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Benjamin Moore Advance over Satin Impervo?

My wonderful painter moved and I can't reach him...I have a new painter booked. My trim is Satin Impervo. Can Advance be put on top of it? Or anything? I can't deal with smelly fumes and lots of sanding (Satin Impervo was put on during our pandemic reno, when no one was living here). Thanks!

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  • last year

    What is the scope of your project? Changing trim color? From what to what?

    I'm pretty familiar with the Benjamin Moore current lines of paint, but not the older ones.

    Was the "Satin Impervo" oil based?

    Have you discussed any of this with your new painter?

  • last year

    Same color (white dove). Our home was renovated in 2020 (not sure if satin impervo was oil based in 2020?) The trim needs a refresh and will be painted since our walls need to be repainted (local BM store sold me new flat pale oak paint for the walls...they messed up and when it dried it was very different and everything looks splotchy. I can't make it look perfect anyway, because it was Natura, and that line has been discontinued. So we are repainting the walls and trim). I will discuss this with new painter, but aside from my former painter who I liked, I have not had the best experience with other painters. Hoping this next one is a keeper.

  • last year

    If I were you, I wouldn't want to use the Advance. It is an "oil modified" product, and in a white, tends to yellow slightly over time. Recommended dry time between coats is 16 hours, and 30 days for a full cure.

    My husband & I have completely renovated 3 homes. Our current home is 6K square feet.

    We've done all our own painting. (I'm OCD with the details!)

    The project has taken longer than planned, and midway we had to switch paint lines.

    (LONG story....)

    However, we're now using Benjamin Moore's Scuff X line, and love it!

    It comes in all tint bases, and sheens - matte, eggshell, satin & semi.

    Scuff-X® Interior Paint | Benjamin Moore

    It was originally intended for commercial use in schools, hospitals, etc.

    The matte is a beautiful finish for walls, but still easy if any cleaning or touch up is needed.

    (We have 16 grandchildren, so stuff happens.) For trim, we use the satin sheen.

    If the Satin Impervo was an oil base paint, your painter will need to sand and/or use a bonding primer. And if not, it will probably need some sanding anyway.

    There is also a product called "Willbond", but IIRC, it has a pretty strong smell.

    IMO, the Scuff X has no odor whatsoever. Recoat time is maybe 2 hours (in the right temp & humidity.) Full cure in 2 weeks.

  • last year

    Thanks for the advice! I can't deal with a dusty house right now. Does the bonding primer off gass or is it low VOC?

  • last year

    The Wil-bond is flammable, so NOT low VOC. There's also bonding primers - we almost always use InsulX - STIX (owned by Benjamin Moore).

    Will your painter be brushing or spraying the trim?

  • last year

    I assume painting the trim, since we are not moving out and I need this to be as painless as possible, especially with an elderly pet in the house. We sprayed specialty trim in our house during the reno, and it's gorgous. But for the basic wall trim and the doors, I just need a refresh that gets done before the holidays. For the trim, I would love to just add a coat or do touch-ups. But when I saw in my notes that satin impervo was used, I was like, uh oh. I'll have my painter test it to make sure it's oil. If it's water based, we'll just do a water based semi gloss over the current trim.

  • last year

    I put Advance over oil-based Impervo a couple of years ago with a primer in between but no sanding (lead-based paint under all that!)--I'll check to see what primer it was, but it was recommended by our BM store for that particular purpose. We've been happy with the Advance performance in general compared to Satin Impervo and Aura, and haven't had yellowing with the whites.

    I will say that oil-based Satin Impervo touches up beautifully with more oil-based Impervo if you can get it. With water-based on water-based you have to do a lot more work to blend it in, in my experience. The oil-based levels out nicely without much effort. Unfortunately the oil-based version is no longer available in our state, though.

  • last year

    " I just need a refresh that gets done before the holidays. For the trim, I would love to just add a coat or do touch-ups "


    Still needs the prep work (sanding and cleaning) for thee new paint to adhere properly.

  • last year

    Thanks. We decided to just have the walls painted, and just touch ups on the trim (my painter can get a hold of satin impervo).

  • last year

    Also, if the trim is just grungy versus actually chipped, all three of these paints clean up really well with soap and water or with a little vinegar spray.

  • last year

    I will try that. A lot of scuff marks. Very few dings. Overall in good shape...I just want it to look as fresh as possible after the walls are painted.