU supplier of that rose. To justify postage, I have a minimum of three rule, so I’m wondering if there are any really great roses either bred by Barni or otherwise exclusive to them anyone call tell me about?

I don’t have space for massive shrubs, nor much space to put climbers because all my boundaries are trees and hedges or hot stone walls, so recommendations for compact shrubs would be especially welcome. Roses also have to be tolerant of very hot sun and heavy rain in my location.

However, I’m keen to hear of ANY Barni rose that does well for you, regardless of size, because they are not a breeder I’m at all familiar with and you never know..

I’m not sure if I can post a link to their site, but type rosebarni. it if you would like to see their current catalogue.

Thanks in advance!

Comments (9)

  • 2 years ago

    Before I can respond to your question, I have to wipe the drool off my keyboard. My word, they have some lovely and unobtainable roses (for us in the US). Even with the obvious photoshopping of the colors, there are some striking roses. I'd crawl through broken glass for Modarosa or Ottavio Missoni, so in your shoes I'm be buying those just to give them a try.


    Among those I have experience with, Twilight Zone might be a good counterpart for Quicksilver. It doesn't get that big for me but in zone 9 it's another matter. Tempi Moderni is a striking bright colored rose that I keep begging to survive my winters (it's on its sixth "last try" this year) and I'm pretty sure it would be modest sized for you.

    Austins that stay small for me would be Lady of Shalott or Boscobel, but any Austins given that much water and heat might explode for you. Desdemona is lovely and at 17.5 Euros it's a deal.

    Wow, there are some price differences in their roses! I can't imagine paying 94 Euros for a rose however much I wanted it (even Mokarose).

    Have fun scrolling the catalog.

    Cynthia

  • 2 years ago

    Boscobel gets huge for me, so it might not stay small in Spain. Definitely small and quite a wonderful, continuous bloomer is the older Austin, Tamora. Could it be found in Europe? This rose is the smallest of my Austins and I've grown it for many years. And Tamora is in a full sun scorching spot and does just fine. Diane

    Tamora amongst the Snapdragons and Ballerina.


  • 2 years ago

    The Rose Barni site always puts me in a tizzy. ”Lake Como,” ”Niso Fumagalli,”, and ”Rita Levy Montalchini (sp?) - I’d cross the seas for those. I do agree that the colors are seriously oversaturated.

  • 2 years ago

    Roses Unlimited has Niso Fumagali in its June sale at present, and often sells Rita Levi Montalcini. No crossing the seas for that one! I agree about the tizzy though.

    Cynthia

  • 2 years ago

    Oh dear, I do apologise for the drool and tizzy-inducing question, so thank you for so nobly participating, nippstress, Diane and Sylvia 😊


    Cynthia, I am determined to get a Twilight Zone this year, having missed out on it several years in a row, so that is definitely on my Barni list.


    Most of the Austins mentioned, LoS, Bosco etc. I already have or they are freely available here at (ahem!) even lower prices, but I have never seen Tamora, Diane. I would happily pay a premium to get her, but many of the older Austins you can get seem lost to commerce here.


    I do love experimenting with new suppliers/breeders and since it would be discourteous in the extreme not to try at least one of Barni‘s own roses, I really appreciate your suggestions. Many of those, such as Tempi, Niso and Rita, would blend well in my existing beds.


    I also saw on an old revived thread tuderte’s amazing Sans Souci, probably much too large for me, but wow, it might be worth bulldozing some space somewhere to grow that!

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Cynthia, the 94 Euros entry in the catalog is for a collection of six plants, not for just one rose https://shop.rosebarni.it/it/Rosai/1499-1324-offerta-eleganza-rn.html#/26-tipo-radice_nuda; all of the entries starting with the word "offerta" are so-they are collections of plants,not individual ones. None of the single HTs cost more than 17.50. The most expensive roses in their catalogue are the "alberelli ad alto fusto"- weeping tree roses,which cost 41.90 euros,but this type of plant is always expensive .

    Though Barni's photographs are undeniably not of high quality, this is an honest rose nursery with good,big,healthy plants. I feel the need to write this since so recently on the forum we have been seeing rose sellers of highly questionable if not inexistent integrity with extremely sophisticated photographs of roses attempting to sell people teeney tiny sticks of plants (many illegally obtained, to boot) for outrageously high prices. I'd prefer cheesey photography but beautiful plants instead of the other way around!

  • 2 years ago

    Thanks for the clarification Bart - I didn't notice that it was a collection for the higher prices. In general their prices were excellent and I can always look up the photos somewhere else to see what the colors really look like. I can't take advantage of their roses but it's wonderful to hear that they have healthy plants. I have enjoyed the few Barni roses I have been able to obtain and hope some day more of their offerings will move this direction

    Cynthia

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Nollie

    Don’t know if you are considering a climber, but Barni has this incredibly fragrant variety Brise Parfum (Perfume Breeze in US) . It blooms very freely and has a fragrance that wafts like no other. When I purchased a plant last year, I left it outside on my patio and could smell it inside the house if the breeze blew the right way. Tom Carruth had this impressive dome structure built at a famous public garden so folks could best enjoy the scent


    And lucky for you, it’s Barni own variety, and you don’’t need to worry about people crossing the continent to critique you about purchasing a legal plant.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Hi Ben, thanks so much for dropping in! Coincidentally, Vaporvac suggested I look at Brise Parfum on another one of my threads, here:

    https://www.houzz.com/discussions/6447237/suggestions-for-a-short-climber-for-a-metal-arbour-in-full-sun#n=36

    I have so few places for climbers though. One is the above arbor and that already has Quicksilver and Pax competing for it. I am very tempted to try Brize though. Perhaps I should get it anyway, then have my usual rose panic about where to put everything!

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