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dish soap on MARBLE?

11 months ago

Hello! Is it fine to use dish soap to clean marble countertops and showers?


I have a sensitivity to many ‘traditional’ products, so I’ve been using Seventh Generation. For example, if I’m in the same room as palmolive, I get a headache.


I’ll share the ingreidents bellow. Also, I’ll share two others that I’ve been considering and would love any guidance.


Bonus question: how often should I be re-sealing it? THX


SEVENTH GENERATION

water / eau, sodium lauryl sulfate (plant-derived cleaning agent, lauramine oxide (plant-based cleaning agent, glycerin (plant-derived foam stabilizer, decyl glucoside (plant-derived cleaning agent, magnesium chloride (mineral-based viscosity modifier, citric acid (plant-derived pH adjuster, benzisothiazolinone (synthetic preservative, methylisothiazolinone (synthetic preservative.



HOMECOURT

(just because it smells nice)

Water (aqua), Sodium C14-16 Olefin Sulfonate, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Cocamide DIPA , Functionalized Alkyl Polyglucoside, Glycerin, Caprylhydroxamic Acid, Benzyl Alcohol, Polyquaternium-10, Trisodium Ethylenediamine Disuccinate, Erythritol, Hibiscus Sabdariffa Fruit Extract, Caprylyl/Capryl Glucoside, Diisopropyl Adipate, Triethyl Citrate, Fragrance, Citric Acid *May contain fragrance allergens


DIRTY LABS

(probably more effective than Seventh Generation)

Aqua (Water), Lauryl glucoside, Coco-Glucoside, Glycerin, Cocamidopropyl hydroxysultaine, Capryloyl/Capryl methyl glucamide, Coconut acid, Sodium citrate, Sodium chloride, Amylase, Protease, Potassium hydroxide, Citric acid, Lipase, Phenoxyethanol, Oryza sativa (rice) extract.


Open to any suggestions or alternatives.

Comments (6)

  • PRO
    11 months ago
    last modified: 11 months ago

    Anything acidic will etch marble. Etching is removing the top surface of the stone. Permanantly. You need a pH neutral tile and stone cleaner. ZEP makes a concentrate that is easily and widely found. Stone care companies do also, but at double the price.

    Beth Garden thanked Minardi
  • 11 months ago
    last modified: 11 months ago

    So, @clt3, I think I’m learning from you that the ingredients are not the most important thing and it’s if it’s ph neutral? if that is the case, I’ll be empowered to search for various other producs in the future . meaning, if it’s ph neutral, it might be ok to have a little citric acid?

    EDIT:

    i just put homecourt ingredients in perplexity and it didn’t tell me it was ph neutral. and then I asked if the product itself is, and it said it’s unknown but likely ?

    can you teach me how you found this.


    EDIT 2

    I found this that made them seem equal, but I’m sure you found something that made homecourt stand out. sorry to be a pain but wanting to learn so I can do this on my own :)


    “Here is the pH information for the three dish soaps:

    • Homecourt Dish Soap: While the exact pH is not explicitly listed, it is described as skin-safe and gentle with plant-derived surfactants and glycerin for hydration. Such formulations generally aim to be near pH neutral or mildly alkaline (around pH 7 to 8), suitable for sensitive skin .

    • Seventh Generation Dish Soap: Public sources indicate that many Seventh Generation dish soaps are formulated to be pH balanced or close to neutral, designed for sensitive skin and eco-friendly use. This generally means their pH falls near 7 (general industry knowledge applied).

    • Dirty Labs Dish Soap: pH specifics for Dirty Labs dish soap are less commonly published online. However, many specialty or “clean” dish soaps like Dirty Labs aim for skin-safe, mild formulas that are close to neutral pH or only mildly alkaline to avoid irritation.

    Overall, Homecourt, Seventh Generation, and Dirty Labs dish soaps are likely formulated to be approximately pH neutral or mildly alkaline, designed for gentle use and skin safety rather than strongly acidic or alkaline. None are known to be strongly acidic or harsh on skin”

  • 11 months ago
    last modified: 11 months ago

    Honestly, not an expert or chemist, I just put in my search bar is Homecourt pH neutral. I have marble counters in my bathroom and just bought a marble safe cleaner at the hardware store. I open and smell every personal care product, so if I were you I’d do the same with a stone safe cleaner. Or you could email the manufacturers and ask if they’re pH neutral. I do know from experience that acids are very damaging.

    Beth Garden thanked clt3
  • PRO
    11 months ago

    The other issue is that any oils or glycerin will stain the stone, or leave a sticky residue if it's sealed well enough to not penetrate. Sealing the stone doesn't always prevent stains from soaking into the stone. It doesn't waterproof it. It just fill some of the pores and slows down liquid penetration, giving you time to wipe it up. Sealer will not do a thing for etching. Sealer isn't a plastic film over it. If acids like soda or lime juice touch marble, it's etched, sealed or not. That's a physical chemical change in the stone.

  • 11 months ago

    The recommendation for cleaning marble is mild dish soap in water with a microfiber cloth. I think you’re overthinking this. Seventh generation is so mild it barely cleans dishes. It ought to be fine.