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Tile help needed! Suggestions welcome!

2 years ago

Good morning! I am updating this bathroom with tile and paint and am welcoming input. The new tile hasn’t been picked out yet, but we are looking for a cool neutral. We will go up to the ceiling. Should we extent the tile also to the entire back wall? What about the connecting wall with the other window? What about the painted walls on the outside of the shower? We are paining the cabinets white. The countertops are staying 🙄. We will most likely take the mirror out and install framed ones. LVP flooring will be placed over the existing floor. Light neutral gray. TIA

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  • 2 years ago

    Two more

  • 2 years ago

    You need to demo that tile and the wall, especially the shower, then new cement board with topical waterproofing/membrane or waterproof board product. Your are not just updating tile. That tile if installed properly will not come off the substrate besides.

  • 2 years ago

    Dump the tub.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    A few thoughts - I would really rethink grey LVP, it was somewhat trendy several years back and it makes it super hard to choose finishes for the rest of the room

    putting LVP over your tile floor will impact all the door clearances - including the shower door, so make sure you are planning for that (i would not do this, but to each his/her own)

    as @millworkman said you can’t just pop off shower tile without impacting waterproofing so make sure if change the tile in the shower, everything comes out, it is re waterproofed before new tile comes in

    FWIW if it were me and I was not up for a total gut $$$ renovation, I would change the counter & wall paint and leave the rest

  • 2 years ago

    Tiling is no small job. You can't just pluck them off or tile over existing ones. It is a demo job and along the lines of what you do for a complete renovation.


    If you are looking for more of a simple cosmetic make over, keep your current tile, get new countertops, paint the vanity and paint the walls. It will be much less expensive, less labor intensive, and a faster timeline to completion.


    If you love the countertop then certainly keep it. To me it is the bossiest most outdated cosmetic part of your room. Your tiles are neutral enough you could create so many looks with them.

  • 2 years ago

    It looks like you have a curbless shower. I don't see how you can try to put LVP over the floor tile with a curbless shower. I hope you understand that "updating tile" is a full demo and re-build of the structure and waterproofing in the shower. Tearing down to the studs, rebuilding the walls and building a waterproofing system, including new shower pan. Tile is just the last piece of the system.

  • 2 years ago

    " It looks like you have a curbless shower. I don't see how you can try to put LVP over the floor tile with a curbless shower. "


    Good catch as I did not look that close. Picklypearcactus is spot on.

  • 2 years ago

    Another "brown trend" bathroom with "gray trend" paint on the walls.


    What don't you like?

    What is the reason for the update? Is something leaking?

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    So you are ripping out the whole thing but keeping the counters which IMO are driving the bus . As said removing and retiling is a gut job.You do not do LVP on top of other tflooring and IMO you never stack floor on floor . I agree LVP can't work in this space anyway. This is an all or nothing job.

  • 2 years ago

    I think one of the issues here is that there are people posting videos on YouTube showing how you can "tile over tile" using OmniGrip (I think that's what it's called - something close to that).


    One such YouTube personality is Home RenoVision DIY - he has A LOT of followers (maybe the most out of any of the people who make these types of videos - he has well over 3 million subscribers). While he has some helpful videos (I found him when I was having an issue with something minor that I was pretty sure that I could adress it without calling someone and spending $$$). He is appealing to many because he comes across as an honest and knowledgeable person. I would label him as a "master handyman" (that is not a jab - I would LOVE to have a trusted person that I could call for different little projects around my house - and know that they will be done well - e.g., hanging a slab door - he has a good video on how to do that correctly - and it worked well).


    He also has a video showing how to tile over a tiled tub/shower surround using OmniGrip. He emphasized that you can only do this if the surround is completely intact = zero issues.


    There are other similar videos. Sal DiBlasi is a well respected tile professional (according to the pros over on John BridgeTile forum) - and he has a video where he tiled over the tile on a shower pan. The owners didn't want to redo the entire shower - just the shower pan tile. He personally built the shower pan and installed the existing tile. He knew that the shower pan was built correctly + it was fully intact (no cracking grout or other signs of issues underneath the tile). However, it wasn't a curbless shower.


    My point is that this is why people come on Houzz and believe that they can just update the tile - without a complete tear out. OP probably found one of these videos (or knows someone who did) - and wants to do the same thing.


    I am NOT suggesting that this is a good idea! I am merely explaining a possible reason why OP thought that the tile could simply be updated.


    I think a HUGE issue with these types of videos is that the average person doesn't know how his/her shower pan was constructed - or how to check to make sure that the existing tile on a tub/shower combo surround is completely intact - and shows zero signs of any issues behind the tile.