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How to Recover Very Old Roses

I have some rose bushes that are probably over 40 years old, with a lot of old wood. What would be the best strategy for trying to get these to recover. I am thinking I should cut all of the old wood down to the ground, and hope for new stems to emerge. Some of these plants are sending up new stems regularly, so getting rid of all of the old wood on those plants might be an easier decision. The one plant I am showing photos of here has only two old woody stems, and they are just never going to thrive.



Comments (7)

  • 3 months ago

    A radical cut down is the best way to encourage fresh growth from the base and a bushier shape, so I would go for it and cross your fingers. A sprinkling of alfalfa pellets around them and then mulching on top with fresh compost should give them an energy boost to bounce back with new growth.

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked NollieSpainZ9
  • 3 months ago
    last modified: 3 months ago

    During years of drought, I kept old hybrid teas alive with the barest amount of water. When restrictions on water usage were removed, I tripled the amount of water and doubled the amount of organic fertilizer. Results were amazing - green leafy roses with thick stems over 8 feet high with dozens of good size blossoms. Water makes a huge difference. Lavish amounts of compost applied after January pruning and in mid summer enriches the old soil.


    Advice from a master gardener in the area (southern California). was very helpful during heat waves and Santa Ana winds, as was the practical advice in the superb book "Showing Good Roses" by Bob Martin.

    https://www.abebooks.com/9780971013209/Showing-good-roses-complete-exhibitors-0971013209/plp

    You may want to build a watering basin (with walls of good new dirt from the garden center) around each old rose, then fill it with an inch of water once a week as well as running your drip irrigation system. Or adjust the number of drippers to get far more water on the roses than on neighboring succulents.

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked apple_pie_order
  • 3 months ago

    @NollieSpainZ9 I think I will go for it. You prefer to use an organic material like worm droppings as your compost? Honestly, during the Summer I found that a pure nitrogen fertilizer like Blood Meal was rocket fuel for roses.

  • 3 months ago

    @apple_pie_order What about building a small border wall around the edge with stone and just filling with a few inches of mulch? That should be enough to preserve the water they already get.

  • 3 months ago

    I have long since thrown timidity to the wind and adopted a kill or cure attitude to roses. There are so many gorgeous roses out there just waiting to take the place of a lanky, poor performer!


    I am no spray but will use any organic material I can get my hands on - alfalfa, seaweed, fish emulsion, leaf mould etc. My dogs are way too fond of digging up and eating blood and bonemeal so I avoid that, but whatever works for you. Funny you should mention worm castings as I only recently discovered a source of really excellent stuff. The compost I use is a good quality ericaceous mix, which helps to buffer my alkaline soil

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked NollieSpainZ9
  • 3 months ago
    last modified: 3 months ago

    A nice dirt (mud pie) and stone border wall could hold water in a basin. Plain stones will leak water. I usually mulch with compost that's essential to get wet to do any good for the soil and plant. Dry mulch will certainly slow down evaporation from the soil underneath.


    Please post an update when you are ready, maybe in a few months after new growth appears.

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked apple_pie_order
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