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north facing shade border

2 years ago

Hi! I have a LONG bed about 15’x2’ along the north facing wall of my house that is filled with overgrown (10+ years old) siberian irises and ditch lilies. I tried to divide them last year in an attempt at tidying things up but they are really wild now and just need to be dug out and given a fresh start. The bed in near full shade all the time but it is relatively bright shade with a but more brightness on one end (where most of the irises are) than the other end (where the day lilies are)

My thoughts are:

  1. Keep everything as is but divide everything ruthlessly
  2. Create a shade bed with maybe some hostas alternating with ferns and irises + daylilies tucked in between at some intervals
  3. Same as #2 but boxwoods with hostas and ferns tucked in between at intervals for a mainly green border

Any thoughts on the above or better ideas?? Also, I’ve never grown hostas before - do you think the flowers will all lean heavily towards the sun making the bed attractive? Ie, should I skip the hostas? ?

Thank you!

Comments (9)

  • 2 years ago

    In zone 7a Connecticut I'd like you to consider including more evergreen perennials.

  • 2 years ago

    I love a shade garden. Start with perennial evergreens as the bones of this garden so you have something to look at in winter when everything else is dead. Then lace in Solomon seal, ferns, hosta, coral bells so you have variety in texture and shape. You can get a surprising amount of color going with variation of hosta, fern, and coral bells.


    I'm not a fan of boxwoods. They are so structured and at times very fussy. Too much shade and they can brown. Can you show a picture so we can suggest evergreen plant heights that will look good in this space?

  • 2 years ago

    Can you post a picture?

  • 2 years ago

    The hostas will lean, but it's fine, most people don't grow them for the flowers. Hostas will thrive in dry, dark shade. You can get them in all sorts of leaf colors, providing some variation in your bed. That said, hostas are boring and not native.


    There are plenty of lovely natives that will thrive in your garden. I have a lot of Tiarella Coridifolia in my shady garden. I have Marginal wood ferns. Christmas ferns are evergreen. I don't water my ferns all that often. I have some Solomon Seal, Goatsbeard and lots of violets. The tiarella, violets and Solomon seal bloom in the spring, goatsbeard in the summer, and I have asters for the fall. You need to check the varieties for being native.


    Anemones, Astlibe, Bishop's hat, and foxfgloves are flowering non-natives that could add some color.

  • 2 years ago

    Thank you for the wonderful ideas! What type of evergreen perennials would you recommend? I was hoping for something that is kind of tall - maybe 3 ft that I can space at intervals as it is a fairly blank wall. I am not at the house this week and unfortunately can’t take pics but here are some (blurry) old ones - I hope you can get an idea of the space! This is about 10 years old and the irises and daylilies are just cuckoo now

  • 2 years ago

    Also I’m not wild about coral bells… i love solomons seal and have some already so I can use that! I also love and have tiarella in the back but it seems to grow so slowly for me

  • 2 years ago

    Check out upright Japanese plum yew for a height candidate. I should say I have very little experience but I see them mentioned here often when evergreen and full shade are the topic. I think you should be able to find them locally even maybe at 3ft already. Slow growers and can be pruned and reportedly very deer resistant. Maybe over quite some years if they’re successful they can be a nice evergreen wall at a height of your choosing.

  • 2 years ago

    They take sun too and would grow faster in sun so you could still begin with them in that spot closest the driveway. They seem, at least from what I see in pictures, to maintain that smaller diameter near the ground for a while so shouldn’t impede your perennials for quite some time and if ultimately they get crowded out it just means you your yews look great and you don’t need the perennials anymore. I think this would take quite some years though.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    It's been 25 years since I lived in New Haven so take my advice with a grain of salt LOL.

    First, please do yourself a favor and endeavor to remove all the ditch lilies. It will probably take a couple of years to get them all. I've found them to be too aggressive to play nicely in a mixed border.

    One of my neighbors has a border consisting of hellebores, ferns and liriope: simple and elegant. Since your border is beside the house, I think you could add dwarf nandina (no berries so not invasive). I recall pieris doing nicely in CT and that's a gorgeous shrub (if you can find a dwarf cultivar). Since you have a long growing season, I'd try to keep 2/3 of the plants in the border evergreen. Siberian iris has great foliage so clumps of that would be lovely.